VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[GokutheG]

Bestiality should be another choice.

Don't think the dev would ever include that content so there's no reason for it to be a choice. Lena saying that she fantasize about being the dominant one makes sense because she can be that already towards Louise and/or Ian.

 

[Leo Von Frich]

Ian and Lena's behavior depends a lot on their Lust level, for example Lena has a lot of Lust level, she starts to like being dominated in the relationship and starts to like sex in a threesome, if it is very low she will be more reserved and less open in the relationship.

 

[LucT]

I don't think Molly would want her to do that on the job. There's a difference between nudity for art and sexing up her dream cafe.

This seems like something of a last ditch effort to save them from having to sell the cafe but if you're already helping them then they're doing well enough not to worry about selling anymore.

I could see a path similar to this happening if Eva decides to expand on the abandoned(that's what I saw here) Ed route tho.

What you say is true, however the increased turnout at the café could reduce after some time, requiring new ideas, starting not really topless but wearing only an apron and thong at first.

 

[Reaurt]

EvaKiss isn't done answering the questions on her most recent Q&A, but I figured I'd summarize the more interesting responses so far.

EvaKiss Sept 2023 Q&A Notes #1

1) She is changing her first estimate of 20 chapters for the whole game down to 16 chapters, but this is not fixed. She doesn’t have a clear end goal in mind for the game but knows the general direction she wants to take the storylines.

2) She would like to give Patreons what they want (see Polls), and will make some smaller suggestions happen, but she is going to follow her own vision. Her vision is what keeps her motivated.

3) She was inspired by Mass Effect and Dragon Age. The porn VN that made her realize she could make games like this was "Katie's corruption".

4) She has experimented with AI to create backgrounds to speed things up in production, but the standard of quality is not there yet.

5) Hard to pick a favorite character or story arc since different characters/stories are appealing in different ways. Lena and Ian are fun to write in different ways. Some storylines are easier and more fun than others.

6) GGGB was a porn trope sandbox generating “wildly different” outcomes to player choices, and Eva is really interested in player actions leading to consequences, lacking in most games. For ORS, she wanted inspiration from real-world stories (along with the occasional porn trope) to make the characters more grounded and player choices to have stronger emotional impact.

7) Adding cosmetic options (like tanning Lena) is a pain, but she'd like to add a beard for Ian at some point.

8) There will be more threesomes ahead. More unprotected sex and possible pregnancies ahead as well.

9) She knew having a double protagonist was risky, but she didn’t want to make another GGGB. She wanted new creative challenges to keep her motivated. She will take on new risky challenges in her next game when it comes.

10) Some major plot points and big scenes are expected in Chapter 12 that have been on the backburner for a while.

11) She hasn't totally discarded the idea of something sexy involving Ed and Lena in some way, but it remains to be seen if she'll have time to add it.

 

[SerHawkes]

EvaKiss isn't done answering the questions on her most recent Q&A, but I figured I'd summarize the more interesting responses so far.

EvaKiss Sept 2023 Q&A Notes #1

1) She is changing her first estimate of 20 chapters for the whole game down to 16 chapters, but this is not fixed. She doesn’t have a clear end goal in mind for the game but knows the general direction she wants to take the storylines.

2) She would like to give Patreons what they want (see Polls), and will make some smaller suggestions happen, but she is going to follow her own vision. Her vision is what keeps her motivated.

3) She was inspired by Mass Effect and Dragon Age. The porn VN that made her realize she could make games like this was "Katie's corruption".

4) She has experimented with AI to create backgrounds to speed things up in production, but the standard of quality is not there yet.

5) Hard to pick a favorite character or story arc since different characters/stories are appealing in different ways. Lena and Ian are fun to write in different ways. Some storylines are easier and more fun than others.

6) GGGB was a porn trope sandbox generating “wildly different” outcomes to player choices, and Eva is really interested in player actions leading to consequences, lacking in most games. For ORS, she wanted inspiration from real-world stories (along with the occasional porn trope) to make the characters more grounded and player choices to have stronger emotional impact.

