VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[| Vee |]

For those who wondering about how we will know if AxelxCindy is would be on Cindy's trip or not, by by these means

1. Cindy may come from her trip as Axel's GF(low chance) or changed as we see Alison but not like Alison.
2. Cindy may be going on same yacht and beaches where Lena is going and they may be rivals competing for same project or a collab/joint photoshoot session
3. we may hear from Cindy that she's breaking up with Wade and got a date with Axel next week (after coming from trip).

Can't think of anymore(yawning).

4. Cindy may post something on her social media or if Lena an Ivy are on same yacht and beaches Ivy may post something or tells Ian after the trip

 

[Hahn1900]

Well... iam not a fan of alphas/betas and such, most of the tiome i avoid to play those... i got bored and thought "ah what the fuck its ORS"

Started chapter 11 again for my Lena/Ian route, and came to chapter 12... so far so good, Ian goes to the mall, buys a nice gift for Lena thinking about Gillian for a moment and so on and than out of nowhere Ian visits Cindy and they fucked... huh? In this playthrough Ian didnt do anything with Cindy. She throws him out before the Axel Photoshoot and thats it... so, Bug it is. Will just skip the scene and hope its just one bug without consequences, but that is some major bug here.

So... yeah... its a reminder to not do alphas/betas and such again. I recommend everyone to just wait for the final release.

 

[| Vee |]

1. I think the only way that happens is if Ian completely ignores Cindy and Wade's problems and doesn't pursue anything sexual or romantic with Cindy.
2. Thank fuck I'm not going to find out because my Lena rejected Billy's proposition. The guy is obnoxious and talks out of his ass.
3. Much like option 1, it should in theory, be based on the choices made by the player. But if Axel is still lamenting over Lena even after getting Cindy... then he needs the ass whooping of a lifetime. As if he doesn't need one already.

IMO Billy's trip will be a just a porno trope nothing more(forgot who already mentioned about going deep in porn industry).

What I think will be interesting to see is if Lena is a druggie but faithful and/or just lesbian how will she restrain herself, with Ivy perhaps?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I don't think I have played Lena as anything but a whore so I can't speak to how she is if you play her faithful to Ian.
I just have a feeling your playthrough is going to be really boring if you play it that way

Basically, you miss out a lot of sex scenes, and just get the existing scenes with Ian. It also depends on whether you allow Lena to have sex with Louise, Holly and Ivy, because apart from one scene with Ivy, the game doesn't seem to class those scenes as cheating.

The main difference though, is it forces Lena to do without Seymour's money. And his animosity towards her, means that she's blacklisted from virtually every modelling job in Baluart. So Lena really has to make money wherever she can.

If you open up their relationship though, then it presents the possibility of them having threesomes, depending on what Ian and Lena said were their sexual fantasies, during Ivy's birthday party. So far this has led to a threesome with Louise, if Ian and Lena said they both wanted a threesome with another woman. But if Lena fantasises about having sex with two guys, after that threesome she asks Ian if he'd be willing to do that for her, and Ian says he'll think about it. So I assume that's going to become an option down the line ( and I can't imagine it will be anybody but Jeremy). So with an open relationship, it increases the sex options, whilst remaining technically faithful.

 

[Xupuzulla]

The only reason Ian exists in this game is to be cucked by the real mc
I would sissify him given half a chance and lock him in a room with Axel

Would be a fitting end for this fop

Based.
We all know Lena is the real mc,even the patreon polls show this.
The tournament,the book contest,all a charade for the real canon path.
The loser simp cuck Ian path.

 

[| Vee |]

For what it's worth, the variable which stores this choice is documented as follows:

default v12_cindy_rel = 0                # How Ian handles the conversation w/cindy (ian_cindy_love: 2-set boundaries/1-trust her/0-breakup) /// (ian_cindy_dating: 3-confess love/ 2-play it cool/1-tense/0-breakup)

So, the option to "set some ground rules" is apparently there, although perhaps the way EK chooses to deliver it is different from how you'd have done it. The option in question is

            "{image=icon_charisma.webp}Play it cool" if ian_charisma > 7 or ian_charisma > 6 and ian_chad > 3:

followed by

            "{image=icon_wits.webp}You're playing with me..." if ian_wits > 7 or ian_wits > 6 and v12_cindy_rel == 1 or ian_wits > 5 and v12_cindy_rel == 2:

Alright so it seems in ian_cindy_love you can get v12_cindy_rel = 2 (setting boundries) max and on ian_cindy_dating you can get v12_cindy_rel = 3 (confessing love) or v12_cindy_rel = 2 (playing it cool). That means the path of both ian_cindy_love and ian_cindy_dating
at v12_cindy_rel = 2 would be same down the line but if EK wants to keep them separate than she will use check ian_cindy_love.

