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By the way, does anyone know if helping pay for the food changes anything in this update? Or does it only impact the Perry relationship when it happens? Perhaps he won't buy Emma's vegan burgers if Ian doesn't pay?:cry:
There's text variants which hinge on how much Ian has contributed:
Python:
    e "I see you guys are already hard at work!"
    w "Good coals need time and care."
    i "I hope you bought enough food for everyone!"
    if v12_bbq == 2:
        p "Of course. There's enough to l--{w=0.5}last for several days."
        i "Nice."
    elif v12_bbq == 1:
        p "Don't worry about it. There's e--{w=0.5}enough for everybody..."
        i "We'll see about that."
    else:
        p "I did what I c--{w=0.5}could. If only a certain someone had p--{w=0.5}pitched in..."
        i "I have the feeling I shouldn't have trusted you with this..."
// ...
    i "Damn, these burgers are amazing!"
    h "Oh, wow! It's true... So tasty!"
    w "Told you! I'm the BBQ Master and fire is my element!"
    if v12_bbq == 2:
        e "And these vegan burgers are incredible too! Cooked to perfection!"
        p "I'm glad you like them... I bought different types. They have them in every flavor!"
        e "Yeah, there's a ton... Do you guys wanna try one?" 
        h "I'd like to..."
        if v10_emma_sex:
            e "Help yourself! I don't think I'm gonna go hungry!"
            e "Well, and if I do... I'm sure I'll find something to get myself filled up with."
        else:
            e "Help yourself!"
            $ v12_perry_success += 1
    elif v12_bbq == 1:
        e "Mine is also very good! Thank you for getting a few vegan burgers too."
        p "Of course... I wasn't sure which ones to b--{w=0.5}buy. They have them in every flavor!"
        p "They're e--{w=0.5}expensive, though... I wish I could've gotten a few more."
        e "Don't worry, I don't think I'm gonna go hungry!"
        if v10_emma_sex:
            e "Well, and if I do... I'm sure I'll find something to get myself filled up with."
    else:
        e "They look really tasty..."
        e "I wish we had something else other than bread and potatoes for the vegetarian crew over here."
        "Wade speared a burger with his fork and held it up to Emma's face."
        w "It's not too late to join the dark side!"
        e "No, thank, you..."
        e "But a vegan burger or something would've been good..."
        p "T--{w=0.5}those are too e--{w=0.5}expensive... I had to buy f--{w=0.5}food for the six of us, and also b--{w=0.5}beer..."
        w "Beer first and foremost! Cheers!"
        p "If s--{w=0.5}someone I know had pitched in..."
        i "Hey, don't look at me. You're the organizer over here."
        $ v12_perry_success -= 1
Note these perry_success changes. This is affecting potential outcome of Perry's confession, if Perry and Emma haven't hooked up before.
 
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Overall I'd say it's a 7/10. There's lots of decent content, though some of it feels like extra padding on routes that already have lots of material (Holly with various men, Ian being with women he's been with before etc.). Typically I'd give it a mid score of 5/10, but the Louise texting and Emma scenes add some spiciness and treads some new ground, the scenes are generally really good, I can appreciate the quality of Lena/Axel and Ian/Holly even if I don't play their routes, and surprisingly I found the more tender moments between Wade and Ian rather sweet. Wade needs a pal, and Perry ain't one that's good for him. Pity some of my Ian's are shifty bastards who wanna get with Cindy. :eek:

By the way, does anyone know if helping pay for the food changes anything in this update? Or does it only impact the Perry relationship when it happens? Perhaps he won't buy Emma's vegan burgers if Ian doesn't pay?:cry:

To be honest this has made Louise immensely more interesting to me. Not in a "I like this girl now" kinda way, but just the sheer audacity has me sort of curious to see where it can lead with her and her various relationship combinations. :ROFLMAO:
I didn't get the time to do that run, but for tormenting Perry in my new run I'll do that. I'll let you know if anything changes if we don't pay that clown.
Edit - Oh, ffive already posted the codes. Thanks mate.
 