7) Adding cosmetic options (like tanning Lena) is a pain, but she'd like to add a beard for Ian at some point.

8) There will be more threesomes ahead. More unprotected sex and possible pregnancies ahead as well.

9) She knew having a double protagonist was risky, but she didn’t want to make another GGGB. She wanted new creative challenges to keep her motivated. She will take on new risky challenges in her next game when it comes.

10) Some major plot points and big scenes are expected in Chapter 12 that have been on the backburner for a while.

11) She hasn't totally discarded the idea of something sexy involving Ed and Lena in some way, but it remains to be seen if she'll have time to add it.

1. Down to 16 chapters possibly? Well ain't that fucking peachy. Means less screen time or the chance for Ian-Ivy.
2. Translation: She's more so cater to fetishist than ACTUALLY stick to her own story.
3. Respect for playing ME and DA.
4. As for cosmetics, just fucking add them as a all in one event. Sheesh.
5. As long as I can knock up Ivy with Ian I'll be happy as well. If not, well... I'm already the jadest of mother fuckers here so...
6. Well she pretty much made another GGGB, given the fetishist content and uncompelling story, not to mention other things.
7. Major points and big scenes? I'll believe it when I see it. Though... It could be about Ivy-Ian, which have been in the fucking backburner since the beginning of fucking time. I won't hold my breath.
8. Oh wonderful... giving us another creepy, cringy old man content over others... Might as well call this the Our Fetish Strings.

 

[| Vee |]

1) She is changing her first estimate of 20 chapters for the whole game down to 16 chapters, but this is not fixed. She doesn’t have a clear end goal in mind for the game but knows the general direction she wants to take the storylines.

That is concerning as we will get less content with how many character branching's are so I think EK is trying to wrap this up as quickly without cutting down on content too much. So, to end ORS in 2 year's or so.

2) She would like to give Patreons what they want (see Polls), and will make some smaller suggestions happen, but she is going to follow her own vision. Her vision is what keeps her motivated.

I'm glad to hear it. we'll see how this will buildup.

4) She has experimented with AI to create backgrounds to speed things up in production, but the standard of quality is not there yet.

Yeah AI is not there yet but it can help EK to boost her work and cut down time very much. She can than touch up those background's and edit them to make them workable. So yeah It's a PLUS!

 

[| Vee |]

Bestiality should be another choice.

I don't think Steam allows that.

 

[lipe2410]

Bestiality should be another choice.

I think i like you more when you're asking for NTR in BaD thread, bro.

 

[yuvce]

Bestiality should be another choice.

Not just Steam, Patreon doesn't allow it either

You must be registered to see the links

 

[robrize2169]

listening to patreons? cause that worked so well for TAC. Eva Kiss..stay with your own ideas. don't listen to those freaks and pervs telling you what they want!!!

 

[lucadiadis]

female agent

Thanks, have not heard of that one, will have a look.

 

[Filipis]

Bestiality should be another choice.

Don't think that was ever the plan for these games. And frankly, just doesn't fit into the narrative. The game is trying to simulate a "Friends" style ensemble (focused on sex), so adding such controversial content for the few that might enjoy seeing Lena/Cindy/Holly/Louise degraded like that wouldn't be well received, I don't think at least. It would be akin to adding a sudden Futa/Trans content, regardless if the dev makes it optional, aka avoidable.

 

[Xupuzulla]

16 chapters instead of 20 makes sense,the game kind drags storywise already,Seymour plot being the most obvious one.
This is also good news because it means this game is not going to be finished in 2030 or something.
This also means less sex scenes through,at this point my boy Stan is going to get a bj and thats it.
Evakiss talking about a new game is interesting,good to know she wants to keep creating.

 

[Shaggyhair]

I think 16 chapters is fine, but I think when its finished Eva could go back and give some love to characters left behind like Ed.

