VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Leonardovisk]

I can help EK for free if she agree with me about some changes in story:

Jack punch the hell of Axel.
Stan get hit by a train.
Emma get hit by a truck.
Robert get hit by a bus.
Ian joins the army and be gone.
Jack is the new male char.
No “ahegau” faces for my beloved Lena.

 

[jaylop09]

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I like the top, but those pants/leggings?? are not doing it for me. If EK does add this outfit she'd have to resign the lower half.

If there's ever a scene involving this outfit....boots stay on.

 

[Gicoo]

Having name and reputation makes it riskier for the artist to accept doing all work first without any payment and thus if anything increase reluctance to accept such arrangement, if they have any brains. Because it makes it easier for person with name and reputation not to pay shit, and simply shrug off claims of cheating the no-name artist out of their money. And it can take years for such abuse to catch up with them, if it does at all.

Doesn't Evakiss has some sort of adress or something else for verification? EvaKiss is on Patreon, Steam, Itch-io etc. So its far easier to make a business contract with them rather than two Anons.
The better your reputation, the more you have to lose. And if enough tricked artist make a stink about an artist, it will hurt their reputation and other artists will be inclined to not work with Eva. Networking is a thing, artist have blogs etc. to build up a name to suggest integrity.

Ultimately, I'm inclined to agree with palmtree and come to two conclusions, both of them not boding ill for the games development: Either Eva is lying or incompetent.

 

[palmtrees89]

We don't know the details of her working relationship with the artist so I wouldn't immediately say Eva made such a massive blunder or is lying about it.

It could be that she has been working with this artist for the past few chapters and didn't expect them to just vanish with the money previously paid. Perhaps they get paid on a monthly wage and again the artist didn't respond in all of February.

Theres too much unknown and it's not like EK said no progress was made, so it honestly doesn't matter.

Sure, all possible. I'm not saying she's lying, just that it's weird as most companies/businesses pay commissions after delivery. A monthly wage is very unlikely unless it's some kind of continuous work project, but I'm guessing she only asks for certain scenes/amount of drawings as future chapters aren't planned out, so there isn't much of a reason to pay on a monthly basis.

Anyway, the real question is why she didn't feel like there's reason enough to post status updates considering all of those things happening at once, considerably slowing the work process down (hence why she said there isn't much to report in regards to the game itself). If only for her paying supporters it would make sense to let them know what's going on. I think that's a fair thing to say...no?

That said, EK is one of my favorite artists, so it's not like I'm going up the walls over it.

 

[Leongen43]

Having name and reputation makes it riskier for the artist to accept doing all work first without any payment and thus if anything increase reluctance to accept such arrangement, if they have any brains. Because it makes it easier for person with name and reputation not to pay shit, and simply shrug off claims of cheating the no-name artist out of their money. And it can take years for such abuse to catch up with them, if it does at all.

It is a situation that can occur and EK is not the only one that happened to him. There are always risks in this type of hiring, moment!!, I think I discovered the guy who scammed him, could it be?

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[Krysis_here]

After reading EK's post, this thread right now.
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What about a mood swinger/changer? Some Characters Might be Happy with the New EK update, right? Some also happy with the polls Against Ian as One Character wants to see him Crying

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[BlandChili]

When I was building the first iteration of Our Red String I went through several designs, in this case I was trying out different text boxes. I also created some extra outfits for some characters that were never used (but I might use some of them in the future).

Are you interested in seeing more discarded designs and prototypes from the inception of ORS? If so, let me know and I'll make a post for my patrons; at least I get to share something with you while I keep working on Chapter 12.

Hm, that outfit kinda looks like something my older sister would wear in the mid to late 2000's, like Destiny's Child or something.

 

[ffive]

The better your reputation, the more you have to lose. And if enough tricked artist make a stink about an artist, it will hurt their reputation and other artists will be inclined to not work with Eva. Networking is a thing, artist have blogs etc. to build up a name to suggest integrity.

You'd think so, and meantime Donald Trumps and Elon Musks of this world are laughing all the way to the bank as they routinely dodge paying their subcontractors for the work and services rendered, which doesn't stop new hopefuls from working with them "because they have name and reputation they wouldn't want to risk". Yes, yes, Trump's malpractices did catch up with him... some 20-30 years later.

