MrOrwell

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This is ridiculous. Would you say the same for hunger and thirst? Where does this self-righteousness stop for you? Those (sexual feelings and urges) are indeed universal human feelings, nobody is A PRIORI immune. What you call "mindset" is not absolute immunity, like everything human it is frail and can break down, it depends on discipline, morals, training, opportunity.
What is your experience in the swinging lifestyle? How many years? How many swingers (old school term), ENM (ethical non-monogamous which is the more modern term) couples and/or poly groups have you known well? Unless your sample size approaches at least 20, then I respectfully say that you're the one being self-righteous by claiming to speak for a group of people you don't know and don't understand. My wife and I have been married for more than 40 years and been swinging longer than that. We've met hundreds of people over those years and have had long term friendships with scores of couples. Please don't lecture me on my first hand experience.

Mindset IS absolute immunity if the people involved decide to make it so. It depends on discipline, morals, training, opportunity, and rational choice. If you don't think this is a true statement, I strongly suggest that you find a BDSM club and talk to a D/s couple. If you tell THEM mindset is frail and can break down they will laugh in your face. The choice to ignore the opportunity is pretty much the basis of their entire relationship.

People who choose to live this lifestyle usually have long discussions with their partners beforehand about boundaries and limits. Those that don't have those discussions DO turn into the cheaters. In the long run, those usually aren't healthy relationships.
 

MrOrwell

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Are you claiming it never crossed your mind, to do something your partner wouldn't like, on any occasion?
Sexually, yeah. I am claiming that. Because she and I have discussed boundaries ahead of time.

We know what the other would and would not be comfortable with. If a new "something" came up with a person I would tell them that this new territory and we would have to explore it at another time. 99% of the time they understood completely and we continued with other things. If they insisted, then they weren't someone I could trust and I made an exit. That only happened one time. We were meeting a new couple. Instead of the already agreed dinner meeting with the two couples, the wife wanted me to meet her that afternoon for a "test drive" as she put it. She kept pushing and we eventually cancelled meeting them entirely.
 
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