MF_DOOM

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It’s not at all clear to me why Eva brought Gillian back into the script. In some AVNs, "getting your ex back" is a popular plot move, and some developers write this line well, making the player feel empathy for their ex, writing out why they broke up, making both of them feel guilty, for example. And then going with good redemption line. And indeed, sometimes exes are made so cool that you start to like them.
In Gillian's case...there is none of this. I was expecting something interesting when she first showed up, but all we got was: "Hi Ian, long time no see, blah blah blah...I was sad without you blah blah blah, I didn't want it to be like this came out." Plus a cuck dream if we haven't deleted the photos. And it's all. Very weak. If Gillian is just a plot device for the cuck Ian path, then that's too bad and her return is a pointless waste of development time. So for now: FUCK YOU, GILLIAN.
I may love redheads, but not to that extent.
Are you really surprised?
EK loves her cheap soap opera drama for the sake of drama.
 

Andrea9999

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Yes, but I wanted to have a hate sex scene no reconciliation between e
Ian and Gillian, plus if the boyfriend was Mike a good excuse to the break his face, have been interesting? :unsure::LOL::poop::LOL::ROFLMAO:
It would be interesting and symmetric to have a Lena/Ian relationship wherein Lena cheats with Gillian's lover and Ian cheats with CHerry.
 
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Xupuzulla

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Gillian did decent in the popularity polls,even doing better than characters with actual content like Cherry and Louise.
Does this means she would get sex scenes?only EK knows BUT if fucking Marcel got his dick sucked after one good result in the popularity polls,anything is possible:BootyTime:
 

DeemLeem12

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Gillian did decent in the popularity polls,even doing better than characters with actual content like Cherry and Louise.
Does this means she would get sex scenes?only EK knows BUT if fucking Marcel got his dick sucked after one good result in the popularity polls,anything is possible:BootyTime:
Marcel needs another good result so HOLLY CAN FINALLY GET THE BLACK PIPE!
 

Gicoo

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Eva did capture the turmoil of a broken heart getting into a relationship again; beautifully.
In the first chapters absolutely, the introspection of Ian and Lenas inability to move on and how they hesitate going for a new partner while their environment pushes them to do so is done delicately. It emphasizes Evas first original vision, two lost souls coming together.
Over the course of the game, this theme is extremely muddled if not removed by all the porn. I'm far from being against the latter butthe greatest dissonance of the game is Ian and Lena being those fragile hurtful souls... and then having the ability to fuck every person in their vicinity with glee and zero remorse. You have Ian slowly healing from Gillian, someone who even occasionale appears in the game through photos and dreams, and then have him doing the exact same Gillian and her affair did by fucking Cindy. Now, being cheated on doesn't disqualify you as a potential cheater yourself, heck you can give them the impetus because they were cheated themselves, but I lose very fast any sympathy and relatability if he casually fucks Minerva or Alison while having a sweet romance with Holly or good Lena, shitting on his partners and the partners of his affair (Wade, Minervas husband). Its good on the fetish side since I love girls stealing from other girls, but for the narrative and character development its trash. The same applies with Lena who loathes Cherry and Axel, yet does the same if not worse by fucking Mike and being very expressive and gleefull about how she is superior to his girl.

Maybe you can't have it both and porn and plot doesn't match? Maybe Eva had a serious story in mind but their audience demands and pays for porn so Eva quickly drifted back in the old, easier to gratifying way?
 

Gicoo

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Pretty much the entire male cast is what you just described, yes. It's been one of the longest running complaints about this game.
Yes.
GGGB got Dave, Eric usually redeems himself. The boss got a wholesome route. Dad was fucked up by design but technically wholesome. Even scumbag Jack could be purified. There is no chance that Axel, Robert or Mike are willing to change their ways and turn out aus good as Jack could.
Even some casual hookups like Doug or Mark weren't scum.

And GGGB was the game in which you could date murderers and rapists.
 

MF_DOOM

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Yes.
GGGB got Dave, Eric usually redeems himself. The boss got a wholesome route. Dad was fucked up by design but technically wholesome. Even scumbag Jack could be purified. There is no chance that Axel, Robert or Mike are willing to change their ways and turn out aus good as Jack could.
Even some casual hookups like Doug or Mark weren't scum.

