VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.6.0] [JDOR]

[blkcrow20]

Finished my first play through. Brilliant game.

All the characters are incredibly well written and complex. Some I love, some I hate, and some I'm really conflicted on because of what happens just before the end of current content.

The world and it's building is also very well done and fairly well thought out.

My only issue with the game is, thus far, all the girl with hairy pussys are side girls. None of the main girls have a hairy pussy.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Nah, Fraser yelling NETORARE was 100% the dev trolling a certain group of people that would think dancing is NTR

 

[JJJ84]

Following is an excerpt of (while very slightly edited) message that I DMed Jacquesdor, but I thought it would make an interesting thing to ponder/discuss on the game's thread;


With that whole end of the episode convo between Parker & Naveen, I do hope the whole "Phermone" aspect of MC's powers influencing the girls doesn't end up something like mind control, where every girl just literally falls for the MC.
I think Sisterhood having the free will of them deciding for themselves whether they like the MC or not is quite important for their characterization, rather than them just being under thrall of MC's power/phermones.

Evelyn and Amber loved MC even before his powers manifested, so there's no question of their love.
But regarding the rest (like Moonsong, Tanya, Lady Steel and rest of Sisterhood and other LIs he gains since he manifested), do they genuinely love and feel attracted to MC because of their own free will or because his power compels them to?

This might be a good inner dilemma for MC to have and for the dev to possibly experiment in the future.

It's like that question asked for Witcher 3 between Geralt & Yennefer with their quest

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whether Yen wanted to find out their love was still genuine or not or whether it was just cause of the Djinn's powers.

Have our MC be in doubt whether the girls genuinely likes him or whether it's just his powers (actually LIs can have such doubts too).
The whole fear of "Is what we have real?" just would add that whole extra characterization layer (and.......... possibly more Moonsong experiments? )

 

[Rehwyn]

Following is an excerpt of (while very slightly edited) message that I DMed Jacquesdor, but I thought it would make an interesting thing to ponder/discuss on the game's thread;


With that whole end of the episode convo between Parker & Naveen, I do hope the whole "Phermone" aspect of MC's powers influencing the girls doesn't end up something like mind control, where every girl just literally falls for the MC.
I think Sisterhood having the free will of them deciding for themselves whether they like the MC or not is quite important for their characterization, rather than them just being under thrall of MC's power/phermones.

Evelyn and Amber loved MC even before his powers manifested, so there's no question of their love.
But regarding the rest (like Moonsong, Tanya, Lady Steel and rest of Sisterhood and other LIs he gains since he manifested), do they genuinely love and feel attracted to MC because of their own free will or because his power compels them to?

This might be a good inner dilemma for MC to have and for the dev to possibly experiment in the future.

It's like that question asked for Witcher 3 between Geralt & Yennefer with their quest

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whether Yen wanted to find out their love was still genuine or not or whether it was just cause of the Djinn's powers.

Have our MC be in doubt whether the girls genuinely likes him or whether it's just his powers (actually LIs can have such doubts too).
The whole fear of "Is what we have real?" just would add that whole extra characterization layer (and.......... possibly more Moonsong experiments? )

I got the impression with the way they described it that the "pheromone" effect was less about making LIs attracted to him and more about lowing their inhibitions. A subtle difference to be sure, but it's the difference between causing attraction vs making LIs more likely to follow up on an organic attraction. There was some discussion that some other aspects of his power might be mildly addictive though.

I suspect eventually MC will learn about this and have some inner drama as you suggested where he has to grapple with whether the LIs like him for who he is or just because of his power.

 

[Canto Forte]

False pretense for cheap nonsensical drama in this thread is cheap and shallow.
Here is why:

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Parker is all contradictions and the worst parent yet:

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This game gives all the girls to a drug rapist who gets them high on his drug induced orgasms to the point they are horny, copliant and slurring their voices and dumbed down - effective date rape drug - this is what this game canonically already is doing to all your girls - so MC is the least of your problems, this game drug rapes the minds and bodies of the girls because this dev hates the characters and the players more than anything in this world.