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Not sure what makes you say this. Lena at the very fucking start of the game is a person without any real background and the only thing we learn about her is that she just broke up with her boyfriend Axel, which is one fixed aspect of all provided backstories in Ch.12.

u just admitted that you never actually read all that useless dialogues. And it's ok until you decide to yolojump in dat boring discussions.

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and that's wild girl is the same person that

1. cries in a random alley over a minor argument with her bf
2. waitressing in a boring family café
3. interested in books, music, art
4. doesn't hook up with anyone for several months after breaking up with bf
5. ignores social media
6. all is super cute and overly polite
7. overreacting when asked about sexual life, etc.
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u just admitted that you never actually read all that useless dialogues. And it's ok until you decide to yolojump in dat boring discussions.
You can leave this sort of wild speculations off the next time. Not only are they wrong, they contribute nothing.

and that's wild girl is the same person that

1. cries in a random alley over a minor argument with her bf
2. waitressing in a boring family café
3. interested in books, music, art
4. doesn't hook up with anyone for several months after breaking up with bf
5. ignores social media
6. all is super cute and overly polite
7. overreacting when asked about sexual life, etc.
You seem to be under impression that a person who's had more than few sexual partners can't be possibly interested in books, or put up with a shitty job, or have good manners, or be devastated after discovering her most serious boyfriend to date has been cheating on her to the point where she'd shy away from getting close with anyone for a few months.

You're simply mistaken.
 

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u just admitted that you never actually read all that useless dialogues. And it's ok until you decide to yolojump in dat boring discussions.


and that's wild girl is the same person that

1. cries in a random alley over a minor argument with her bf
2. waitressing in a boring family café
3. interested in books, music, art
4. doesn't hook up with anyone for several months after breaking up with bf
5. ignores social media
6. all is super cute and overly polite
7. overreacting when asked about sexual life, etc.
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Do wild girls not cry after arguments with their boyfriend?
Are wild girls banned from working at cafes?
Are wild girls not allowed to be interested in the arts?
Can wild girls not be polite?
Can wild girls not be caught off guard by lewd questions, especially in a neutral environment?

Also she literally says she doesn't want to be judged for her past, implying some degree of separation. Clearly after Axel she tried to start over and take things slow, even if she was wild when she was younger.

I think you're confusing being wild and fun with being a brain-dead bimbo.
 

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I suspect EK is more than aware Perry is unlikable character due to his flaws. At the same time, if the game is going to last these 16-20 episodes then it makes some sense not to frontload entire character arc. Perry has potentially made some strides if you get him to work at the cafe, but it's not silver bullet and it'll take more for him to fully shape up. If he ever does.
The same has been true for Wade. This release was finally the kick in the pants he needed to start to right the ship, to which I say good for him.

Even Ian can be pretty shitty (especially when he gets his chad variable up) it's just most people don't consistently take these options to brush people off or antagonize them. And they don't consider their character fucking everything that moves and cheating on their partner a bad trait. :whistle:

I have a save file specifically for ultra douche Ian and ultra bitch Lena, where they actively go out of their way to fuck anything that breaths, but also choose the antagonistic option unless there is specifically a lust option to override it. It's pretty wild just how bad they can get.

I swear I'm the only person here that actually likes Louise lol.
You're not. It's pretty old now, but I have a whole post going over why I think that Louise was at the time a pretty sympathetic character (here) and that she is a better character than most people seem to give her credit for. But I also feel like there was more nuance to her character then and the subsequent chapters have flanderized her a tad to being more of the woman everyone here rages over. Doesn't mean I still don't think she's a good character, but she's unfortunately been lessened by either due to necessity of streamlining or because Eva's focus has been elsewhere.

Also, when did Mike join the MMA tournament? Was that a secret update in this chapter, or did I miss that in a prior update?
 
