VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 BETA] [Eva Kiss]

[Echbert]

Thank you for that! As a huge Alison Fan this is exactly how I view her Character as well and for me she still is the best (Endgame) Option for Ian even after Nine Chapters now! The big Problem with Alison for many people is that I think the gap between her Stories is too much (It's like between possible "Highschool-Big-Love-Story" and for the People who play not much Alison it's more like "Crazy Psycho who is obsessed with Ian"). I think the love Route with her is amazing and has like the most hottest but also realistic scenes (also the romance with her is build up very slow but again it feels realisitic) You can start hooking up with her in Chapter 2 and explore a lot of different takes with her Route and right now you still can't really confess to her if your Ian has Feelings for her because they are building this up every Chapter) I mean I also love Cindy but the Evolution of her Route espescially from Chapter 7 to 9 was way too fast and the Romance-Part of her Story doesn't feel right for me at least right now but on the other Hand the cheating part with her is really good so every possible Option has good Scenarios somehow for every taste.

I just feel like Alison is a better Mature-Visual-Novel than just pure Porn-Game Character because if you play all of her Scenes you definitely see she is really flawed and yes sometimes annoying (espescially if you don't pay much attention to her Route) but therefore also well written.

I agree that the gap is a huge issue, but it think the other problems are that beyond Ian she's not really all that pleasant to be around. She's stuck up, judgemental, and will often take over the conversation to complain about her problems, she comes of as a bit of a narcassist. My problem with her story come in 3 parts:

A. Ian has this internal conflict with having sex with a friend, but we as the player don't really get to experience much of that because we know Alison purely as an LI. Her story would have benefitted from taking some time to establish their friendship first before moving with the FwB, which also would help with my next points.

B. Her story is very romance driven, we don't really see scenes where she's just organically part of the story, which means we only very specific sides of her(compare this to Cindy or Emma, some of their scenes have nothing to do with their romance with Ian)

C. we're not really shown Alison in a more "relaxed" setting till the trip. she's kind of always in a bad mood, and this results her not being as dynamic and well rounded as other characters. Her path would have benefitted from implementing her into the group more, since they know her, that way we get to see an Alison who's around ppl she's comfortable with, giving her different dynamics with each group member so we get to see more of her(something like Anna from AeA as i feel their personalities are somewhat similar).

I do like her character though, she feels very authentic. I'm hoping with her romance path we start to see her get more and more relaxed with Ian, she seemed to be taking the first steps towards that during the trip letting go of her need to control things for a while.

Wouldn't necessarily say Cindy's story is rushed, her story necessitated an uptake in pace due to the nature of it:

• the cheating meant they had to really be drawn to one another and couldn't really have time to feel that out on "dates" or something similar
• her denial meant Ian had to go all in to get her to confess her feelings or not, plus Ian also has to feel it's worth the risk to go behind his friend's back to "be with" his girlfiriend

Cheating romances are often more of a "spur of the moment" type of thing for ppl who aren't assholes, and i think Eva did a good job capturing that.

I don't really have a favoured romance myself, I think LenaxIan is the best written due to the nature of them being the obvious focus of the story but i do like the others as well(especially Holly's which has this kind of wierd power dynamic where i'm wondering if Ian should really pursue her since she puts him on this pedestal, she's a textbook Dandere, and it adds this complexity to a romance that seems like such an obvious choice).

 

[BloodyMares]

Eva Kiss to her team!!

The team

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lmao. I'm both amazed and a bit creeped out by how accurate my response is. Had no idea about the last point, though. Do they think that for real? The timeline doesn't quite match though since I started working on the guide only from v0.3...

 

[Lndlordd]

 

[Homemade]

lmao. I'm both amazed and a bit creeped out by how accurate my response is. Had no idea about the last point, though. Do they think that for real? The timeline doesn't quite match though since I started working on the guide only from v0.3...

Maybe I am you from a different universe. Seriously though, bro I don't know. I just saw some users talking about how you remind them of Ian like you are the actor that portrays Ian. I guess they feel that because of the way you write your posts. Yeah, I know Zoey raven was working on walkthrough before you so kudos to him as well.

Bro as I said before I don't like to write in English that much. But whenever I read your posts, I feel you write in a way that feels as if my own thoughts are written by you in English so keep it up. It's always intriguing and fun to read your posts and your analysis about the world and characters of "ORS". I always read your posts with enthusiasm. YOU, Echbert, gisgus, and a few others are among those people to whose posts I give a like instantly even before reading.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

A. Ian has this internal conflict with having sex with a friend, but we as the player don't really get to experience much of that because we know Alison purely as an LI. Her story would have benefitted from taking some time to establish their friendship first before moving with the FwB, which also would help with my next points.

This is a good point. Slightly related to that: Ian also seems weirdly unaware of Alison's feelings towards him, even though it should be very obvious. That adds to the mismatch of how Ian and the players see her and their relationship. It's similar with Holly, who it's obvious that is head over heels in love with Ian, but he seems oblivious to how strongly she feels for him. I suspect the reason behind it is that Eva wants the relationships to progress at a more or less similar pace, but the result is that Ian is really attentive and socially smart particularly with Cindy, and not at all the same with the girls who already have feelings for him. It's probably difficult to avoid that though, with all the considerations you have to take to balance the different parts of the story.