I have zero interest in my MC brainwashing and effectively raping tons of women. So I do care about that stuff too...

MC is totally oblivious to any effect he might have on the girls, as all the girls diss him constantly, while the orgasm guy is a sudden total favourite and chosen over MC precisely as his effect is a total date rape reaction of them becoming dumb sluts.

what in the game suggest to you Parker wants to strip the MC of his powers? Or that she has been treating the MC as a test subject?

The fact she seems to think that MC has this power to make her love her own son, like a mother should loathe her daughter and hate her son or something.
In genuine female fashion, Parker is accusing MC for her sluttyness and her getting off on anybody she sees or hears all the time.
Gaslighting the boy for her very womanly obsessions and her total lack of restraint, this is a staple of antagonistic writing in these games.

I think Parker knows the potential threat that MTF and/or the big bad (might be the same thing) poses to MC and is working behind the scenes within the system to help prepare him for an inevitable confrontation with them.

This is yet another glaring issue with the writing in this game:
MC is not integrating with the sisters, he is not bonding or even getting along with them; he is just another boy toy for Moonsong, the sister all the others see as a slut, the beef cake she sometimes lends to her sisters - MC should be part of the team, part of the Guardians of the Globe, not part of the Boys, like this game is pushing Parker and MC to resemble a Heughie-Butcher duo that would be shuehorned into the plot. Parker is a chemist who is absolutely shit at using chemical compounds to alleviate her own afflictions, let alone MC and everybody else, so there is little competence in this game and a lot of representation and girl bossing.

 

[S1nsational]

With that whole end of the episode convo between Parker & Naveen

To be honest, I kinda admire you for caring that much about that aspect of that scene.

I have zero interest in my MC brainwashing and effectively raping tons of women. So I do care about that stuff too...

however, that said, my main take away from that conversation is that Parker is most likely a traitor and can't be trusted. But then again, she has the main girl marker, so how likely is it that she's actually a bad guy?

It's just have the fact that we seem to have been a test subject for her the entire time since out childhood. And, what's arguably worse, is that she seems to have plans to cure us, stripping us of all out powers, and using that breakthrough to forcefully strip everyone of their powers!!

What would be a really cool twist would be if she's actually trying to create something that will actually counter the original vaccine. Give powers to people who were forced to get the vaccine, or to the children of people who got the vaccine one way or the other.

Between the atrocities of the monstrous MTF and this doge stuff with the creator of the vaccine I'm more than eager to become this worlds Magneto.

 

[Hungover00]

however, that said, my main take away from that conversation is that Parker is most likely a traitor and can't be trusted. But then again, she has the main girl marker, so how likely is it that she's actually a bad guy?

Traitor to who or what?

I do agree that Parker has a hidden agenda, and likely represents a secret faction, but also that she likely isn't a straight up bad guy. Being some kind of rebel or subversive element seems likely, especially as we see the government goes straight evil frequently. And while she obviously pumps the MC for information after he spends time with the Sisterhood, nothing about her actions seem malevolent (though the possibility exists, technically. Just doesn't seem probable).

I may be forgetting, but what in the game suggest to you Parker wants to strip the MC of his powers? Or that she has been treating the MC as a test subject?

 

[Rehwyn]

To be honest, I kinda admire you for caring that much about that aspect of that scene.

I have zero interest in my MC brainwashing and effectively raping tons of women. So I do care about that stuff too...

however, that said, my main take away from that conversation is that Parker is most likely a traitor and can't be trusted. But then again, she has the main girl marker, so how likely is it that she's actually a bad guy?

It's just have the fact that we seem to have been a test subject for her the entire time since out childhood. And, what's arguably worse, is that she seems to have plans to cure us, stripping us of all out powers, and using that breakthrough to forcefully strip everyone of their powers!!

What would be a really cool twist would be if she's actually trying to create something that will actually counter the original vaccine. Give powers to people who were forced to get the vaccine, or to the children of people who got the vaccine one way or the other.