 

[suminglong]

i've been waiting for this game, thanks for. Thank you for sharing

 

[lukrame]

For some reason the sex scenes in this game are ... not very satisfying. Not sure how to explain it but they feel really robotic with the exact same moans used every time.

 

[bauman]

1) She is changing her first estimate of 20 chapters for the whole game down to 16 chapters, but this is not fixed. She doesn’t have a clear end goal in mind for the game but knows the general direction she wants to take the storylines.

20 Chapters made sense because the dev spent 10 of them building up everything. If Eva Kiss wraps it up in five, it will be underwhelming. Some characters haven't had their stories going. Even Lena and Ian's stories feel unexplored 11 chapters in. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but I'm skeptical unless chapters 12-16 receive a significant increase in length and content.

Edit: To add to that, the development of GGGB followed a similar pattern. The dev lost interest, and after a certain point, the game devolved into a porno gallery with the most popular characters, with the story taking a backseat. We got rushed endings and two half-assed post-ending updates. The dev promised a third, but it got scrapped to focus on ORS.

 

[SerHawkes]

For some reason the sex scenes in this game are ... not very satisfying. Not sure how to explain it but they feel really robotic with the exact same moans used every time.

Rinse, reuse, repeat. Sure, the artwork of most scenes are well done and eye catching, but not wrong. They can be lack luster with the same moan or such.

 

[SerHawkes]

20 Chapters made sense because the dev spent 10 of them building up everything. If Eva Kiss wraps it up in five, it will be underwhelming. Some characters haven't had their stories going. Even Lena and Ian's stories feel unexplored 11 chapters in. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but I'm skeptical unless chapters 12-16 receive a significant increase in length and content.

I'm on the fence. I agree, given the shaft job of content (COUGH COUGH Ian-Ivy COUGH) and entirely under preforming in the actual story (other than circle jerking with kinks and fetish content, still have yet to get into the tourney after 3+ "updates), EK's disappointed the fans majorly. So IF she is honestly considering to hang it up with ORS after 16 chapters, then the remaining ones better be LOOOOOOAAAAADDDDDDDEEEEEDDDD with Content and Actual Story progress. To which, natually, I have serious doubts with given how she said herself, she wants to listen to the "polls" (Oh yeah, news fucking flash there EK, It's ALWAYS GONNA BE A ONE FUCKING SIDED BULLSHIT VOTE of Cindy/Jeremy getting top spots) while claiming that she wants to stay "true" to her own story. That went out the fucking window when she did questionable reworks and keeps given her fetish fans more content over and over than ACTUAL story or giving content out to others that have been in the toolshed. (Mainly Ian-Ivy/Emma.)

NOW, could she consider going with a "DLC" sort of deal and add on to the story? It's possible. But honestly I highly doubt this game is gonna be truly wrapped up in 16 chapters, if that. That would mean EK would have to actually put in alot more work, have a much longer development time. Problem with that, she rushes herself with said development time, tries pushing deadlines on herself to put out the chapters, which end up being either sub-par or above average in reception.

But that's my two cents on the matter. Feel free to give headpats folks.

 

[JoJoPool]

10) Some major plot points and big scenes are expected in Chapter 12 that have been on the backburner for a while.

- Ivy and another male character
- Lena and Seymour ( and not just another photoshoot )
- Lena and Axel ( Lena falls even harder for Axel and starts having mixed feelings and reconsiders her relationship with him, and what about Ian ? )
- Cindy and Axel ( things will get even more complicated, extra fun and drama and i'm here for it )
- Lena MMF threesome ( preferably with Jeremy and Ian because it will affect Ian and Jeremy's relationship as well as Lena and Ian's, It will be interesting to see how things develop from there )
- Hmmm what else.... Lena x Stan ?? ( whatever but i wouldn't be surprised considering the polls ) what if Louise catches them, how will that affect their relationship ? Is she going to be a good slave or turn on Lena ? that will be interesting
- I almost forgot, IAN x EMMA x JEREMY !