CharAtoll

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Also conveniently forgetting that Ian has fucking holly. He has a girl lusting after him that is literally the "cute needy but still good-looking virgin" trope incarnate as a romance option. Lena only got fucking stan.
Lena also has Holly but with more content (including two different threesome scenes with Ivy) and it is far easier route to do and doesn't conflict with others other than dating/loving Ian.
 
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Sean Poon

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Perfect. Cuck Ian route ftw
How does everyone just know what this is? Seems every way I play Ian, simping for girls/ignoring girls, simping for Lena, I can't get him to talk about the nightmare with Gillian.

What is "the cuck route?"
 

Fellas

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i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is back with Axel again.

The sense I get of Lena from early chapters makes it seem to me like she really want to distance herself from Axel. Moving away, told Ivy not to tell Axel where she lived, etc. So i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is falling for Axel.

On the other hand, the sense I get of Ian is more half-half about Gillian. So on many of my playthrough, Ian is not over Gillian yet.
Yet Lena and Axel get one of the hottest sex scene of the game. And we're far from IanxGillian scenes:cautious:
 

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How does everyone just know what this is? Seems every way I play Ian, simping for girls/ignoring girls, simping for Lena, I can't get him to talk about the nightmare with Gillian.

What is "the cuck route?"
In the code and walkthrough, the variable is even called cuck. Its also in-game shown by the sad smiley.
It starts in chapter 10 when Ian and Lena are together. If Lena is unfaithfull to Ian, she gives him a handjob and Ian can decide to start the route by asking her how he compares to previous boyfriends. It goes on in further scenes, with Lena denying sex, teasing him etc.
 

Esti

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Ian is offering her what Wade do not.
Yes he does. Would that be enough, though? He is not competing with Wade.

Axel only serves as the cool guy who can lift her in her professional life that's all.
Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
 

Socrambus

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Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
Once again, everything you said is true. But call me a naive romantic or maybe a fool in a few updates, but I think Cindy is the kind of girl who needs an emotional connection before sex. What makes me thing that is her sexual behaviour with Ian, she's a hot girl and she shows a lack of experience compared to more "physical" girls like Cherry or Lena. Now if you are just fucking her for the sex or you say you love her but you continue to fuck others, she's also the kind of girl who would absolutely fuck a guy just to spite you. But I think that if you choose Ian doing things right, there might be a bittersweet ending (Ian and Cindy's relationships with the rest of the group might not end well).
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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Yes he does. Would that be enough, though? He is not competing with Wade.


Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
Fair or not, this is true. One of my oldest, closest friends is a "Chad." He's a good guy, actually, not like Axel at all, but he draws women in ways I wouldn't believe if I didn't see it firsthand. He doesn't even need to try. He is nice-looking, but not THAT nice looking and now in his mid-50s he's overweight and gray and still women half his age flirt with him and give him clear signals they would sleep with him. As you can imagine, when he was younger he regularly took advantage of such encounters. He does so less often now, but it's still mind boggling to me how effortless it happens for him.

I don't know if there are pheromones or some other subliminal chemistry at work, but from what I can see he just exudes confidence, even though (like most humans) he has plenty of insecurities. He has always carried himself and talked in a way that presents himself as utterly secure. Not arrogant, just self-possessed.
 
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Yep,not playing the Axel and Seymour routes is like reading a book and skipping chapters,you are missing alot info about the sex maniac known as Lena.
It's not the same though. It's like a tv series that its chapters are not connected together. You can watch all of it or skip a few chapters without having any drawbacks. At least half of the routes does not interesting enough for me, so why should I suffer through it? I play the routes I like and I play them thoroughly, it is honestly enough for me.
 
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| Vee |

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Yes he does. Would that be enough, though? He is not competing with Wade.


Do you have any idea how many girls would go with the cool guy even without career offerings? A lot. And how many DNA test showed that husband isn't biological father? So many that it's ridiculous. Jocks and so called chads are popular for a reason even though they aren't great at emotional support.

Listen, I take no pleasure in speaking good about Axel so maybe you wouldn't try to discard my argument by saying that just a cool guy can't possibly beat Ian? Because he is anything but just a cool guy. And Cindy reaction shows that.
First of all, if you open your eyes I only replied to the bit I QUOTED which was "what Ian can provide vs Axel" second I would Agree to disagree and will say Axel is nothing but a cool guy who provides nothing other than a professional lift in Cindy's career. Moving on I don't think Cindy is a dumb character but selfish, She indulges with Ian bcz she was lacking emotional + Physical needs which Ian is providing both but Axel will only provide physical needs only(I BELIEVE from what we have seen so far) and Cindy's reaction only shows that nothing else. Now I'm not saying that Axel can't pull Cindy but I'm simply saying It all depends on EK how she wants to move story forward. But Ian is already ahead in race with Axel. What is so difficult to understand in this?
 

Esti

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call me a naive romantic or maybe a fool in a few updates
I wouldn't, because I wish you luck. If like when love trumps all. I just don't believe that it happens often. But maybe EK does.


she shows a lack of experience compared to more "physical" girls like Cherry or Lena. Now if you are just fucking her for the sex or you say you love her but you continue to fuck others, she's also the kind of girl who would absolutely fuck a guy just to spite you.
That is true, but she also lacks avareness both Cherry and Lena have. They know that Axel is toxic and still have a hard time gettying over him. Cindy doesn't know about the toxicity, but sees all the the good things he can provide. If you think that Ian has enough going for him to beat all this things...
 

yuvce

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That is true, but she also lacks avareness both Cherry and Lena have. They know that Axel is toxic and still have a hard time gettying over him. Cindy doesn't know about the toxicity, but sees all the the good things he can provide.
She's gonna find out a lot sooner than she thinks. The only question is before or after she officially dumps Wade. I'm kinda looking forward to Lena's "I told you so" if she decided to warn Cindy.
 

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She's gonna find out a lot sooner than she thinks. The only question is before or after she officially dumps Wade. I'm kinda looking forward to Lena's "I told you so" if she decided to warn Cindy.
I believe we might get a scene in CH12 OR CH13 where Ian might address AxelxCindy rumors(Yes! none of it is confirmed YET!) as now Lena is also in story so things might speed up a bit.:coffee:
 
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Esti

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Now I'm not saying that Axel can't pull Cindy but I'm simply saying It all depends on EK how she wants to move story forward. But Ian is already ahead in race with Axel. What is so difficult to understand in this?
You see, there is nothing difficult to understand in this. And of course it depends on EK. And even moreso, I have nothing against happy romance with Cindy. The thing is, your faith that Ian will surely beat all Axel charms is like your faith that EK surely was planning IanxIvy romance from the start... Maybe relyes more on your wishing it to be true than on sound logic. I wouldn't be so shure that Ian is ahead in that race if I were you. But If you want to believe that so strongly, then by all means... And I wouldn't even answer you anymore if that's the case.
 
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