Between the atrocities of the monstrous MTF and this doge stuff with the creator of the vaccine I'm more than eager to become this worlds Magneto.

Personally, I think Parker knows the potential threat that MTF and/or the big bad (might be the same thing) poses to MC and is working behind the scenes within the system to help prepare him for an inevitable confrontation with them.

 

[e6mill]

Personally, I think Parker knows the potential threat that MTF and/or the big bad (might be the same thing) poses to MC and is working behind the scenes within the system to help prepare him for an inevitable confrontation with them.

Not because of the MC. Her little story about the doc from Africa was quite telling. She doesn't like them & hopes MC will be a part of their downfall. I wouldn't say she'd "use him" for it - since she's willing to fall in love with him - and even have HER DAUGHTER fall in love with him - to get there... There's a bit of speculation to this, but it all adds up.

 

[Rehwyn]

Not because of the MC. Her little story about the doc from Africa was quite telling. She doesn't like them & hopes MC will be a part of their downfall. I wouldn't say she'd "use him" for it - since she's willing to fall in love with him - and even have HER DAUGHTER fall in love with him - to get there... There's a bit of speculation to this, but it all adds up.

Probably also a motive, but good characters can having complex, multi-faceted motives. So it doesn't rule out that part of her actions are intended for MC's benefit.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

however, that said, my main take away from that conversation is that Parker is most likely a traitor and can't be trusted. But then again, she has the main girl marker, so how likely is it that she's actually a bad guy?

I still stand by my first initial opinion: no matter how perverted she is, no matter how lustful she is for others and no matter how hidden manipulation she is, I believe that she cares about MC more than anyone!

I got the impression that she was just hiding Mc away from everyone and from MTF related shit and not letting him face danger...
She did nothing to be considered a traitor for Mc, the most she can be a dangerous figure for is against the sisterhood or a villain and be a mole against MTF, but she is trying to protect Mc and her daughter in her own way. IMO

 

[TigerWolfe]

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This woman has a terrible bush to tits ratio.

 

[e6mill]

What do you wanna bet that MC was designed in some way by his conveniently dead parents (who were Parker's besties supposedly so she likely knows of it) to take down the MTF and/or end the superflu?

 

[S1nsational]

What do you wanna bet that MC was designed in some way by his conveniently dead parents (who were Parker's besties supposedly so she likely knows of it) to take down the MTF and/or end the superflu?

100%

That's why I was saying he was a test subject the entire time.

A generous interpretation would be like I said earlier and he's trying to undo the vaccine. The same vaccine that was forced on the healer kid which caused him to take his own life.

 

[snakeplisskin]

This woman has a terrible bush to tits ratio.

I was looking for someone with bigger tits to post, but they all are clean shaven or trimmed. While her tits are smaller than i would like, her bush is beautiful.

Edit didn't want to double post. I am surprised more people arent going nuts over Parker admitting she was collecting sperm samples from the MC . And the only reason she stopped was he is now to sexually active for her to get a chance. How many of his " Parker sex dreams" are actually real and just her collecting samples.

 

[Jericho85]

I still stand by my first initial opinion: no matter how perverted she is, no matter how lustful she is for others and no matter how hidden manipulation she is, I believe that she cares about MC more than anyone!

I got the impression that she was just hiding Mc away from everyone and from MTF related shit and not letting him face danger...
She did nothing to be considered a traitor for Mc, the most she can be a dangerous figure for is against the sisterhood or a villain and be a mole against MTF, but she is trying to protect Mc and her daughter in her own way. IMO

These are my thoughts too. She obviously has some degree of influence and resources in her position, but I think she's acting primarily with the welfare of MC, Riley, and their friends in mind. I don't really see anything indicating that Parker has malicious motives.

Judging by her flip out at MC, she's definitely confirmed to be a legit nymphomaniac though and she's beginning to seem pretty self-conscious about it around MC. Not saying that flippantly, I think that kind of hyper-sexuality can make her life a constant struggle for self-control and she's finding it increasingly difficult to maintain control around MC.