And GGGB was the game in which you could date murderers and rapists.
Even Tyron could be a big softie in the end.
 

tbs9090

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In the first chapters absolutely, the introspection of Ian and Lenas inability to move on and how they hesitate going for a new partner while their environment pushes them to do so is done delicately. It emphasizes Evas first original vision, two lost souls coming together.
Over the course of the game, this theme is extremely muddled if not removed by all the porn. I'm far from being against the latter butthe greatest dissonance of the game is Ian and Lena being those fragile hurtful souls... and then having the ability to fuck every person in their vicinity with glee and zero remorse. You have Ian slowly healing from Gillian, someone who even occasionale appears in the game through photos and dreams, and then have him doing the exact same Gillian and her affair did by fucking Cindy. Now, being cheated on doesn't disqualify you as a potential cheater yourself, heck you can give them the impetus because they were cheated themselves, but I lose very fast any sympathy and relatability if he casually fucks Minerva or Alison while having a sweet romance with Holly or good Lena, shitting on his partners and the partners of his affair (Wade, Minervas husband). Its good on the fetish side since I love girls stealing from other girls, but for the narrative and character development its trash. The same applies with Lena who loathes Cherry and Axel, yet does the same if not worse by fucking Mike and being very expressive and gleefull about how she is superior to his girl.

Maybe you can't have it both and porn and plot doesn't match? Maybe Eva had a serious story in mind but their audience demands and pays for porn so Eva quickly drifted back in the old, easier to gratifying way?
Agreed the earlier chapters do have a different tone compared to what we get in later chapters, so i definitely wouldn't be surprised if EK just chose to go with whats easiest, and just decided to make this into GGGB2 since that's probably what most of her fans wanted in the first place.

Then again maybe EK thought it wouldn't make sense to keep that tone throughout the whole game and all of this is going according to her vision.
 

GokutheG

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In the first chapters absolutely, the introspection of Ian and Lenas inability to move on and how they hesitate going for a new partner while their environment pushes them to do so is done delicately. It emphasizes Evas first original vision, two lost souls coming together.
Over the course of the game, this theme is extremely muddled if not removed by all the porn. I'm far from being against the latter butthe greatest dissonance of the game is Ian and Lena being those fragile hurtful souls... and then having the ability to fuck every person in their vicinity with glee and zero remorse. You have Ian slowly healing from Gillian, someone who even occasionale appears in the game through photos and dreams, and then have him doing the exact same Gillian and her affair did by fucking Cindy. Now, being cheated on doesn't disqualify you as a potential cheater yourself, heck you can give them the impetus because they were cheated themselves, but I lose very fast any sympathy and relatability if he casually fucks Minerva or Alison while having a sweet romance with Holly or good Lena, shitting on his partners and the partners of his affair (Wade, Minervas husband). Its good on the fetish side since I love girls stealing from other girls, but for the narrative and character development its trash. The same applies with Lena who loathes Cherry and Axel, yet does the same if not worse by fucking Mike and being very expressive and gleefull about how she is superior to his girl.

Maybe you can't have it both and porn and plot doesn't match? Maybe Eva had a serious story in mind but their audience demands and pays for porn so Eva quickly drifted back in the old, easier to gratifying way?
The problem with the 2 lost souls finding each other premise is that it's mainly written for Lena and Ian. The problem with this is that there are people who have no interest in Lena being romantically involved with Ian. I thought the dev went too heavy handed in trying to tell the player that they are meant to get together. For example if you don't have Lena kiss Ian on the 2nd date Lena is blocked from being able to open up to Ian about Axel. Another scenario is if Lena tells Ivy that she isn't interested in Ian they automatically start dating after the 3rd date. To me that sort of diminished the story's premise if you don't want them to get together.

Honestly I think the whole heartbreak from cheating angle is also diminished when both mcs can engage in cheating themselves. Personally I feel a more interesting scenario would have been that Ian had proposed to Gillian and right before the wedding she ran off due to cold feet. Not only would it be a fresher premise and increase the weight of Ian being hesitant to enter a new serious relationship it would also help him to not look like such a hypocrite if he does go down the cheating route(s).

I also had an idea about Lena's breakup due to Axel's anger and violence issues but I don't think that's something the dev would want to tackle in this story. I just wish that if Lena warns Cindy about Axel that it was tracked.
 

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There is already foreshadowing for Holly with Marcel. She will be throttled by Marcel at some point
It can also happen that Marcel and Jeremy grab Holly where they tear her clothes and stick their huge tongues deep in her beautiful holes. When Holly can't resist anymore, she will have an orgasm so powerful that she will urinate and tears of happiness will come out. and it is the moment where Marcel and Jeremy are going to forcefully penetrate her vagina and her mouth moving wildly where she can barely breathe and when they are finishing Ivy appears and takes a selfie and labels it "bbc cream chinese finger trap" Would it be understood? :unsure: :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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So, I did a quick search and didn't turn anything up so I'm not sure if this only happened to me, but I had Lena do the concert thing and not the life drawing in order to help out the cafe. However now, in Ch 11, they're talking about hosting "another" life drawing event at the cafe. I'm pretty sure there was never a first one...
 
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