VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.6.0] [JDOR]

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Elhemeer

Elhemeer

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Brannon said:
And usually dreams are #1 very hard to target and #2 have a time limit of roughly 2 or 3 hours a night in the deepest phase of sleep. And that is the combined time btw, the single sections range from "a few seconds" up to "roughly 10 minutes". In "normal" human brains that means a person does not dream once but dozens of times a night. We only remember one of the dreams.
Since before the "scandal" hit he was seen as a more or less normally working dude it is ... let's say unlikely that he could vanish for 2 or 3 days at a time to hop into a coma or something like that.

Meaning he saw some things, but was "forced" to invent details he did not see.
Like a submissive slut assistant ...
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I got the impression that the dreamer that writes the movies sees someone's life play out ... just always someone from another universe. I may be remembering that wrong though.
 
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Elhemeer said:
I got the impression that the dreamer that writes the movies sees someone's life play out ... just always someone from another universe. I may be remembering that wrong though.
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The studio has dozens of movies thanks to that dreamer.
Meaning he visited multiple people over the time.
But as said it is not easy to direct dreams, his brain needed "to fill in the gaps" many times and that is why some details are plain wrong on those movies.
But since nobody else (to his knowledge) can see that parallel universe it is fine.
 
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Brannon said:
The studio has dozens of movies thanks to that dreamer.
Meaning he visited multiple people over the time.
But as said it is not easy to direct dreams, his brain needed "to fill in the gaps" many times and that is why some details are plain wrong on those movies.
But since nobody else (to his knowledge) can see that parallel universe it is fine.
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I feel like one of us is remembering the story wrong ... or we're both doing the same thing -- that is, giving our take on what we think is happening. But you seem to be taking it further than the game gives information about, unless I've completely forgot some in-game explanation.

I don't remember any kind of detail on how the dreamer's power works or how he writes the scripts. Just that he dreams about alternate realities with fascinating stories and he turns them into movies (that happen to closely match AVNs many people that play this game like). I don't remember how much he sees, how long it takes for him to publish a script, what the stories even are (other than the little we got about The Assistant). But it seems clear he's not seeing 1:1 timelines ... whether he sees an entire story overnight, over a week, over a month ... it'd have to take less time to see than actual time passing in the game's world. For all we know, he gets a full world dump every night and he has to spend his days sorting through the information to find the stories he makes (which would imply he doesn't forget much, if anything).

As for what details are wrong, have we got any details about any of the movies? If you're talking about the fact that the characters on the posters don't match the games they're from, that's 'cause the posters are of the actors playing the parts (something I found very disturbing at first, I can tell you.)

Anyway, I may go find that scene and replay it to see if there's something I forgot (very likely, even if I'm right. I definitely wouldn't remember much about the dreams if I had that ability ... and my current brain), but for now I think I've satisfied the itch your little word salad created in me. It was a fun dive.
 
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Brannon said:
The studio has dozens of movies thanks to that dreamer.
Meaning he visited multiple people over the time.
But as said it is not easy to direct dreams, his brain needed "to fill in the gaps" many times and that is why some details are plain wrong on those movies.
But since nobody else (to his knowledge) can see that parallel universe it is fine.
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Elhemeer said:
I feel like one of us is remembering the story wrong ... or we're both doing the same thing -- that is, giving our take on what we think is happening. But you seem to be taking it further than the game gives information about, unless I've completely forgot some in-game explanation.

I don't remember any kind of detail on how the dreamer's power works or how he writes the scripts. Just that he dreams about alternate realities with fascinating stories and he turns them into movies (that happen to closely match AVNs many people that play this game like). I don't remember how much he sees, how long it takes for him to publish a script, what the stories even are (other than the little we got about The Assistant). But it seems clear he's not seeing 1:1 timelines ... whether he sees an entire story overnight, over a week, over a month ... it'd have to take less time to see than actual time passing in the game's world. For all we know, he gets a full world dump every night and he has to spend his days sorting through the information to find the stories he makes (which would imply he doesn't forget much, if anything).

