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One specific point I'd like to request is just to make sure I understand what you're saying—could you show me an example of skin that turned out really that bad?
Sure, I had some saves, but dont expect me to bulldoze render)
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And there is a lot of the same when characters hit direct light of the sun. And found save with Norah monstruous nose I mentioned.
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Like really, change skin color to green and add warts, and you get a stereotypical disney witch)

considering your comment about wanting your time back — well, I wouldn’t count on that. Honestly, if you didn’t enjoy the experience, it might have been better to keep some of those harsher opinions to yourself. I’m sorry if this sounds blunt, but sometimes the lack of appreciation can be frustrating. It's a free release, made with a lot of effort and passion, and while feedback is always welcome, it's good to remember that no one is forced to play.
I wasn't serious about that, I just expressed in a joking manner that I regretted my spent time on the game, nothing more.
I understand your concerns about the MC being naive and too altruistic. However, this is a deliberate narrative choice. The MC is an 18-year-old who spent his entire life in an orphanage. He is resilient, but his maturity is still a work in progress. His development arc is key to the story — he won’t be a “badass” from the start, and it will take time for him to grow into someone more self-assured.
Attention! long read!)

I'm not telling about making MC a true gigachad from the beginning, who knows everything and makes only right choices just like that; it would be boring too. I'm not arguing with that. I'm talking about portraying his naive and gullible nature as something that is already a good trait, which, in general, makes things only better, already appealing to the women around him and that there are no negative consequences of being a naive good boy in a harsh adult world.

Example: Juliana arc.

MC meets her only a few times, has a few talks, and makes her acquaintance. After that he goes to the gym to train with her, goes to the changing room where another gym worker tries to seduce him to work with her instead of Juliana. And after that shit hits the fan, a sudden fight between two girls, MC accidentally, but still gets punched in the face, then weak apologies and sudden soul opening from her to MC about how bad things work in her life. What goes from it? MC by himself proposes unconditional help for a pretty serious problem to yesterday's stranger. Who is she for him? What does he know about her? On what conditions can he trust her? It's only the player who knows that she is actually a good person in need, who deserves help and doesn't try to scam him or something, and in the end, MC 100% will get her pussy for all the troubles. But MC by himself don't know shit about her and situation in general. She is practically no one for him, and there is nothing more to it. And MC's only way to woo her in your story is to blindly propose a complete for him stranger to deal with her personal serious problem, from whom in the last 15 minutes he saw only a shitstorm of fucked-up events without any credibility behind her words that things really as she tells him.

How do people say "criticize? Then propose your solution" or something like that.
So, my proposition is to picture MC behavior and development in this way.

Let's go way back to the beginning. MC leaves the orphanage where he spent a peaceful and oversheltered childhood. He came to the town with his friendly and naive look at things and faith in a better life. Soon after arrival, some cute girl approaches him and asks him for help with something with big, watering eyes, MC jump to help without any questions and she lures him into a dark alley where he got mugged and beaten up by her friends. MC shocked about what happeed, how people can be so deceiving and evil and blah blah, and with time he slowly realize that the world can be very bad and hurtful place for ignorant and naive people like him and that not everyone is by default nice and decent people who deserve your help.

After some time he meets Juliana, and she tries to recruit him to work out with her in the gym, like it was in the story. He agrees cautiously because he doesn't trust strangers easily anymore, but in the end agrees because he wants to build muscles. Then MC, thanks to plot magic, sees Juliana's life from a distance; for example he lives in one shitty apartment block with her, he sees how the landlord storms her room daily to get rent money, how she has a good relationship with her daughters when they are goofing around somewhere near the apartments, how she buys only discounted stuff at the market, how she rejects on the stairs subtle advances and proposals of some moron to get dicked, etc. Then, during events in the gym, the gymslut still tries to woo him at her side, but MC sees through her "nice" words and the fake behavior the same rotten personality as the bitch from his first day, who scammed him into getting beaten up and robbed. He confidently rejects her proposals without even a shadow of doubt. Then the sudden appearance of Juliana, the girls fight, and MC ends it and tells Juliana that he didn't even think to work with someone like this slut and will be working only with her. She is happy, finally a guy with enough principles to reject gymslut and believes in her as a better trainer despite a lack of popularity. For Juliana it serves as a catalyst to open up to him after his questions about all this shitstorm and fighting.