Ian playing it cool may not be endangered it seems.
Now this would be interesting to see if that will be the case. What do you think?

 

[rainnnnnn]

so the beta will have Lena content?
or is this the end of the update?

 

[Hahn1900]

so the beta will have Lena content?
or is this the end of the update?

I got the feeling its not even half of the real update. Even only for ian it was very short. As i said earlier, i normaly avoid alphas and such, and i know why i do so most of the time... i tried it anyways this time and it was more or less a regret, its cleary far from finished and has some major bugs too which dont have to make it in a release, not even an alpha.

Well, lesson learned again, no aplhas and betas for me i should have sticked with that.

 

[patatovaldes]

Hello, is there a path combining fidelity and swinging?

 

[MaliPizdek]

if Ivy, Lena or Cherry are on the same boat with Cindy, how well do you think they will get along?
i guess any other option other then "i trust you" will send Cindy on the porn/drugs/prostitution path

 

[MF_DOOM]

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[AM97]

So how do I get the Jessica scene ?

 

[Badboll]

I got the feeling its not even half of the real update. Even only for ian it was very short. As i said earlier, i normaly avoid alphas and such, and i know why i do so most of the time... i tried it anyways this time and it was more or less a regret, its cleary far from finished and has some major bugs too which dont have to make it in a release, not even an alpha.

Well, lesson learned again, no aplhas and betas for me i should have sticked with that.

From what I understood this is just the prologue to chapter 12, but it's probably not even half of chapter 12.
Eva is not releasing as much content as quickly anymore and with the scope of the game being as big as it is, I assume the writing part takes a lot longer than it used to, the coding nightmare that has to tie everything together on top I don't even want to imagine. While I disagree with some of the story elements of this game, it's clear that Eva does put in a lot of work to make most things make sense. Might fall short here and there, but everything that happens has to tie together and there are tons of side stories going parallel that is based on choices Lena and Ian make. That changes what characters say and do and certain choices you can pick at times. But yes, when it comes to games on this site, alphas and betas should most of the time always be avoided. All games here not marked complete are technically alpha in progress builds and if you wanna save headache, not playing anything until it's marked abandoned or complete is the correct choice.
abandonned games will make you sad more often than not though, since if they are good you know it's never gonna get more content.
But there are probably a ton worth playing. If you wanna risk getting disappointed there wont be more content in them

 

[Badboll]

Basically, you miss out a lot of sex scenes, and just get the existing scenes with Ian. It also depends on whether you allow Lena to have sex with Louise, Holly and Ivy, because apart from one scene with Ivy, the game doesn't seem to class those scenes as cheating.

The main difference though, is it forces Lena to do without Seymour's money. And his animosity towards her, means that she's blacklisted from virtually every modelling job in Baluart. So Lena really has to make money wherever she can.

If you open up their relationship though, then it presents the possibility of them having threesomes, depending on what Ian and Lena said were their sexual fantasies, during Ivy's birthday party. So far this has led to a threesome with Louise, if Ian and Lena said they both wanted a threesome with another woman. But if Lena fantasises about having sex with two guys, after that threesome she asks Ian if he'd be willing to do that for her, and Ian says he'll think about it. So I assume that's going to become an option down the line ( and I can't imagine it will be anybody but Jeremy). So with an open relationship, it increases the sex options, whilst remaining technically faithful.

Yeah the Seymour angle is yet to really be explained. We all know he's a dipshit, maybe you have to work with Emma later to take him down and "save" Lena depending on what route you are on for her.
Many of the sex scenes you miss with Robert mike etc are copy pasted from the Ian ones anyway. Not a fan of that but hey it is what it is I guess. If this game is ever going to be fully complete it's gonna take years. I assume there is going to be an eventual "complete" slapped on it and it's never really going to get there. Like a certain other game did while still having over 50% of it's endings not done.
I do look forward to the day this game is done though, no matter what I think of some aspects of it, it's one of the best ones out there and it's worth waiting for.

