VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[mommysboiii]

The way I see it, the problem with Lena is that her personality is not consistent if the player puts her on the 'corruption' path. The character quickly becomes illogical and perhaps even unpleasant. Her behavior contradicts her basic 'canon' personality at the start of the game and turns her into a massive fucking hypocrite. Not only because of her actions but also how she goes about them. At times, it almost feels like the writer wants the player to know that they've made the 'wrong' choice, which I find very odd for a porn game.

true finally someone with a brain

Well I think it's not that bad cuz a lot of cheater don't like getting cheated on

but than lena would never suck jeremys cock or fuck him or mark or anyone in the first place(which would be pretty boring so I love that we can do it but also like play sweet inoccent lena sometimes)

 

[mommysboiii]

That would just mean that Ian should stay away from that loose slut Lena and innocent, tight, cute, little Holly is the girl for him.

nah mate i will date her with ian and hope eva dont does the decission that all the sudden(because ntr crybabys) holly(cindy and all women too) cant get corrupted anymore just because she is together with ian even if you push her with ivy and lena in that direction with future partys and drugs and so on

I corrupt the shit out of holly even if together with ian

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

Regarding Lena hating cheating: The moment she invited Mike, all her resentment toward Cherry, Axel and so on is hypocritical. Out of character, unless we accept that Ian and Lena can develop extremely radical like GGGB Ashley.

Being a hypocrite is fine if the character gets called out for it, realizes their mistake, and either learn to be a better person or keep doing it since they're on the corruption path anyway.

 

[dobzzz]

true finally someone with a brain

but than lena would never suck jeremys cock or fuck him or mark or anyone in the first place(which would be pretty boring so I love that we can do it but also like play sweet inoccent lena sometimes)

Who is mark thou ik Robert , Mike and ian and his friends but who is mark ,is it the same Mark from gggb

 

[mommysboiii]

Who is mark thou ik Robert , Mike and ian and his friends but who is mark ,is it the same Mark from gggb

no I always mistake this two guys

 

[Gicoo]

Being a hypocrite is fine if the character gets called out for it, realizes their mistake, and either learn to be a better person or keep doing it since they're on the corruption path anyway.

Hopefully this happens. It is done decently with Ian: He is aware that he isn't better than Axel and feels genuine guilty, rather than gloating about how he is better than Wade.

It's ironic that Ian comes off better, even though he betrays one of his best friends, while Lena merely sabotages someones relationship she doesn't know and relate to.

 

[Deleted member 5204482]

Hopefully this happens. It is done decently with Ian: He is aware that he isn't better than Axel and feels genuine guilty, rather than gloating about how he is better than Wade.

It's ironic that Ian comes off better, even though he betrays one of his best friends, while Lena merely sabotages someones relationship she doesn't know and relate to.

Maybe that's a result of the creative divide between what the two protagonists each represent to Eva Kiss:

Ian's half has more consistent development and balancing for Ian and his love interests in their respective routes, the focus on writing and meta aspects might also be indicative of Eva's desire to evolve and move forward as a creator.

Lena represents more of a holdover from GGGB: less consistent and less realistic characters and development to keep in line with the "GGGB 2.0" model that will be more appealing to old fans and keep patrons onboard with the typical porn-before-plot and corruption routes.

 

[bauman]

Hopefully this happens. It is done decently with Ian: He is aware that he isn't better than Axel and feels genuine guilty, rather than gloating about how he is better than Wade.

It's ironic that Ian comes off better, even though he betrays one of his best friends, while Lena merely sabotages someones relationship she doesn't know and relate to.

It feels like Ian's cheating scenarios are more thought out. On Lena's path, you have her getting raw dogged by Mike - a total stranger to her and Jeremy - another stranger with whom she develops her initial interest mainly because of the size of his dick. So he's more of a fetish device so far.

It's a shame Eva Kiss put Ed & Molly on the back burner because Ed could've been a believable option for a well-developed cheating scenario for Lena early on.

 

[BloodyMares]

Regarding Lena hating cheating: The moment she invited Mike, all her resentment toward Cherry, Axel and so on is hypocritical. Out of character, unless we accept that Ian and Lena can develop extremely radical like GGGB Ashley.

Hypocritical yes, not necessarily out of character. Everyone has dark thought or impulses, the ones we usually suppress to appear nice and avoid judgment. She might not be overly empathetic towards strangers, only the people she cares about. So Mike's girlfriend in her mind might not even exist and he just plays hard to get. Lena can be very selfish and biased. Even when she seemingly cares about others' well-being, her worry for them is based on selfish reasons. She attacked Ian for kissing Holly not because Holly was in pain but because she stopped talking to her.