She tells about stolen clients, that gymslut crushes her by whoring with her clients, and that Juliana never will sell her dignity that way to compete with her, that she has big debts, unpaid rent, two daughters to feed, and she doesn't know what to do but sincerely appreciates MC for choosing her over gymslut, and because of this she trusts him more than anyone else outside of family. Because of it, it's her who spontaneously and desperately asks MC for help with customers, and surely not for nothing; for example, he can use the gym for free through her member card +1, and on top of that, she tells him that she saw MC buying junk food in a grocery store, and she happily will cook for him nice healthy food, and he can eat together with her family at her place because they're neighbors, and that's literally everything that she has to propose to MC to agree to at least try to help her to get out of this dire situation. MC starts thinking about everything, remembers stuff what he observed about her, and the fact that her own words align perfectly with his observations, he defines that she is actually a good person in a very bad situation, without bullshit and hidden agendas to use or scum him, and ONLY after all that does MC decide to help. The ending of this event will determine the beginning of building their more close relationship because they will spend time in the gym, at family dinners, and when working on the solving her problem with a low client base.

MC begins as a naive loser - check
MC makes mistakes - check
MC learning from his mistakes - check
MC use brains - check
MC developing before and winning appreciation of a decent woman after? - check
MC growth - check

I didn't say anything about demanding or expecting a fuckfest from the game. But it wouldn't hurt the game to have more of the main content that sells this same game, especially after so much time. When writing the scene with MC massaging Julliana, nothing prevented you from delaying her daughters return for them to have a little happy time. Okay, don't want them to fuck yet? Let her show her honest appreciation for MC's deeds by giving him a "hand") and only after release, let daughters return home and see interesting scene. The use of cock-blocking scenes in adult games by itself is always a failed move.

I didn't mean in any maner insult or discourage dev's. Just played the game and wrote my honest opinion. I hope we understand each other. Maybe one day I will play your game again, peace dude and good luck;)
 
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And found save with Norah monstruous nose I mentioned.
I just have to mention this separately — hahaha, I laughed so much at that! But well, she is an antagonist, so you have to expect some antagonist traits.


That specific version of Sabrina’s renders had an issue with our GPU during the rendering process. We were already running late, and some render settings for that particular version ended up poorly configured. I’ve already received feedback on this, and it’s on our improvement list. However, re-rendering and correcting it will take an entire version cycle. So yes, it will be done, but I still don’t know exactly when.

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For the other renders, I need to check what happened. I’m not sure if we accidentally left a light source in the scene or if it was an effect we intended to create. I’ll need to take a closer look.

The other points require a careful review. I’ll take my time to evaluate everything. Thank you for your time!
 

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Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed follow-up.

First, regarding reviews I will always request moderation to remove any review that I believe doesn’t follow F95’s guidelines for fair criticism. However, I won’t ask to delete reviews simply because they’re negative. Constructive feedback, whether positive or negative, is part of the process, and I welcome it.

That said, Our Home is an independent game made by a small team. We’re not professional writers I’m a programmer, for example and expecting perfection is a bit unrealistic. That doesn’t mean we won’t try to improve. On the contrary, I’m committed to making the story better with every update. But yes, writing is a craft that takes time to master, and hiring someone for that is often too expensive or logistically complicated. I’ve tried several times with different people, and it hasn’t worked out for various reasons.

One suggestion I have: remember that this is a community-driven platform. We’re all here to support and encourage indie creators. If a player finds issues with a game, I believe the best approach is to engage in a dialogue first — post a comment, ask the dev about their plans or upcoming changes. If the developer doesn’t respond or shows no intention to improve, then a review might be warranted.

A long negative review, breaking down every flaw, can discourage both players and developers. Many users will see a detailed critical review and decide not to try the game at all. For developers, especially those who are actively improving their projects, this can be demotivating. Keep in mind that reviews are not temporary, and many issues you raise may have already been addressed in updates. Unfortunately, I’ve tried repeatedly to get reviewers to update their reviews after improvements, and none of them have come back to do so.

