VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 ALPHA] [Eva Kiss]

[Prince of Depression]

That's something I can't deny to eva, she made the game with the most varied decisions I've seen on this site. You could build a tree with all its branches and roots with all the decisions there are.

It would be interesting to see how Eve does it. Planning, writing, creative process behind it, that sort of thing. A lot of developers could learn a lot from it.

 

[Andrea9999]

Read the lyrics of the music and look for the rhyming word, it's not that hard.

It does not rhy

It would be interesting to see how Eve does it. Planning, writing, creative process behind it, that sort of thing. A lot of developers could learn a lot from it.

I am curious as to what she draws and what others draw.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Yeah, i loved to see Cindy hooked up with Jeremy, or just join Lena gang and became corrupted together

Cindy needs to get BLACKED asap.

 

[BlandChili]

I am curious as to what she draws and what others draw.

I don't think Eva draws anything besides the outlines of scenes, I think she probably does all the sprite work herself too. But she has a colourist for the traced art she makes.

Her backgrounds have rarely been home-made I think. In GGGB she used edited photographs and in ORS they have mostly, if not all, been commissioned work. Not sure if the obviously AI beach town background from last chapter was made by her or the people making her backgrounds tricked her. She may have made some backgrounds herself, but if so she and the people she commissions the others from have done really well to replicate each other in style. We know some of the backgrounds, such as the one from the street during Alison's trip, is modelled after a location Eva went to IRL and was inspired by, but I don't recall if she implied to have drawn it herself.

 

[Andrea9999]

I don't think Eva draws anything besides the outlines of scenes, I think she probably does all the sprite work herself too. But she has a colourist for the traced art she makes.

Her backgrounds have rarely been home-made I think. In GGGB she used edited photographs and in ORS they have mostly, if not all, been commissioned work. Not sure if the obviously AI beach town background from last chapter was made by her or the people making her backgrounds tricked her. She may have made some backgrounds herself, but if so she and the people she commissions the others from have done really well to replicate each other in style. We know some of the backgrounds, such as the one from the street during Alison's trip, is modelled after a location Eva went to IRL and was inspired by, but I don't recall if she implied to have drawn it herself.

Thank you.
I looked up sprite work and it led me to "pixel art"; images made up, I gather, by directly specifying RGB values of the pixels involved in the image. If I understand correctly, then what would be an example of it in ORS?

I agree about subsequent people replicating the work of their predecessors very well. I hope it continues because I think Lena's looks are quite exotic in length of face, expressions in the eyes, and pale complexion. Some recent scenes posted here trouble me. (I have not played in a long while; I'm waiting until a sizable amount of content is released.)

*nod* on the background; I recall a while back someone posted a real street scene comparing it to the one you mentioned.

 

[BlandChili]

Thank you.
I looked up sprite work and it led me to "pixel art"; images made up, I gather, by directly specifying RGB values of the pixels involved in the image. If I understand correctly, then what would be an example of it in ORS?

I mean the details themselves, like colours and hues, aren't applied through Renpy usually, but the sprites work by having blank versions and a selection of clothes and expressions that can be applied when relevant. If you're really curious you can use unren to decompile the game files and have a look through the image folder for yourself, all the blank sprites and facial features are in there.

 

[reyir]

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The script for the next update is almost finished, all that's left is to polish a few paragraphs, add music and sound effects and code the images and animations. The main challenge when writing Seymour scenes is describing Lena's psychological reactions, since her relationship with him has 3 parallel states (one in which Lena is reluctant, one in which she's defiant and one in which she's devoted), and those states can bleed into each other.
The main delay with this update is the art. To be honest, I've been having ongoing issues with the colorist, with constant delays and problems with the colors, which almost always come out very distorted, with extreme saturation and incorrect tones. In this example, you can see how Lena's skin tones are too harsh and orange, and this issue is consistent across all the illustrations in this chapter.

Normally, I try to fix this with adjustment layers and other methods, but it’s very time-consuming on my part and really frustrating. I'm still waiting for the corrections, which should arrive by the end of this week, and then I’ll be able to start editing the final art, adding polish, textures, backgrounds, and ambient lighting.

The new backgrounds exclusive to this event have been delivered today, and though I also feel the quality has decreased a bit (while prices keep increasing), but I think they are good enough.

The drawing for 3 new scenes that will appear in the next update after this one have also been completed, and they're in the hands of the colorist too. I'm waiting to see how those come out too, and when, but the priority is to wrap up the Seymour event. Hopefully I'll have all the pieces finished and assembled soon; I'll keep you posted!

Now that i remembered that some Manhwa artist using AI to make their Manhwa, not those with stolen Library or shit, but they draw their own library, and they prompt what they wanted with those library of their own arts, as a base, really boosting the work rate of their Manhwa.

Is it possible to used it to created automatic skin tones to replace the colorist? Cuz i think its possible if you just input many data and it will used that as reference to fix the skin tones and etc.

And did Eva already used AI to help her draw? Just like those Manhwa Artist, cuz if she put all of those Lena or other characters arts, and make it into libraries, she definitely can train AI that can boosted her productivity by very huge margins, not to the point it fully did the work, but just to make things easier, like she can just fix the arts that came out from the AI, instead of fully draw it herself from scratch

 

[Roderick2]

Louise loathes Stan and not in the reverse psychological tsundere way. And Stan doesn't have the mentality to make a move on a person who so openly despises him.
Louise is interested in confident people. Stans current options are nice Lena and meek Holly.

I don't see the point in pointless speculation and wish fulfillment, if there is no setup, no foreshadowing, no indication at all. That's just as fanficty as Lena/Cindy, big bad Seymour getting cucked by faceless dubai scheichs, Jeremy/Cindy etc.