So with that in mind I think it makes sense that she feels very strongly about Cherry and Axel, because they hurt her. Likewise she can snitch on Jeremy to Louise to protect her from heartbreak and be overly protective of Holly (unless Ivy is involved). But she doesn't have a reason to hate Gillian for example because she doesn't know her, and likewise might not feel guilty about stealing Mike from his girlfriend, since to her she's of no consequence, and it's not like she's responsible for Mike being a cheater. I think her main hatred towards Cherry has to do not even for being involved with Axel, but for having a threesome without being aware of their affair. It was a very humiliating experience, and she believes Cherry wanted to humiliate her by playing this twisted game, instead of confessing and warning Lena that Axel shouldn't be trusted.

Personally, I think Lena's affair with Jeremy is much more evil and hypocritical in relation to Louise than her hookup with Mike. Unlike with Mike's girlfriend, she knows how hurt Louise would be if she realized what Lena was doing. That contrasts with her earlier concerns about Jeremy's behavior. Which once again proves my theory that Lena is very selfish, willing to set her morals aside if she ends up benefiting from someone else's misbehavior. No harm done if the victim doesn't know anything, right?... She seems to like to be the seductress, that's why Seymour's words end up working so well on her.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

It feels like Ian's cheating scenarios are more thought out. On Lena's path, you have her getting raw dogged by Mike - a total stranger to her and Jeremy - another stranger with whom she develops her initial interest mainly because of the size of his dick. So he's more of a fetish device so far.

It's a shame Eva Kiss put Ed & Molly on the back burner because Ed could've been a believable option for a well-developed cheating scenario for Lena early on.

I haven't played Mike route yet. Is he still dating his OG girlfriend despite fucking Lena on the side?

 

[BloodyMares]

I haven't played Mike route yet. Is he still dating his OG girlfriend despite fucking Lena on the side?

Yes, though Lena can progress their relationship from casual booty-calls to semi-romantic affair where he openly admits that she makes him feel something he hasn't felt even with his girlfriend.

 

[bauman]

I haven't played Mike route yet. Is he still dating his OG girlfriend despite fucking Lena on the side?

Yeah, Mike is basically Pauly D from Jersey Shore. He gets the benefits of smashing Lena without putting in the work to get there as Ian does.

 

[Sheet420]

ian loser/holly corrupted by ivy and lena (hope they go on party with mike or mark or how he is called for some practice)
or
ian loser/cindy relationship route hope axel trys something with her
or alison/ian loser love route I cant decide all 3 are good dont know which i play first

What are the specifics of Ian loser route?

 

[fatpussy123]

Waiting for Eva Kiss to post an update is AGONY

 

[Deleted member 5500872]

The way I see it, the problem with Lena is that her personality is not consistent if the player puts her on the 'corruption' path. The character quickly becomes illogical and perhaps even unpleasant. Her behavior contradicts her basic 'canon' personality at the start of the game and turns her into a massive fucking hypocrite.

So what you are saying is that she acts like a real woman would.

 

[Firraxa]

Let's disscus Ian way 9999 times again, from 10.2021 till 12.2022. No any updaetes from more then a year. I belive in ch 10 in this year. But this is most teriable work like a dev. ewen Wife and Mother more offen

 

[portrapoodle]

When update

 

[maaarco2014]

When update

Soon augh!

 

[mommysboiii]

What are the specifics of Ian loser route?

just roleplay a more shy ian dont be sucessful with women be a yesman with bossy minvera(which is sadly not rewarded with femdom or anything at the moment) only focus on one girl for example cindy,be shy ,dont say anything if axel touch her on the photoshot dont go for the higest stats get beaten up from robert jerk on jeremys videos and pics that he sends you look at the photos of your ex gf and so on there are lof of decission hope we will get options especially with cindy (axel) and holly(ivy,mike,bouncer party corruption) when together with ian that would complete the routes

 

[Doppelgang]

Gotta agree with BloodyMares regarding Lena and the out of character debate. Lena cares about Ian and Holly—among others—and it would be out of character if she rationally did something to hurt them. She is caring and attentive when it comes to other persons' feelings—as long as nothing else comes in and clouds her judgement. If Lena enters a relationship with Ian even though she's already had sex with his best friend, that would've been an ice cold and inconsiderate action in a situation where she's thinking rationally. In other words, out of character. Or at least enough out of character that I think it's understandable that it's not an option.

But she's also starting to get fed up (consciously or unconsciously) with having to take care of others: Working several jobs, having to listen to Louise's complaining, quiting her studies to work and send money to her parents, struggling for a long time after her breakup because Axel didn't treat her with the same respect as she did to him. So I think it's reasonable that her caring and considerate side are getting challenged by a desire to put herself first for once.

It's also clear that she enjoys being the seductress and being desired. That's obvious with Mike, Stan, Seymour, Ed and Jeremy. Mike has a girlfriend, so she shouldn't get involved with him—but it also makes it even more exciting that he's willing to put his relationship at stake to spend the night with her. And with Jeremy the reasons are even bigger to not get involved—but because of that, the excitement of it is also much stronger. It's extremely hypocritical, but as a "fuck it, I want it and I'll just do it" in the heat of the moment, I don't think it's out of character. It's just two very different sides of her character that stand against each other, and she'll have to decide one or the other.