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It looks very good at the origin, the models are much better with your style I see a lot of potential in your idea I hope to test your game when you have it ready
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To continue our discussion as per my post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/our-fate-a-new-family-v0-15-se-cedsense.7220/page-203#post-6389792
But I have to say I do like her face in the banner on the top of this thread!
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2021/08/1378240_Claire_Banner.png
That dreamy look has indeed the same feeling as the original!
I'll go through the files of the original to see if some scene matches your poses for comparison.
In the last picture, the differences are much less apparent than in the other picture. Except the eyebrows, which is one part of the original I disliked a bit, so no complaints there.
Your lighting and textures are obviously way better / more up-to-date.
https://f95zone.to/threads/our-fate-a-new-family-v0-15-se-cedsense.7220/page-203#post-6389792
With realistic, I meant that it seems that you have enlarged boobs and butt on your model, compared to the original. In my opinion, you have overdone it as little bit. The original model seems like a person you are more likely to meet in the real world, vs. a girl who is arguably prettier but less... plain? I hope I explain myself properly, I'm struggling a bit with finding the right words. What attracted me to the original model was that her shy and naive personality matched her slightly introverted, but still very pretty, looks.
But I have to say I do like her face in the banner on the top of this thread!
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2021/08/1378240_Claire_Banner.png
That dreamy look has indeed the same feeling as the original!
I'll go through the files of the original to see if some scene matches your poses for comparison.
In the last picture, the differences are much less apparent than in the other picture. Except the eyebrows, which is one part of the original I disliked a bit, so no complaints there.
Your lighting and textures are obviously way better / more up-to-date.
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Thank you!To continue our discussion as per my post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/our-fate-a-new-family-v0-15-se-cedsense.7220/page-203#post-6389792
With realistic, I meant that it seems that you have enlarged boobs and butt on your model, compared to the original. In my opinion, you have overdone it as little bit. The original model seems like a person you are more likely to meet in the real world, vs. a girl who is arguably prettier but less... plain? I hope I explain myself properly, I'm struggling a bit with finding the right words. What attracted me to the original model was that her shy and naive personality matched her slightly introverted, but still very pretty, looks.
But I have to say I do like her face in the banner on the top of this thread!
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2021/08/1378240_Claire_Banner.png
That dreamy look has indeed the same feeling as the original!
I'll go through the files of the original to see if some scene matches your poses for comparison. View attachment 1356424 View attachment 1356425 View attachment 1356426
In the last picture, the differences are much less apparent than in the other picture. Except the eyebrows, which is one part of the original I disliked a bit, so no complaints there.
Your lighting and textures are obviously way better / more up-to-date.
I also did this by myself, the thing is the light and the camera are very important in 3D renders (and irl) the "narrower" facial features might appear like that also because i'm using a portrait camera of 85mm (that's the focal lenght usually used in photoshoots for portraits) which you want to use for a game with a lot of face driven shots. Also the light plays a big role here because in the "remake" render i used multiple interior white lights with different angles and with the banner (quick) render i used two sources the hdri and a single "natural" light and that's what the dev of the original game used most of the time everything is just full lit from a single source.
Now, i'm still working on the characters as i said, assets are something i can't magically change because it would require a lot of time, the hair for example is close enough for me not to actually model the hair and transfer it to daz which will take a lot of time and effort. The outfit for the girl i'm also ok with it but i agree with the tshirt being too short maybe. The body is another thing i have to work more on, in terms of quality is way better than the original (you just saw a render with a single pose and clothes so wait to judge) but maybe the proportions are more instagram model like instead of the natural look of the original.
Today i will focus on all of this, i hope i can get more feedback when i post the new concept renders, cheers.
Excited that you're taking this on! The renders look great so far, and it's clear that they are much more realistic looking. I also like what you did with the body of the daughter, since I prefer the slimmer look.
In terms of suggestions, I'm not sure why but for some reason the daughter's eyes look somewhat cross-eyed to me. Another thing is more a matter or preference, but I think she would look better with a somewhat smaller nose bridge. The only other suggestion to perhaps make the design feel somewhat closer to the original (I know it won't ever be exactly the same, and that's fine) would be to brighten her eyes and hair a bit - maybe this would make her look less realistic, but I think a defining feature of the original daughter was her piercing green eyes and golden hair.
Other than that though she looks very pretty, especially in the photo in the header. I like that she looks a bit younger looking because the original character seemed older than she was supposed to be. Look forward to seeing more about how this progresses!
In terms of suggestions, I'm not sure why but for some reason the daughter's eyes look somewhat cross-eyed to me. Another thing is more a matter or preference, but I think she would look better with a somewhat smaller nose bridge. The only other suggestion to perhaps make the design feel somewhat closer to the original (I know it won't ever be exactly the same, and that's fine) would be to brighten her eyes and hair a bit - maybe this would make her look less realistic, but I think a defining feature of the original daughter was her piercing green eyes and golden hair.
Other than that though she looks very pretty, especially in the photo in the header. I like that she looks a bit younger looking because the original character seemed older than she was supposed to be. Look forward to seeing more about how this progresses!
Lookin good I'm pretty sure if the dev ever continued at some point he would use an upgrade over the outdated models.
And it's pretty cool that someone is willing to take an abandoned VN and see it through to an end i'm sure a lot of people who liked the original will appreciate that
A lot of VNs with huge potentials are abandoned but none ever gets picked up by someone else while the dev is missing from the picture for forever. I would really appreciate if someone picked up some of the VNs that i liked but were abandoned and give it somewhat similar story and an ending
So all being said Goodluck with the project will definitely try this again once you drop a new release.