Lastly, Our Home is still in development. Things will continue to change and evolve until the first chapter is complete.

Thank you again for your time and your feedback.
I was gonna say "good on ya" and leave it at that. But you essentially just told me "Don't review games negatively if you don't like them." Do you not understand how harmful that is? The counter is "This is an open platform to say what I think about a game" What's more is this is a platform where I haven't spent money on it so I don't feel obligated to give it the benefit of the doubt due to sunk-cost fallacies. I have good, long-standing relationships with multiple devs I've left long, sometimes scathing reviews on. Because I point out areas that need improvement. Am I harsh? Sure. But if the dev wants to talk about it, I'm wide open to it. If this was within the first couple releases, I'd have left a long comment pointing out things I think need to be improved and come back with high hopes if my comment is noticed. But this is almost half a decade in development. I can reliably say everything here is up to a standard that you accept to continually release it for so long.

And almost all of my reviews I try to come back after 6+ months to see if any improvements happen. And you can verify it easily. I don't even delete my old review so readers can compare what I felt initially vs the update. But you saying "This is still in development" doesn't shield you from criticism because it's been in development for almost 4 years. That's almost a full dev cycle for many games. I don't care if you're a large studio or one person, if I have issues with the game, I have issues with the game.

And me pointing out flaws is NOT expecting perfection. I expressed that the storytelling is not done well and will stand by the idea that whoever is writing needs to improve. This is not a dig, or some kind of bullying, there is no one on this planet that can ever stop improving. That's all I want, is for it to improve. I don't need thousands of lines of scripture regaling the most beautiful story ever told. I would just like more than "MC I need to tell you this important thing... But I've got something to do right now, I'll talk to you later." Or "Why am I so attracted to him, he needs to change his clothes, hair, personality and mannerisms. But he's so alluring"

All I ever want from my reviews, outside of the few that I play a game and find either blatant shovelware or underage content, is for things to get better. It doesn't need to be in an instant. Just understand that I just happen to have these views and opinions. And I've released a game on here I know how it feels to have people not like a game. And I help one dev in particular with his self critiquing and code. And I see how frustrated he gets with it. But most of the time your harshest critic is gonna be me: some idiot that makes light novella's worth of a review on dumb porn games. Don't like it? Can't help ya.
 

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Sure, I had some saves, but dont expect me to bulldoze render)
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And there is a lot of the same when characters hit direct light of the sun. And found save with Norah monstruous nose I mentioned.
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Like really, change skin color to green and add warts, and you get a stereotypical disney witch)


I wasn't serious about that, I just expressed in a joking manner that I regretted my spent time on the game, nothing more.

Attention! long read!)

I'm not telling about making MC a true gigachad from the beginning, who knows everything and makes only right choices just like that; it would be boring too. I'm not arguing with that. I'm talking about portraying his naive and gullible nature as something that is already a good trait, which, in general, makes things only better, already appealing to the women around him and that there are no negative consequences of being a naive good boy in a harsh adult world.

Example: Juliana arc.

MC meets her only a few times, has a few talks, and makes her acquaintance. After that he goes to the gym to train with her, goes to the changing room where another gym worker tries to seduce him to work with her instead of Juliana. And after that shit hits the fan, a sudden fight between two girls, MC accidentally, but still gets punched in the face, then weak apologies and sudden soul opening from her to MC about how bad things work in her life. What goes from it? MC by himself proposes unconditional help for a pretty serious problem to yesterday's stranger. Who is she for him? What does he know about her? On what conditions can he trust her? It's only the player who knows that she is actually a good person in need, who deserves help and doesn't try to scam him or something, and in the end, MC 100% will get her pussy for all the troubles. But MC by himself don't know shit about her and situation in general. She is practically no one for him, and there is nothing more to it. And MC's only way to woo her in your story is to blindly propose a complete for him stranger to deal with her personal serious problem, from whom in the last 15 minutes he saw only a shitstorm of fucked-up events without any credibility behind her words that things really as she tells him.

How do people say "criticize? Then propose your solution" or something like that.
So, my proposition is to picture MC behavior and development in this way.

