I think Jeremy having some limit to how far he'll go upholding the "bro code" is pretty realistic, especially when the trial he faces is a hot brunette attached to his dick and encouraging him to just let it go. Not only would him sticking to his guns in that scenario when Lena and Ian aren't even together feel a bit Perry-level ridiculous (and also similar, with the fat mfer chastising everyone for even commenting on friend's gfs) but let's also not forget that quite a few player's Ians won't give two craps about that "bro code" and hound Cindy at every opportunity.
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Probably most of the people who go on Seymour's path do so not because of him specifically but because it's a gateway to Lena corruption content
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The whole argument I'm making is that it would only apply if Jeremy knows Ian is involved with her, obviously if he isn't Jeremy would have no reason to reject her.
I don't think Ian ever claims to abide by the bro-code, so while him going after Cindy makes him a scumbag it doesn't make him a hypocrite
I have worded it wrongly perhaps, but i was referring to the fact that Jeremy (tries to) object when he knows Ian has feelings for Lena. So Ian/Lena aren't really together, Ian just wishes they were and that's the basis for Jeremy to back off. That he even actually tries to do it in this scenario is pretty decent of him.
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I think it's rather feeble myself. Props for at least putting on a token resistance I guess, but that Lena can tempt him to break it anyway just makes him appear pathetic to me. If he could reject her wholly in that scene, regardless of what the player does, I think that'd really show him in a different light, even if Lena could later on in the story "bludgeon" him into sexual surrender
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Likely true. But for now all the other routes that include some form or another of corrupting her (which is most of them) got more palpable results and seem at least somewhat more could-be-real-life kind of believable.
For all I know the Apex of the Seymour-route might be the non-plus-ultra of all corruption but until then it´s gtfo for me.
I don't care about Seymour route, I just want the fixes for the bugs from 12.3.
That just means Jeremy is also not dogmatic but an open-minded and reasonable person who can be swayed by good argument
I guess i just don't treat seriously enough the whole idea that "i saw her and i like her so she's miiiiine" should totally override girl's own agency and willingness to pick partner(s) that she wants. So if Jeremy doesn't make that the core of his personality, then honestly, good for him. Frankly, the idea of "claiming" a girl because dude just likes her is pretty fucking creepy. Like, i get the emotional aspect, but Ian, dude, come on.
Yes, to me it'd show him in the same light as Perry, little cranky sourpuss constantly kvetching bro code this and bro code that, so i don't think this would be change for the better. :vIf he could reject her wholly in that scene, regardless of what the player does, I think that'd really show him in a different light, even if Lena could later on in the story "bludgeon" him into sexual surrender
(and if Lena could still convince him to fuck, just a little bit later, wouldn't that make the situation the same, since he'd be still "surrendering" anyway..? I mean, that'd make his resistance also just a token one.)
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It shouldn't. I have no issue with the player having the option to go after him and continuing to do so. I'd even find him more enticing to chase myself if he couldn't fold the very first time you try.
I would agree, but the bro-code is one Jeremy claims to abide by himself. If he didn't make the big speech about it first I wouldn't blame him for failing to uphold it either.
I don't think I understand what you are arguing here, can you explain?
I disagree with this. If a friend says he has romantic feelings for someone then it should be understood that that someone is off limits. If it's not romantic, like how Jeremy talks up Ivy, then it's different. I don't think it's removing the person agency, it's just using your own agency to not be the person that slept with a friend's crush/romantic prospect, if the person then wants to still use their agency to see other people who are not your friend, they can do that, but you don't have to be involved with that. Also, it takes quite a while for Jeremy to come clean, even if he does clearly feel guilty about it.
I'm only going to pay EK 20 bucks for this Seymour route if we get to meet Diddy and go to Diddler island.
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Screw it. Time to take one for the team.
Enjoy, and don't call me a cuck, please.
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I don't really view it from the perspective of the player here, but Jeremy himself -- i think that the fact he doesn't hold out longer is actually in his favor, instead of against him. It's pretty much what i'd expect a normal human do in such situation, so this realism makes him a better character (not better as in more virtuous, obv., the other better)
Fair, but we can just as well blame Lena and Ian for a lot of their actions after they make big speeches about how bad it feels to be cheated on, etc. I don't think too many people hate on themselves for this hypocrisy in playing their Lena and/or Ian in such manner, and think less of these characters, as they blame Jeremy for his giving in.
It's just optics -- Perry's frequently yapping and chastising his friends for even noting that a friend's girlfriend is woman, let alone a sexy one, "because bro code" is really annoying. So if i saw Jeremy staunchly and quite unreasonably imo refuse Lena to the bitter end "because bro code" it'd make him appear less like a character he tries to be (a laid-back skirt chaser) and more like Perry with his bro code obsession. And one Perry is more than enough.
(i'm out of reactions for the day, btw. Sorry about that ._.