And it's pretty cool that someone is willing to take an abandoned VN and see it through to an end i'm sure a lot of people who liked the original will appreciate that
A lot of VNs with huge potentials are abandoned but none ever gets picked up by someone else while the dev is missing from the picture for forever. I would really appreciate if someone picked up some of the VNs that i liked but were abandoned and give it somewhat similar story and an ending
So all being said Goodluck with the project will definitely try this again once you drop a new release.
Updated the main post with new pics of the changes you suggested.
I made the girl a little bit chonkier, thinner nose ridge, smaller mouth, thinner lips, arched the brows, greener eyes, wider chin, longer and slimmer face, brighter hair and a longer tshirt.
I also added some renders with a beach hdri to get the feeling of the new content since that's where the original game "ended".
Let me know what do you think! is it better, is it worse? what should i change?
Thanks!
I made the girl a little bit chonkier, thinner nose ridge, smaller mouth, thinner lips, arched the brows, greener eyes, wider chin, longer and slimmer face, brighter hair and a longer tshirt.
I also added some renders with a beach hdri to get the feeling of the new content since that's where the original game "ended".
Let me know what do you think! is it better, is it worse? what should i change?
Thanks!
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I think it so good, similar to original but more realistic than.
In terms of suggestions, about boob i think i like first version than.
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But what about writing? Original is so good coz it has best writing
It's actually good that i have so much to learn about the characters, their motivations, personality...So i just need to keep the ball rolling.
I will do my best but i'm also looking for people who are willing to help me with dialogs and such or just giving me feedback about my own writing.
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It is great that you are willing to continue the game... thank you for that.
I like very much your last version of the girl. She looks to me very close to the original one.
Some suggestions to make her look even closer (in my humble opinion)
- the split of her hair is slightly more on her right side in the original model (left side when looking at her...)
- when standing, her hair is always over her shoulders and falling in her back in the original model.
- It is difficult to put into words but there is some sadness in her eyes (what is called "puppy eyes" maybe) that I don't find back in your version (except a little in the banner)
I understand you want to take back the story where it ended. It would be nice if you could do some preview of her in her pink bikini
I'm really looking forward to the first release...
PS: Some pictures of her in her pink bikini from the preview of the release that was never released :
I like very much your last version of the girl. She looks to me very close to the original one.
Some suggestions to make her look even closer (in my humble opinion)
- the split of her hair is slightly more on her right side in the original model (left side when looking at her...)
- when standing, her hair is always over her shoulders and falling in her back in the original model.
- It is difficult to put into words but there is some sadness in her eyes (what is called "puppy eyes" maybe) that I don't find back in your version (except a little in the banner)
I understand you want to take back the story where it ended. It would be nice if you could do some preview of her in her pink bikini
I'm really looking forward to the first release...
PS: Some pictures of her in her pink bikini from the preview of the release that was never released :
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I think I actually like your first design for the daughter better Even if she didn't look the same as the original character, I think she looked better with the younger look and slimmer body. After all the changes her face looks much older (maybe too old?), and maybe too serious/stern looking? angular? not really sure. Not trying to insult your work btw! I just think it's not possible to make her look exactly like the original model, so perhaps better to focus on just getting her to look as good and realistic as possible - to me, the newer model looks more like a mom than daughter
Even if she didn't look the same as the original character, I think she looked better with the younger look and slimmer body. After all the changes her face looks much older (maybe too old?), and maybe too serious/stern looking? angular? not really sure. Not trying to insult your work btw! I just think it's not possible to make her look exactly like the original model, so perhaps better to focus on just getting her to look as good and realistic as possible - to me, the newer model looks more like a mom than daughterYes it's the big "doe eyes," that's definitely a big part of her innocent look that we loved
I would say the new design is really, really close to the original the only difference right now is the eyes of the later being narrower. The thing is that's how old she looks like originally, that's why i made her "younger" in the first place, some people like the character looking the same as the original and others (like you) prefer a different younger version, the thing is i'm not finished with the design so the more people willing to give me feedback the better i can please more of you. (Also i don't think she looks that old lol, i would say 20, she just have older facial features, long face and wide chin)I think I actually like your first design for the daughter better
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Thank you, i didn't remember about those pics!It is great that you are willing to continue the game... thank you for that.
I like very much your last version of the girl. She looks to me very close to the original one.
Some suggestions to make her look even closer (in my humble opinion)
- the split of her hair is slightly more on her right side in the original model (left side when looking at her...)
- when standing, her hair is always over her shoulders and falling in her back in the original model.
- It is difficult to put into words but there is some sadness in her eyes (what is called "puppy eyes" maybe) that I don't find back in your version (except a little in the banner)
I understand you want to take back the story where it ended. It would be nice if you could do some preview of her in her pink bikini
I'm really looking forward to the first release...
PS: Some pictures of her in her pink bikini from the preview of the release that was never released :
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-The split hair is a feature i can't change, is just part of the asset, maybe i could try editing the mesh, who knows.
-I don't like the hair going behind, looks pretty bad to be honest and again the asset i'm using doesn't have the morphs for that, maybe could make them myself.
-That's because the banner one uses a expression with a little bit of wondering eyes, that's something a lot of people don't understand it seems, expressions can change the face of the model A LOT that also happens IRL but in DAZ even more just because how the morphs work.
PS: Just added some bikini renders, i had to work on it anyways.
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OMG this is real?? V19XX thank you so much for your efforts, Yhis game story, was the best ever!!