Let's go way back to the beginning. MC leaves the orphanage where he spent a peaceful and oversheltered childhood. He came to the town with his friendly and naive look at things and faith in a better life. Soon after arrival, some cute girl approaches him and asks him for help with something with big, watering eyes, MC jump to help without any questions and she lures him into a dark alley where he got mugged and beaten up by her friends. MC shocked about what happeed, how people can be so deceiving and evil and blah blah, and with time he slowly realize that the world can be very bad and hurtful place for ignorant and naive people like him and that not everyone is by default nice and decent people who deserve your help.

After some time he meets Juliana, and she tries to recruit him to work out with her in the gym, like it was in the story. He agrees cautiously because he doesn't trust strangers easily anymore, but in the end agrees because he wants to build muscles. Then MC, thanks to plot magic, sees Juliana's life from a distance; for example he lives in one shitty apartment block with her, he sees how the landlord storms her room daily to get rent money, how she has a good relationship with her daughters when they are goofing around somewhere near the apartments, how she buys only discounted stuff at the market, how she rejects on the stairs subtle advances and proposals of some moron to get dicked, etc. Then, during events in the gym, the gymslut still tries to woo him at her side, but MC sees through her "nice" words and the fake behavior the same rotten personality as the bitch from his first day, who scammed him into getting beaten up and robbed. He confidently rejects her proposals without even a shadow of doubt. Then the sudden appearance of Juliana, the girls fight, and MC ends it and tells Juliana that he didn't even think to work with someone like this slut and will be working only with her. She is happy, finally a guy with enough principles to reject gymslut and believes in her as a better trainer despite a lack of popularity. For Juliana it serves as a catalyst to open up to him after his questions about all this shitstorm and fighting.

She tells about stolen clients, that gymslut crushes her by whoring with her clients, and that Juliana never will sell her dignity that way to compete with her, that she has big debts, unpaid rent, two daughters to feed, and she doesn't know what to do but sincerely appreciates MC for choosing her over gymslut, and because of this she trusts him more than anyone else outside of family. Because of it, it's her who spontaneously and desperately asks MC for help with customers, and surely not for nothing; for example, he can use the gym for free through her member card +1, and on top of that, she tells him that she saw MC buying junk food in a grocery store, and she happily will cook for him nice healthy food, and he can eat together with her family at her place because they're neighbors, and that's literally everything that she has to propose to MC to agree to at least try to help her to get out of this dire situation. MC starts thinking about everything, remembers stuff what he observed about her, and the fact that her own words align perfectly with his observations, he defines that she is actually a good person in a very bad situation, without bullshit and hidden agendas to use or scum him, and ONLY after all that does MC decide to help. The ending of this event will determine the beginning of building their more close relationship because they will spend time in the gym, at family dinners, and when working on the solving her problem with a low client base.

MC begins as a naive loser - check
MC makes mistakes - check
MC learning from his mistakes - check
MC use brains - check
MC developing before and winning appreciation of a decent woman after? - check
MC growth - check

I didn't say anything about demanding or expecting a fuckfest from the game. But it wouldn't hurt the game to have more of the main content that sells this same game, especially after so much time. When writing the scene with MC massaging Julliana, nothing prevented you from delaying her daughters return for them to have a little happy time. Okay, don't want them to fuck yet? Let her show her honest appreciation for MC's deeds by giving him a "hand") and only after release, let daughters return home and see interesting scene. The use of cock-blocking scenes in adult games by itself is always a failed move.

I didn't mean in any maner insult or discourage dev's. Just played the game and wrote my honest opinion. I hope we understand each other. Maybe one day I will play your game again, peace dude and good luck;)
There’s a phrase we use quite often here — “armchair engineer” (or “hindsight expert”) — hahaha! Once everything is done, it’s a lot easier to identify what could have been better.

Regarding Juliana’s scene ending at that moment, it wasn’t about “blue balls.” The reason was more like, “We can’t create anything more right now, so how can we wrap this up in a dignified way?” And of course, at some point, we’ll inevitably run into a situation where a sensual scene gets interrupted. After all, we have to deliver content monthly — it’s the strategy that works to keep a steady income stream.