And there is the trap that would possibly lead a drunk, sad and upset Louise to come home and "attack" Stan. Obviously, the next morning would be pretty crazy...

Love and hate are parts of the same coin and, as the saying goes, "those who disdain want to buy."

 

[dobzzz]

Now that i remembered that some Manhwa artist using AI to make their Manhwa, not those with stolen Library or shit, but they draw their own library, and they prompt what they wanted with those library of their own arts, as a base, really boosting the work rate of their Manhwa.

Is it possible to used it to created automatic skin tones to replace the colorist? Cuz i think its possible if you just input many data and it will used that as reference to fix the skin tones and etc.

And did Eva already used AI to help her draw? Just like those Manhwa Artist, cuz if she put all of those Lena or other characters arts, and make it into libraries, she definitely can train AI that can boosted her productivity by very huge margins, not to the point it fully did the work, but just to make things easier, like she can just fix the arts that came out from the AI, instead of fully draw it herself from scratch

She already does use RL reference, so using AI wont make much difference since she has trace and correct the mistakes the AI makes

 

[dolfe67]

Now that i remembered that some Manhwa artist using AI to make their Manhwa, not those with stolen Library or shit, but they draw their own library, and they prompt what they wanted with those library of their own arts, as a base, really boosting the work rate of their Manhwa.

Is it possible to used it to created automatic skin tones to replace the colorist? Cuz i think its possible if you just input many data and it will used that as reference to fix the skin tones and etc.

And did Eva already used AI to help her draw? Just like those Manhwa Artist, cuz if she put all of those Lena or other characters arts, and make it into libraries, she definitely can train AI that can boosted her productivity by very huge margins, not to the point it fully did the work, but just to make things easier, like she can just fix the arts that came out from the AI, instead of fully draw it herself from scratch

Yes it's possible, there is even some examples here in this thread done by someone else. Eva also mentionned AI recently, and not only for background

 

[TheCandyman]

This one maybe?

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No but thanks, that album has serious good songs

Look for a BAT called Unren on this site. Drag it into the same folder as the exe. Run it. Read and follow the instructions on the screen in the CMD window. Now you have access to the music folder in the game folder and can hear Jeremy's Jive and "Shut up! - And Get Down" to your heart's content.

Thankssss!!!

In the end it was the "sex_good" song!

 

[GokutheG]

You know what's funny about Louise's hate for Stan. She is so desperate for attention and affection from any source she can find it and Stan seems like he'd be totally devoted to any girl who'd give him attention and affection. They're both looking for the same thing and you'd think they'd get on great if they got together.

 

[yuvce]

You know what's funny about Louise's hate for Stan. She is so desperate for attention and affection from any source she can find it and Stan seems like he'd be totally devoted to any girl who'd give him attention and affection. They're both looking for the same thing and you'd think they'd get on great if they got together.

Except one of them has an unrealistic view of what her "perfect guy" should look like (slim/somewhat muscular) and affiliates someone of Stan's stature to be a creep. The other, granted, is a socially inept creep, and in all likelihood the women he was belittled by had the same demeanor as Louise. The fact that they stereotype each other blinds them to the aforementioned fact that they want the same thing.

 

[ffive]

You know what's funny about Louise's hate for Stan. She is so desperate for attention and affection from any source she can find it and Stan seems like he'd be totally devoted to any girl who'd give him attention and affection. They're both looking for the same thing and you'd think they'd get on great if they got together.

The thing is what they are both looking for is a good looking person who will give them attention. There's plenty of girls who are Stan-tier in both looks and attitude but surprise, surprise, Stan would rather wank to super models and dream they'll accept his sword.

And while Louise is decent enough looking to maybe meet Stan's inflated standards of what girl he "deserves", Stan is obv. not meeting similar standards Louise is setting for her potential partner.

 

[SuperW]

I want EVA to redo the fight in Chapter 12 at the gym so that if Ian gets knocked out, he suffers a subdurmal hematoma and drops dead at the beach house for a non-standard game over.

 

[Chemish]

I want EVA to redo the fight in Chapter 12 at the gym so that if Ian gets knocked out, he suffers a subdurmal hematoma and drops dead at the beach house for a non-standard game over.

 

[Ray_D]

I want EVA to redo the fight in Chapter 12 at the gym so that if Ian gets knocked out, he suffers a subdurmal hematoma and drops dead at the beach house for a non-standard game over.

Fair enough, but only if you add an overdose death to lena during ivy's party. Take it or leave it buddy.

 

[NewSeal]

I want EVA to redo the fight in Chapter 12 at the gym so that if Ian gets knocked out, he suffers a subdurmal hematoma and drops dead at the beach house for a non-standard game over.

Well GGGB had an ending where the protagonist could die so why not?

 

[Gicoo]

Well GGGB had an ending where the protagonist could die so why not?

Because GGGB had one protagonist and storyline.
If one character dies now in ORS, the other character has to go to the rest of the game, along with all the side-characters, including the ones relating to the dead MC.

It could only work if Ian and Lena die at the same time (fucking too much, fighting Axel/Cindy or Mike/Gillian at the same time kek).

 

[reyir]

You know what's funny about Louise's hate for Stan. She is so desperate for attention and affection from any source she can find it and Stan seems like he'd be totally devoted to any girl who'd give him attention and affection. They're both looking for the same thing and you'd think they'd get on great if they got together.

Nah fuck louise, i wanted a path where Lena help Stan to get back on Louise, just make her a slave of the person she hated the most, Stan, that should be the perfect relationship for those two, having Stan just dominate that bitch