 

[fatpussy123]

For what it's worth, the variable which stores this choice is documented as follows:

default v12_cindy_rel = 0                # How Ian handles the conversation w/cindy (ian_cindy_love: 2-set boundaries/1-trust her/0-breakup) /// (ian_cindy_dating: 3-confess love/ 2-play it cool/1-tense/0-breakup)

So, the option to "set some ground rules" is apparently there, although perhaps the way EK chooses to deliver it is different from how you'd have done it. The option in question is

            "{image=icon_charisma.webp}Play it cool" if ian_charisma > 7 or ian_charisma > 6 and ian_chad > 3:

followed by

            "{image=icon_wits.webp}You're playing with me..." if ian_wits > 7 or ian_wits > 6 and v12_cindy_rel == 1 or ian_wits > 5 and v12_cindy_rel == 2:

So after the charisma option, witts option > hearts option?

 

[soprano31]

Ребята, пожалуйста, может кто-нибудь прислать мне фото Элисон в образе блондинки с пирсингом?

 

[DavidLegion]

Guys, please, can someone send me a photo Alison as a blonde with piercings?(corrected xd )

 

[Hahn1900]

My bigger issue is the contrast in dialogue between different playstyles; if you play Ian as a supposed "Chad player", he still has these whiny insecure introspectives, like "Well, I probably should come clean about my other relationship to her" whereas Lena has the exact opposite in the same situation, stuff like "He'll never know how much I think about Axel/Mike". In other words, you CAN play the game as an Ian player and Lena faithful, but everything feels off in the dialogue, and it's pretty obvious what the "canon" is meant to be.

Nah i think youre not really right here... i have several playthroughs, and my favorite is just a "boring" lovestory between Lena and Ian, both faithful. They both have mental scars from her previous relationships and how those ended.

In my optinion this AVN is one of those where you have to make a "plan" before you play it an stick to it. You want Lena and Ian to be nice people, no whores and faithful to each other? Play like that and they are. Every little choice counts here. Some Lust, Posh or Chad Points to many and both start to getting thaughts they shouldnt get if they would be faithful and not slutty. Especially Lena, Ian not sooo much.

Basically, avoid being with Ivy too much as Lena, of course no Seymour and no flirting with others. Keep the Photoshoots modest, and you have a Lena without any slutty thaughts, tenndencies or behaivior. Around chapter 9 after the Ian/Lena Relationship got serious she more than once has the thaughts that this is the real thing for her and she is finally healing from Axel and such.

But its kinda too easy to trigger some sluttyness for Lena i have to admit. Sometimes just being a too good friend for Ivy is already enough to get her going, or simply to masturbate instead of practicing on playing the guitar. More often than not those things trigger behaivior or just thaughts, and i think there should have be done some adjustments in that regard. But nontheless if you always stick to the "two goody shoes" choices in every regard, all slutty thaughts are gone after a while.

Its clear to me that she was a corrupted sex slave for Axel in the whole relatiionship. And it seems that she did enjoy many things there. Like being dominated or even choked ect. But if you go the other way with her now, avoiding all this, she kinda realised that this is the way she wants things to be.

Of course if you go the slutty path or let her be dominated ect... she enjoys this too most of the time and this is her way.

ITs in the players hand to shape Lena. And if you play her the complete faithful role without anything slutty, it works perfectly.

For Ian though... the "chad" or "manwhore" things doesnt work well i think. I agree, more than once he has regrets and such. Its obvious to me that this is "out of character" for him. I played a playthrough like that until the end of chp 11. But i dropped it now. Even in chp 11 he still is a little whiney here and there which doesnt fit the route i was playing at all.

Lena instead works perfectly as a faithful kinda "innocent" girl with many baggage from her previous realtionship, or the entirely oppostite "whore" works as well, though its not my thing (bla yeah iam a snowflake)