As for what details are wrong, have we got any details about any of the movies? If you're talking about the fact that the characters on the posters don't match the games they're from, that's 'cause the posters are of the actors playing the parts (something I found very disturbing at first, I can tell you.)

Anyway, I may go find that scene and replay it to see if there's something I forgot (very likely, even if I'm right. I definitely wouldn't remember much about the dreams if I had that ability ... and my current brain), but for now I think I've satisfied the itch your little word salad created in me. It was a fun dive.
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I don't think we're given tons of details here, since in the big picture it's mostly just a fun gag/cameo.

I will point out though that powers can make dreams behave differently, based on Evelyn. She lucidly sees and remembers a full day for someone else each time she sleeps, so she's on average probably perceiving 16 hours of "dream" time in a typical night. Based on this, I think its safe to assume that "multiverse dream" guy doesn't have to necessarily have dreams that conform to normal dream rules.
 
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Elhemeer said:
I feel like one of us is remembering the story wrong ... or we're both doing the same thing -- that is, giving our take on what we think is happening. But you seem to be taking it further than the game gives information about, unless I've completely forgot some in-game explanation.

I don't remember any kind of detail on how the dreamer's power works or how he writes the scripts. Just that he dreams about alternate realities with fascinating stories and he turns them into movies (that happen to closely match AVNs many people that play this game like). I don't remember how much he sees, how long it takes for him to publish a script, what the stories even are (other than the little we got about The Assistant). But it seems clear he's not seeing 1:1 timelines ... whether he sees an entire story overnight, over a week, over a month ... it'd have to take less time to see than actual time passing in the game's world. For all we know, he gets a full world dump every night and he has to spend his days sorting through the information to find the stories he makes (which would imply he doesn't forget much, if anything).

As for what details are wrong, have we got any details about any of the movies? If you're talking about the fact that the characters on the posters don't match the games they're from, that's 'cause the posters are of the actors playing the parts (something I found very disturbing at first, I can tell you.)

Anyway, I may go find that scene and replay it to see if there's something I forgot (very likely, even if I'm right. I definitely wouldn't remember much about the dreams if I had that ability ... and my current brain), but for now I think I've satisfied the itch your little word salad created in me. It was a fun dive.
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He was employed as a writer before the studio even knew about his power, meaning he was working "normally" before. And script writing usually is a 9-5 job ...

And the differences are for instance that the main character in "The Assistant" is the boss, in the movie the main character is the submissive and slutty assistant.

Meaning either he misremembered things or the studio made changes to appease an actor.
 
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Elhemeer said:
I got the impression that the dreamer that writes the movies sees someone's life play out ... just always someone from another universe. I may be remembering that wrong though.
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Rehwyn said:
I don't think we're given tons of details here, since in the big picture it's mostly just a fun gag/cameo.

I will point out though that powers can make dreams behave differently, based on Evelyn. She lucidly sees and remembers a full day for someone else each time she sleeps, so she's on average probably perceiving 16 hours of "dream" time in a typical night. Based on this, I think its safe to assume that "multiverse dream" guy doesn't have to necessarily have dreams that conform to normal dream rules.
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INB4 there's a cameo moment where MC is watching TV and the hero rescues BOTH girls from the burning house :HideThePain:
 
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Jace_Herondale said:
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You think this is an error or was someone watching them?
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Basically Amber was a voyeur even before the awakening of her power and now she has the power every voyeur has the dream of having. Most of the time she waits and slips through a door after a person. Why the door was opened by her this time ... I guess she figured that since she told MC about that he knows (or is supposed to know ...) if he sees the door moving or not.
Since Amber also has an exhibitionist mindset and nobody can see her that is likely very frustrating at the same time.

I wouldn't be surprised if her session with Moonsong is successful and she finds herself fully nude in the presence of her idol crush.
In fact I pretty much expect that.




On an unrelated note I wouldn't be surprised either to learn that the "powerless teacher" that is running the prostitution ring at school is revealed to have the same suggestion mindcontrol Moonsong talked about.
 
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