I mean I also love Cindy but the Evolution of her Route espescially from Chapter 7 to 9 was way too fast and the Romance-Part of her Story doesn't feel right for me at least right now but on the other Hand the cheating part with her is really good so every possible Option has good Scenarios somehow for every taste.

I think this was the case with a few different storylines in the latest chapter. Alison's "corruption" path, as you mentioned as well; Cindy and the choice to tell her you want to be with her (and also the very blunt "you should continue cheating on him" choice); Holly suddenly being at the point where she can make out with Ivy and let her smack her butt in public; and the way Lena so easily adapted to the idea of her relationship with Seymour taking a turn that we as the players saw coming, but which she had no reason to suspect.

Earlier Eva has been talking about a time skip, but when she was asked about the same in the latest Q&A, she wrote a slightly cryptic answer where she pointed out that it was in fact a small time skip before the latest chapter. Maybe that's how she'll do it instead — several smaller time skips to make sure that the story spans a bigger time frame than a week per update? Particularly in the case of Holly and Ivy I got the impression that the minor time skip was used to take a leap in their path: Lena had been away for a few weeks, and in that time — away from Lena's and our knowledge — Ivy's corruption had progressed further than it could've done in one week of the game.

All in all I think a few of the storylines were pushed a bit too fast forward in chapter 9, but I think I'm fine with that. One of the strengths of the game is that it takes the time necessary to develop its story, but sometimes you also need to be a bit pragmatic to make sure the story's progressing, at least when the updates take several months because of the game's complexity. And it's certainly easier doing it that way — minor time skips and sometimes rushing the story a bit — than finding a point of the story where all relationships and storylines are "settled" enough to progress the story away from our control for a big period of time.

 

[JohnnySolo]

I think this was the case with a few different storylines in the latest chapter. Alison's "corruption" path, as you mentioned as well; Cindy and the choice to tell her you want to be with her (and also the very blunt "you should continue cheating on him" choice); Holly suddenly being at the point where she can make out with Ivy and let her smack her butt in public; and the way Lena so easily adapted to the idea of her relationship with Seymour taking a turn that we as the players saw coming, but which she had no reason to suspect.

To be honest in my first playthrough I was also a bit surprised (more shocked) about the turn in the Lena / Seymour relationship. I’m also not 100% sure if in that version of the game I had the possibility to rejected his offer in the restaurant scene (but maybe I’m remembering it wrongly), for sure I couldn’t reject the vibrator.

To be fair, my first playthrough was a bit fast and I didn’t put so much attention into every detail of the story and think back to the first meeting of Lena and Seymour in the art gallery it’s pretty obvious that Seymour has some dark intentions, so I rejected his offer in my other playthrough.

On the other side the first dinner in the restaurant and the two photo shooting scenes are more or less professional (if you do the second one without Axel). It’s clear that Seymour is a powerful man, how is always in control of the situation and always has the overhand. So, you can see I’m still a bit shocked about the events in chapter 9 . Maybe I have to replay the scenes and have bit a better look into the details, if I have missed something that make Seymour's reaction so obvious.

 

[lipe2410]

To be honest in my first playthrough I was also a bit surprised (more shocked) about the turn in the Lena / Seymour relationship. I’m also not 100% sure if in that version of the game I had the possibility to rejected his offer in the restaurant scene (but maybe I’m remembering it wrongly), for sure I couldn’t reject the vibrator.

To be fair, my first playthrough was a bit fast and I didn’t put so much attention into every detail of the story and think back to the first meeting of Lena and Seymour in the art gallery it’s pretty obvious that Seymour has some dark intentions, so I rejected his offer in my other playthrough.

On the other side the first dinner in the restaurant and the two photo shooting scenes are more or less professional (if you do the second one without Axel). It’s clear that Seymour is a powerful man, how is always in control of the situation and always has the overhand. So, you can see I’m still a bit shocked about the events in chapter 9 . Maybe I have to replay the scenes and have bit a better look into the details, if I have missed something that make Seymour's reaction so obvious.

Just the way he said to Lena "this makes you even better" with that evil smile in the first dinner was enough to trigger my "creep old man" radar. Since then i made Lena work with him but always in a safe distance so she could properly reject his blackmail in chapter 9. Now is time to Lena join Emma and these two take down that pig and celebrate it with a hot sex.

 

[typicals1mp]

I love this ^_^

 

[Prince of Depression]

Just the way he said to Lena "this makes you even better" with that evil smile in the first dinner was enough to trigger my "creep old man" radar. Since then i made Lena work with him but always in a safe distance so she could properly reject his blackmail in chapter 9. Now is time to Lena join Emma and these two take down that pig and celebrate it with a hot sex.

This asshole sabotaging Lena. I agreed with his offer only cause i hope Lena could betray him, took everything from him and ride of into the sunset with Ian.