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

there are still people who believe in Lena as a fair path, it doesn't exist, Lena is the bad character of the game, the slut is the one who has mental problems, she repeats it many times in her monologues, Ian is the good counterpart, the classic good guy, he a word for everyone and listens to everyone, she could easily live under her father's wing doing what he tells her, but she plays according to her passions, Lena on the other hand is messed up, due to her mother, her ex Axel, also the bad influence of Ivy and Luisa is unable to be constant, she often leaves others who influence her, she is the most hateful character in the saga together with Jeremy, Jeremy is another dickhead, he thinks only with the brain of his penis and would screw all the women without any respect for no one, that's why they are compatible as bad characters with Lena, Axel is the classic handsome playboy, therefore a role that suits his character, but nothing more, Ward the classic God come down to earth, but here too nothing to be surprised , in reality there are many like him, people who do what they want with money and power, the others have very subjective characters, it is clear that Alison is in love with Ian, but she is too proud and afraid to take the right step because she is afraid of ruining her friendship with him too, in fact many times she tells Ian that Jeremy is the second choice because the first one doesn't come forward (IAN),
everything proven that she always offers to meet him, or to be flashy for him, Holly is described as a 12 year old girl who is enraptured by every new thing she sees, she is not really in love with Ian, she is just looking for someone good or authoritarian who you drive her, so first he meets Ian who makes him feel all those things, but it's not love it's just a comfort zone state he has, Wade they made him too passive, despite being the beauty of the company, he found his kryptonite in Cindy, then gradually there are other characters for the supporting roles, Perry is more of the narrator almost of gossip, Ciliega is a good girl, she had the thankless task of falling in love with the wrong person, then we have all the extra men of Lena, Mike, Robert (the asshole), Billy, are only useful to the game to have sex with Lena, here's another reason why she is a slut, there are characters who exist only to fuck her, Ian at least hangs out with the girls in the story who have reason to be there, this highlights double standards, they are two parallel stories with two opposing characters, they started with the same problems of love and work, but Ian faces them in a more honest way, while Lena is completely opposite, she fucks like a slut, she can even stealing the bar takings of those poor employers, which shows what a person he is, he can choose to follow Ward and be supported like the whore he is. A halfway good game in some aspects.

 

[Sethmsf]

Nah i think youre not really right here... i have several playthroughs, and my favorite is just a "boring" lovestory between Lena and Ian, both faithful. They both have mental scars from her previous relationships and how those ended.

In my optinion this AVN is one of those where you have to make a "plan" before you play it an stick to it. You want Lena and Ian to be nice people, no whores and faithful to each other? Play like that and they are. Every little choice counts here. Some Lust, Posh or Chad Points to many and both start to getting thaughts they shouldnt get if they would be faithful and not slutty. Especially Lena, Ian not sooo much.

Basically, avoid being with Ivy too much as Lena, of course no Seymour and no flirting with others. Keep the Photoshoots modest, and you have a Lena without any slutty thaughts, tenndencies or behaivior. Around chapter 9 after the Ian/Lena Relationship got serious she more than once has the thaughts that this is the real thing for her and she is finally healing from Axel and such.

But its kinda too easy to trigger some sluttyness for Lena i have to admit. Sometimes just being a too good friend for Ivy is already enough to get her going, or simply to masturbate instead of practicing on playing the guitar. More often than not those things trigger behaivior or just thaughts, and i think there should have be done some adjustments in that regard. But nontheless if you always stick to the "two goody shoes" choices in every regard, all slutty thaughts are gone after a while.

Its clear to me that she was a corrupted sex slave for Axel in the whole relatiionship. And it seems that she did enjoy many things there. Like being dominated or even choked ect. But if you go the other way with her now, avoiding all this, she kinda realised that this is the way she wants things to be.

Of course if you go the slutty path or let her be dominated ect... she enjoys this too most of the time and this is her way.

ITs in the players hand to shape Lena. And if you play her the complete faithful role without anything slutty, it works perfectly.

For Ian though... the "chad" or "manwhore" things doesnt work well i think. I agree, more than once he has regrets and such. Its obvious to me that this is "out of character" for him. I played a playthrough like that until the end of chp 11. But i dropped it now. Even in chp 11 he still is a little whiney here and there which doesnt fit the route i was playing at all.

Lena instead works perfectly as a faithful kinda "innocent" girl with many baggage from her previous realtionship, or the entirely oppostite "whore" works as well, though its not my thing (bla yeah iam a snowflake)

In my main path of Lena x Ian, they are both loyal, they both have had their things with other people until formalizing the relationship. Lena has StalkFap only with sexy selfies (no private content), they both enjoy sexuality with each other without restrictions, Lena likes that Ian dominates him and is rough with her and Ian likes to do it, they enjoy his exhibitionism too and after all That's it, they have their aftercare as a couple in love. As for Mike, Lena fucked him once, realized it was wrong and preferred it to be a one-time thing. Ian has his Chad moments, Lena her posh moments and I'm not mistaken, her blowjob skills maximized to Ian's delighr, all without a drop of infidelity and taking care of his/her friends