WatsonJohn

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which scenes in this game are ntr in your opinion?
Lena cucking Ian with Axel and Seymour. Ian cucking Lena with Cindy or Holly. The scenes with Axel and Cindy are also hinting to ntr or are leading to ntr scenes. Same goes with Cherry and Holly (with Lena). Also arguably with Allison depending on whether you consider her a love interest in that specific path.
 

JohnnySolo

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Development update

Hey guys,

here's your weekly development update. I can't report much without spoiling things, but as you know I've been going over the scripts adding and tweaking stuff. Stan's part is done, and also most of what I wanted to revamp. All the new art is almost completed too, everything has been drawn and colored and I just need to go over what's left to be finalised (lights, shadows, backgrounds and ambient light).

As you can see in the above image, the graphical quality of the game has been improving quite a lot since the first chapters, and there were some illustrations I had to re-do. It's almost comical how bad the old version of Ian and Lena's first kiss looks compared to the new one... I feel this depiction makes the moment much better justice. A few other illustrations have received the same treatment, and new ones have been added.

Other than that, I just need to finish the last change I've been wanting to made: a new prologue to the game, since I've been feeling dissatisfied with the current start to the game for a while. I feel it's a bit bland and boring, and it could convey the game's mechanics in a better way. Once that's done and all the pieces are put together, it's revision and debugging time and then we can launch the polished version of ORS and keep moving forward with chapter 10!
I was lately a bit sceptical, but this update/news is now really teasing me. (And finally something with contented that I really enjoy:)).
If we get this improvement in quality, then I think the rework was worth doing it.
 

Gicoo

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Just discovered this after finishing GGGB.

Quite pessimistic about the working progress. 2 years for 30-40%(?) bodes ill. If every further chapter just gets more complex and takes several month each, this can take several years and worst case won't be finished, considering burnout, reworking on already completed chapters etc. GGGB was straightforward and simple, ORS struggles juggling between 2 main characters (very few advantages and tons of disadvantages with this format), an even more complicated, probably needles skill and relationship system and too many side characters (having less, but more developed characters is better). There is a limit how many years a game needs developing. Larger games may get away with five years, this is still a fairly short game.

Overall, I have the impression that the developer is too overambigious with this and made too much of a leap from GGGB. The latter was a simple porn game primarily and offered character drama secondly. This game tries the reverse, but a porn game isn't the format for a story focused character driven drama, at least primarly.
 

BloodyMares

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Lena cucking Ian with Axel and Seymour. Ian cucking Lena with Cindy or Holly. The scenes with Axel and Cindy are also hinting to ntr or are leading to ntr scenes. Same goes with Cherry and Holly (with Lena). Also arguably with Allison depending on whether you consider her a love interest in that specific path.
Most of the examples could be argued that NTR doesn't apply because it's the protagonist initiating the cheating. Have to agree about Alison though, her content does set up future NTR in Chapter 9 by stating that she'll hook up with Jeremy regardless of the player's intention (consequence for not being close enough) which passes the criteria of the love interest's affection being stolen.
 

scor099

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I don't know why some people think it's the end of the world when they see the tag "NTR" and act like it's the end of the world, it's just a fucking game just bust a nut or rub one out and enjoy.

of course I'm not singling anyone here but since we're talking about it I thought I'd say what I think and I'm just talking about the subject in general because that's what I see in every game that has an NTR tag.
 

The_Searcher

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I don't know why some people think it's the end of the world when they see the tag "NTR" and act like it's the end of the world, it's just a fucking game just bust a nut or rub one out and enjoy.

of course I'm not singling anyone here but since we're talking about it I thought I'd say what I think and I'm just talking about the subject in general because that's what I see in every game that has an NTR tag.
And in the end, a NTR route will be player choice decision, right?

I mean, if you don't want NTR... Well, don't choose the options that go directly to that path.
 

WatsonJohn

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Most of the examples could be argued that NTR doesn't apply because it's the protagonist initiating the cheating. Have to agree about Alison though, her content does set up future NTR in Chapter 9 by stating that she'll hook up with Jeremy regardless of the player's intention (consequence for not being close enough) which passes the criteria of the love interest's affection being stolen.
The cheating is still at the expense of the other protagonist though. Even though you control the other protagonist making that decision, let's say in this case Lena cucking Ian, Ian - a protagonist, still gets his love interest cheating on him. By changing perspective and controlling Ian, the point of view of the player still follows a protagonist being cucked by a love interest. Now that perspective may change again and we get to have Lena's point of view so when Lena cucks Ian it's only cheating. In other words given that this game has multiple protagonists, when we are in Lena's perspective, we are not experiencing ntr when she is cheating, but as we shift our pov and we get to see and control Ian, when Lena cheated on Ian, we get to experience ntr from a love interest cheating on the player-character, which in this case is Ian. I only used Ian getting cheated as an example. The roles could reverse and Lena could be the one getting cheated.
 
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fute8848

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The cheating is still at the expense of the other protagonist though. Even though you control the other protagonist making that decision, let's say in this case Lena cucking Ian, Ian - a protagonist, still gets his love interest cheating on him. By changing perspective and controlling Ian, the point of view of the player still follows a protagonist being cucked by a love interest. Now that perspective may change again and we get to have Lena's point of view so when Lena cucks Ian it's only cheating. In other words given that this game has multiple protagonists, when we are in Lena's perspective, we are not experiencing ntr when she is cheating, but as we shift our pov and we get to see and control Ian, when Lena cheated on Ian, we get to experience ntr from a love interest cheating on the player-character, which in this case is Ian. I only used Ian getting cheated as an example. The roles could reverse and Lena could be the one getting cheated.
i understand your point but I just wonder how do you define “NTR” , I know it’s more or less a anime word of cheating and cuckolding though, still confused about how the real life ntr works?? In real life people cheats on each others a lot but there are many kinds of cheating in real life
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Other than that, I just need to finish the last change I've been wanting to made: a new prologue to the game, since I've been feeling dissatisfied with the current start to the game for a while. I feel it's a bit bland and boring, and it could convey the game's mechanics in a better way. Once that's done and all the pieces are put together, it's revision and debugging time and then we can launch the polished version of ORS and keep moving forward with chapter 10!
"And as I fapped, I couldn't help but stop tugging for a second to note the quality of the set design." - Gene Shalit, marveling at Eva's rework of the Patreon original in a stellar steam review.

"A master stroke" - Richard 'hairy palms' Roeper.
 
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