 

[lipe2410]

This asshole sabotaging Lena. I agreed with his offer only cause i hope Lena could betrayd him, took everything from him and ride of into the sunset with Ian.

Wow, this will be awesome too

 

[playsafe]

How can I access the menu in the apk version btw?

 

[dolfe67]

My Lena will become Seymour's little pet and will enjoy being humiliated in public, while Ian will witness it like a good cuck

 

[CoalPhelps]

To be honest in my first playthrough I was also a bit surprised (more shocked) about the turn in the Lena / Seymour relationship. I’m also not 100% sure if in that version of the game I had the possibility to rejected his offer in the restaurant scene (but maybe I’m remembering it wrongly), for sure I couldn’t reject the vibrator.

To be fair, my first playthrough was a bit fast and I didn’t put so much attention into every detail of the story and think back to the first meeting of Lena and Seymour in the art gallery it’s pretty obvious that Seymour has some dark intentions, so I rejected his offer in my other playthrough.

On the other side the first dinner in the restaurant and the two photo shooting scenes are more or less professional (if you do the second one without Axel). It’s clear that Seymour is a powerful man, how is always in control of the situation and always has the overhand. So, you can see I’m still a bit shocked about the events in chapter 9 . Maybe I have to replay the scenes and have bit a better look into the details, if I have missed something that make Seymour's reaction so obvious.

I would say that the prerequisites are not directly obvious, but they are.

The first is a meeting in the gallery. If you choose the Lust answer option, then Seymour will say in fancy words that he agrees with those who take pictures of naked girls just to drool over them. Of course, this is not too obvious yet, but it can already be added to the piggy bank.

The second is a meeting in a restaurant. Now he says "That just makes you so much better", but if I'm not delusional and my memory does not deceive me, then in earlier versions he said "only better". It does not differ in meaning, but stylistically adds dark shades to this statement, coupled with a classic villainous smile.

The third is that during the photo shoot Seymour out of the blue starts calling Lena "Doll". This treatment gives the impression that he already considers Lena his toy and property. I think that many girls would think after that about the intentions of the photographer.

The fourth is that he quickly agrees with Agnes and asks Lena for the most depraved shots with Axel. All in all, it doesn't stray too far from his provocative style, but given how far they can go, it turns into soft pornography.

The fifth is the smirk during the phone call for the appointment in Chapter 9. Already portends something unpleasant and dark even before they meet.

Well, I would also include here the fact that he appeared in a cafe. In itself, this is harmless, but he clearly knew about the state of affairs in the house, plus the manifestation of too close interest in Lena.

These are all suspicious moments that I could remember.

 

[CoalPhelps]

How can I access the menu in the apk version btw?

Um, the rather large white "Menu" button in the lower left corner doesn't suit you?

 

[playsafe]

Um, the rather large white "Menu" button in the lower left corner doesn't suit you?

Thanks! Are you talking about this rather large invisible "Menu" button?
My phone got 1080 x 2400 pixels

 

[CoalPhelps]

Thanks! Are you talking about this rather large invisible "Menu" button?
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Come on, I'm messing around. But seriously, you obviously have a non-standard resolution. What is the ratio?

 

[playsafe]

The Poco f3 got a 20:9 ratio with its 1080 x 2400 pixels

 

[CoalPhelps]

The Poco f3 got a 20:9 ratio with its 1080 x 2400 pixels

Very strange, I have the same resolution and aspect ratio. Did GGGB work fine on your device?

 

[JohnnySolo]

I would say that the prerequisites are not directly obvious, but they are.

The first is a meeting in the gallery. If you choose the Lust answer option, then Seymour will say in fancy words that he agrees with those who take pictures of naked girls just to drool over them. Of course, this is not too obvious yet, but it can already be added to the piggy bank.

The second is a meeting in a restaurant. Now he says "That just makes you so much better", but if I'm not delusional and my memory does not deceive me, then in earlier versions he said "only better". It does not differ in meaning, but stylistically adds dark shades to this statement, coupled with a classic villainous smile.

The third is that during the photo shoot Seymour out of the blue starts calling Lena "Doll". This treatment gives the impression that he already considers Lena his toy and property. I think that many girls would think after that about the intentions of the photographer.

The fourth is that he quickly agrees with Agnes and asks Lena for the most depraved shots with Axel. All in all, it doesn't stray too far from his provocative style, but given how far they can go, it turns into soft pornography.

The fifth is the smirk during the phone call for the appointment in Chapter 9. Already portends something unpleasant and dark even before they meet.

Well, I would also include here the fact that he appeared in a cafe. In itself, this is harmless, but he clearly knew about the state of affairs in the house, plus the manifestation of too close interest in Lena.

These are all suspicious moments that I could remember.

Thank you, all points pretty obvious.

I think my problem is, that I still hope that in the Seymour / Lena story there is something more, not just the bad rich guy how can’t accept that someone is not obeying him and now he wants to “destroy” him.

And don’t get me wrong, I can’t wait until Lena and/or Ian are taking down this pig.

 

[playsafe]

I've only played GGGB on Desktop