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I swear I'm the only person here that actually likes Louise lol.
I like her too, but mostly when she's obedient, that's why I always choose to go look for her over going with Mike, although it's not unexpected that Louise seeks affection from Ian just to show a little Interest in her, it was very fun to see that she gets horny just by talking nice to him. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Even Ian can be pretty shitty (especially when he gets his chad variable up) it's just most people don't consistently take these options to brush people off or antagonize them. And they don't consider their character fucking everything that moves and cheating on their partner a bad trait. :whistle:
Sure, but Ian is a player is optional, we can make him whatever we want, that's why we looking at Ian from different perspective, not like other characters.
 
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Also, when did Mike join the MMA tournament? Was that a secret update in this chapter, or did I miss that in a prior update?
This was one of tweaks/fixes added with this update. It's not unusual for ORS updates to touch up previous chapters/content (it just makes it easier to overlook just how much work EK puts into these things)
 

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I didn't get the time to do that run, but for tormenting Perry in my new run I'll do that. I'll let you know if anything changes if we don't pay that clown.
Edit - Oh, ffive already posted the codes. Thanks mate.
Thanks. So it does contribute to Perry's success. Sabotage time :devilish:
Sure, but Ian is a player is optional, we can make him whatever we want, that's why we looking at Ian from different perspective, not like other characters.
I always favor having an explicit choice when it comes to this sort of thing, but given that we can manipulate the outcome I am okay-ish with this version of making a background for Lena.

I can't help but feel like it now conflicts a bit with how Ivy talks to Lena in the early game somewhat. Lustful Lena is someone with a lot of experience now so Ivy shouldn't be so concerned for her when it comes to casual cock. Arguably most of that is based on Lena's reaction towards her breakup with Axel, but still, lustful Lena needs no pointers lady. She's been busier than you it seems! :ROFLMAO:
 

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This was one of tweaks/fixes added with this update. It's not unusual for ORS updates to touch up previous chapters/content (it just makes it easier to overlook just how much work EK puts into these things)
I figured it was. Typically when EK updates the game I play just the new content from the update, but then I'll go back through my two primary routes and replay those from a much earlier chapter to see if EK added anything, like for instance Mike is now in the MMA tournament. I ended up not doing that on the prior update though, which is why I asked if it was added this update on if it got added with the final version of the last update.

When the game is finally complete then I'll basically restart all of my save files, because I'm sure that there are probably several more that I've missed in the bad boy and slut routes as neither of them are primary save files for me.
 

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I'm afraid i have no idea, this is the first time i see the saves stored in such format. Are you by chance using some kind of a mod?
I have one suspicion: Is Lena aware that Ian fucked Cindy in your playthrough ? In my playthrough she is, and she is wondering whether he is still cheating on her. Might this be the reason why I do not get the threesome idea with Eli ?
 

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Is it possible to do a playthrough where Ian & Lena don't hang out together and have almost no contact with each other?
 

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I have one suspicion: Is Lena aware that Ian fucked Cindy in your playthrough ? In my playthrough she is, and she is wondering whether he is still cheating on her. Might this be the reason why I do not get the threesome idea with Eli ?
In my run, both were not cheating. I mean lesbian sex doesn't count, so I just made Lena Bi.
 

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I have one suspicion: Is Lena aware that Ian fucked Cindy in your playthrough ? In my playthrough she is, and she is wondering whether he is still cheating on her. Might this be the reason why I do not get the threesome idea with Eli ?
Not really, no. The only reason you wouldn't be seeing these additional lines is if the conditions for them aren't met, but this would require the relevant flags (open relationship, Lena/Ian relationship status etc) to get somehow reset.

You could probably check it for yourself, if you enable Renpy console. (here is info how to do it, e.g.: ) You could then type the name of given variable and see its state.
 

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Is it possible to do a playthrough where Ian & Lena don't hang out together and have almost no contact with each other?
Well, you can avoid sex and some social situations can be manoeuvred so only one is present, for example one of the early park scenes with Holly, Ian can be away from that scene if he chooses to meet with Alison instead. During most of the general story beats where they're both present you can't avoid them being in the same room though.
 
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