Well, now I fully understand everything you’ve pointed out, and I’ll make an effort to improve this type of contextualization. It really isn’t easy to achieve, especially because there has to be a balance. But I promise I’ll pay more attention to this kind of detail moving forward.
 
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I was gonna say "good on ya" and leave it at that. But you essentially just told me "Don't review games negatively if you don't like them." Do you not understand how harmful that is? The counter is "This is an open platform to say what I think about a game" What's more is this is a platform where I haven't spent money on it so I don't feel obligated to give it the benefit of the doubt due to sunk-cost fallacies. I have good, long-standing relationships with multiple devs I've left long, sometimes scathing reviews on. Because I point out areas that need improvement. Am I harsh? Sure. But if the dev wants to talk about it, I'm wide open to it. If this was within the first couple releases, I'd have left a long comment pointing out things I think need to be improved and come back with high hopes if my comment is noticed. But this is almost half a decade in development. I can reliably say everything here is up to a standard that you accept to continually release it for so long.

And almost all of my reviews I try to come back after 6+ months to see if any improvements happen. And you can verify it easily. I don't even delete my old review so readers can compare what I felt initially vs the update. But you saying "This is still in development" doesn't shield you from criticism because it's been in development for almost 4 years. That's almost a full dev cycle for many games. I don't care if you're a large studio or one person, if I have issues with the game, I have issues with the game.

And me pointing out flaws is NOT expecting perfection. I expressed that the storytelling is not done well and will stand by the idea that whoever is writing needs to improve. This is not a dig, or some kind of bullying, there is no one on this planet that can ever stop improving. That's all I want, is for it to improve. I don't need thousands of lines of scripture regaling the most beautiful story ever told. I would just like more than "MC I need to tell you this important thing... But I've got something to do right now, I'll talk to you later." Or "Why am I so attracted to him, he needs to change his clothes, hair, personality and mannerisms. But he's so alluring"

All I ever want from my reviews, outside of the few that I play a game and find either blatant shovelware or underage content, is for things to get better. It doesn't need to be in an instant. Just understand that I just happen to have these views and opinions. And I've released a game on here I know how it feels to have people not like a game. And I help one dev in particular with his self critiquing and code. And I see how frustrated he gets with it. But most of the time your harshest critic is gonna be me: some idiot that makes light novella's worth of a review on dumb porn games. Don't like it? Can't help ya.
Alright, got it! Perfect — just a small correction: I didn’t say exactly what you wrote there, hahaha! What I really said was that maybe you could start by leaving a comment in some games, especially those published by the developers themselves.

This is your first interaction with Our Home, and you chose to write a review — and that’s totally fine if that’s your choice. I was just making a suggestion. You have your own convictions and your way of doing things, and that’s perfectly okay!

I’ll tag you when the things you mentioned show some improvement, and I’ll be looking forward to a second review. That way, it’ll be the first time I have someone who actually comes back to check if what I did really made a difference.
 

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There’s a phrase we use quite often here — “armchair engineer” (or “hindsight expert”) — hahaha! Once everything is done, it’s a lot easier to identify what could have been better.
Exactly, lol) I will not argue with that even in the slightest. Last time I wrote smth myself was 8-10 years ago. But I still remember that writing story from scrach is actually a pain in the ass)
 
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In my humble opinion, the game is great, but slow 4 years in production, and there are few scenes, the fact is that the plot of this game is engaging, the renders are great, even those above what my friend wrote those from scarlet, you can assume that the sun was shining on her skin from this side, and now don't rewrite such a prologue note, just move on with the game, Because after so many years that it has been in production, it feels like I just came out of the prologue and played only one week, so push this game forward and you will have a group of supporters and sponsors, and you will be able to improve the prologue at the end of this game. And once again a good game.
 

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Saw this game posted on another adult games website so thought I would check it out...

Then i saw "This game does not and will never have NTR or sharing" ...dayum!!! :cry::cautious::cry:

Maybe I'll check it out sometime in the future but good luck with the game OldHiccup!! (y)(y)(y)
exactly my type of game no ntr and only sharing girl with other girls if it feels natural.
 
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