All in all, I thought both Parker's blowup at MC and the scene with Naveen at the end were both interesting, but I got zero "villian" vibes from it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Parker is too obvious to be sus. The one who betrays MC must be completely unexpected to create an impression and shock among the audience - that's how good writing works.
She certainly has hidden agenda as shown by ending 0.6 and I can't trust her 100% until her motives become clearer, but I don't think she's the antagonist here.

 

[Elduriel]

Parker is too obvious to be sus. The one who betrays MC must be completely unexpected to create an impression and shock among the audience - that's how good writing works.
She certainly has hidden agenda as shown by ending 0.6 and I can't trust her 100% until her motives become clearer, but I don't think she's the antagonist here.

yeah she is more like playing the long game here, not gonna say I'm liking it, but she ain't the big bad here

 

[MAGO-DAG]

These are my thoughts too. She obviously has some degree of influence and resources in her position, but I think she's acting primarily with the welfare of MC, Riley, and their friends in mind. I don't really see anything indicating that Parker has malicious motives.

Judging by her flip out at MC, she's definitely confirmed to be a legit nymphomaniac though and she's beginning to seem pretty self-conscious about it around MC. Not saying that flippantly, I think that kind of hyper-sexuality can make her life a constant struggle for self-control and she's finding it increasingly difficult to maintain control around MC.

All in all, I thought both Parker's blowup at MC and the scene at the end with Naveen at the end were both interesting, but I got zero "villian" vibes from it.

She certainly has hidden agenda as shown by ending 0.6 and I can't trust her 100% until her motives become clearer, but I don't think she's the antagonist here.

As say, every plot needs drama and intrigue, and we must commend Jacquesdor for his work.

I haven't played the update yet (there's too much game to play), but these are the plot twists that are most fun to play, we're simply made to think that Parker is the antagonist, but we're also trying to believe that she has a good reason and we've yet to fully flesh out her story...

hopefully we'll get a full update between Parker/Mc and their development future. this is the only game for me that besides the scene, I am now interested in the story in the style of tension

 

[JJJ84]

To be honest, I kinda admire you for caring that much about that aspect of that scene.

I have zero interest in my MC brainwashing and effectively raping tons of women. So I do care about that stuff too...

however, that said, my main take away from that conversation is that Parker is most likely a traitor and can't be trusted. But then again, she has the main girl marker, so how likely is it that she's actually a bad guy?

It's just have the fact that we seem to have been a test subject for her the entire time since out childhood. And, what's arguably worse, is that she seems to have plans to cure us, stripping us of all out powers, and using that breakthrough to forcefully strip everyone of their powers!!

What would be a really cool twist would be if she's actually trying to create something that will actually counter the original vaccine. Give powers to people who were forced to get the vaccine, or to the children of people who got the vaccine one way or the other.

Between the atrocities of the monstrous MTF and this doge stuff with the creator of the vaccine I'm more than eager to become this worlds Magneto.

So far, we only have seen 3 actually seen or mentioned characters who are supposed to be villains to MC;

1) the were-Tiger dude who attacked MC & Evelyn at the mart parking lot; dead now by the Sisterhood
2) Scarlet Shadow (not sure I have her name correct or completely wrong, been a while since she appeared lol) Ninja girl Super villain who sort of looks to be acting like a counterpart to Ghostraven.
3) Scarlet's Shadow's mistress - SS said her mistress has plans for MC.

If Parker is a villain, she could be SS's mistress I guess?
But I'm not so sure about that.

Sure she kept secrets from MC, but I've seen games until now of a parent/foster parent character keeping the child (MC) in the dark for their own good etc etc.
Not saying you're necessarily wrong, but there needs to be more evidence to convince me she's someone evil than just "she's keeping secrets and somehow connected to MC's superpowers origins."

But I guess time will tell.
MC is still only just starting out, and I'd say it's gonna be quite a while until he starts facing his supervillains.