 

[SearingFive]

Want about a mood swinger? Some Characters Might be Happy with the New EK update, right? Some also happy with the polls Against Ian as One Character wants to see him Crying

Spoiler: Beautiful Character

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It's actually good that EK broke the radio silence to let us know what was going on. Even if the news was sad it's still better than nothing. I don't mind playing as Ian and I think most people preferred both MCs rather than Ian solo.
Ursula

 

[BlandChili]

You'd think so, and meantime Donald Trumps and Elon Musks of this world are laughing all the way to the bank as they routinely dodge paying their subcontractors for the work and services rendered, which doesn't stop new hopefuls from working with them "because they have name and reputation they wouldn't want to risk". Yes, yes, Trump's malpractices did catch up with him... some 20-30 years later.

Fake it until you make it and then, just because you can, keep faking it until you kick it.

 

[ffive]

Fake it until you make it and then, just because you can, keep faking it until you kick it.

Pretty much. Having name and reputation only means you have more weight to throw around and makes it easier to trample small people who lack either.

 

[Krysis_here]

It's actually good that EK broke the radio silence to let us know what was going on. Even if the news was sad it's still better than nothing. I don't mind playing as Ian and I think most people preferred both MCs rather than Ian solo.
Ursula

But Ursula Tried her best to make him Cry, isn't it? But Ian changed her game by Fucking her in different Positions with getting some Backbone cracking sounds from Minerva , As per EK actually did a great job by speaking out about updates, in the End, We want some Horny Content, Right? Maybe Ian can watch Jess Porn and Cum and Sleep

 

[SearingFive]

in the End, We want some Horny Content, Right?

Nah, I want the story to progress. Horny is the consolation prize.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

That's why you pay artists for the work that's done, not upfront. Not sure why EK would pay someone for nothing. First time I hear of that happening in the VN scene. Usually you'd get samples from artists you try out, then commission sets of renders or whatever art you want, and upon delivery you pay. This is weird. Plus she's got the flu, remodeling of her home office...all at once.

One would think that all of these things were enough fuel to justify status updates instead of not posting anything.

Prepayment. This is everywhere with modern payments. Many require prepayment for delivery, for work, for purchases, especially large ones. And AVNs are still a very niche category; you most likely don’t know the people you outsource to and never see them. It's all about trust and promises. Therefore, it is not surprising that the artist could ask for advance payment. It's strange that they just worked together for a while and only now cheated.
In any case, it’s good that Eva released the status “guys, everything was bad, problems as always, but I was able to move forward a little, here’s the background,” rather than continue the silence.

 

[ffive]

It's strange that they just worked together for a while and only now cheated.

I imagine it was less cheating, and more of a pretty typical case of amateur freelancer who found themselves in over their head with the workload, and overcome with stress decided to just disappear instead of coming clean. "Running away with (advance) money" would be more of a side-effect than the actual intention.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Try July. I bet EK will take time to properly vet the replacement help. I really thought that a quarterly release was possible this time.

Yeah i was in full copium mode when i made that post,this year is going to be shit,the radio silence was the warning

 

[SerHawkes]

So the artist 'ghost's EK... Supposedly.

Now, there could be some validity here in EK's wording. Perhaps the artist she hired has ghosted them, for what ever reason. Or perhaps the artist is simple working over time to respond, or perhaps having a life moment that has taken them away. We don't know.

Same time though, naturally for me I don't fully believe all the words EK puts out in status updates. Hell, with all the things she says she plans to do and not do only to do the not do and not do her plans, I have some measure of doubt and reluctance on the statement here.

 

[Leongen43]

Nah, I want the story to progress. Horny is the consolation prize.

But what the hell , the sex scenes are very important, they are not a consolation prize, they are the reward for doing things well, they are a fundamental part of the story, don't forget that ORS is a porn game, I guess sex with Robert could be consolation sex, right?

 

[dolfe67]

Try July. I bet EK will take time to properly vet the replacement help. I really thought that a quarterly release was possible this time.

And it's only Ian's part

 

[punisher33]

Eva on the next status report :

Hi guys
There's not much I can talk about at this point.

Thanks for your support :=)

LOL