VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 BETA] [Eva Kiss]

[Deleted member 2015572]

But why do you expect them to be in a serious relationship at all? They are going to be fuck buddies. Both are quite horny, both can't get over their breakup, and both aren't really looking forward to feeling the pain that comes with serious relationships. Have you seen the movie "Friends with Benefits" with Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis? Yes, this is exactly the plot of the movie. They're best buddies but they also want sex. And it happens so that they have hots for each other. So they bang, no strings attached. And only over time, slowly, they understand that they're falling for each other and that they actually might find happiness again if they try being in a relationship once again, this time with each other. That's what's going to be like for Ian and Alison. They're not going to be boyfriend and girlfriend right from the start so that Alison could start cheating. No. She's not a cheater. But she isn't ready to make any kind of commitments. If Ian falls for her and asks her to be his girlfriend right away, he'd be a fool and he would get friend-zoned by her. Mark my words (screen it), I'm going to be right.

You could definitely be right. Although in the movie they only bang each other and with Jeremy in the picture I can't see that happening here. I also don't get how Jeremy doesn't care at all how Ian feels about a girl. Atleast it seems that way with Alison (don't know whether it was the right decision to show Lena to him or not)

 

[BloodyMares]

You could definitely be right. Although in the movie they only bang each other and with Jeremy in the picture I can't see that happening here. I also don't get how Jeremy doesn't care at all how Ian feels about a girl. Atleast it seems that way with Alison (don't know whether it was the right decision to show Lena to him or not)

Yes, the movie didn't have a foil to either character, a "Jeremy" so to speak. But here it makes things more interesting so that Ian doesn't get things handed to him. Jeremy is just a dog, he will follow any pussy that gets in his eyesight, even if it means competing with his good friend over one. "Hoes before bros". Also, I don't think Jeremy is going to bark up Alison's tree any longer now that Alison has shown him who she's really into. The final dialogue is very showing. Jeremy tries to flirt with Alison, saying how he can let her in the club if he gets to decide on her outfits in the future, but she shuts him down hard, almost humiliating him, saying how she'd rather pay the entrance fee than let him decide on anything, following by her suggestion that it should be Ian to approve of her dressing choices. Mic drop. At this point, he doesn't stand a chance and leaves in defeat. And I think at this point Alison realizes that she doesn't really need to fool around with Jeremy if Ian is ready to show her a good time. Now, if in the future he backpedals or gives more attention to other girls instead, she's going to play again. If however, he focuses on her, shows his support, care, and desire, she's going to be so grateful and responsive. And then they can end up together as a couple after making sure that they can make each other happy and won't betray one another.

 

[SpikeZg]

But why do you expect them to be in a serious relationship at all? They are going to be fuck buddies. Both are quite horny, both can't get over their breakup, and both aren't really looking forward to feeling the pain that comes with serious relationships. Have you seen the movie "Friends with Benefits" with Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis? Yes, this is exactly the plot of the movie. They're best buddies but they also want sex. And it happens so that they have hots for each other. So they bang, no strings attached. And only over time, slowly, they understand that they're falling for each other and that they actually might find happiness again if they try being in a relationship once again, this time with each other. That's what's going to be like for Ian and Alison. They're not going to be boyfriend and girlfriend right from the start so that Alison could start cheating. No. She's not a cheater. But she isn't ready to make any kind of commitments. If Ian falls for her and asks her to be his girlfriend right away, he'd be a fool and he would get friend-zoned by her. Mark my words (screen it), I'm going to be right.

I don't, but i don't want for Ian to fuck her one night and the other she fucks Jeremy and then he comes over and starts braging how he fucked her so hard, she was screaming like crazy, did she scream with you? And yeah, she said no one has ever fucked me like that...
Oh shit look at the time i gota run Ian, i'm late for a date with that needy bitch Louise, bye dude

 

[Deleted member 563623]

Do we know what 'alpha version' means in this case? Like, is it content complete bug hunting? Or will the final version have more content for 2 days with each protagonist to even it out?

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Hardly the negatives. I can present a reverse Uno card and explain how all of them are actually positives. To be honest, It's not the game's fault or Eva Kiss' fault that you only care about for porn.

1. As I said, it's really personal. I'm here for the story first and I love the plot and deeper characters. The sex scenes are meant to be unsatisfying. I'll tell you why in a minute.
2. Yes, she went for more realism. And Ian is 27, while Lena is 23. Both are responsible adults and care about their health. Truthfully I'm tired of all the unrealistic condomless sex in porn games. Condoms should be more welcomed in regular porn as well. All the testing is not shown on camera so teenagers may get the wrong idea from that. Eva is being a responsible game developer and teaches kids (let's be real, it's easy to access porn for underage teens) that it's important to be prepared. Safety first.
3. That's what's called having a developed protagonist. GGGB was different because Ashley was a clean slate, and you can pretty much define her personality and thoughts yourself. With ORS however, we have defined Ian and Lena, with their own goals, their own dreams, their own personalities. Think of The Witcher for example. You can't define his thoughts, you can only say different things and choose different actions. But all of those options are based on Geralt's personality. Same here. Choosing to sleep with other people felt wrong for them because they're destined to be together. It's their Red String that cockblocks them, hinting that it's not what they're supposed to be doing, and instead, focus on each other.
4. As I said, it's just you. Didn't feel anything off with the pacing. The storytelling was tight. If it was even more rushed, all the character development would've gone to the toilet. Not a single line is felt like a filler. Everything was either for character development or setups for future story developments.

For your 2nd point, this is an adult game though, not an educational tool for kids. So, I don't agree with that point at all nor do I think it was Eva's reasoning for adding it.

 

[maxxxzimus]

I hope I cleared things out for you. With this new context, and without any illusions, can you really blame her for her actions?

I never said I blame her and I totally understand what she wants. It's her life and she does what she wants with it. I just don't think that it's really smart for her to flirt so openly with both of them at the same time, especially when all 3 of them are together. Pick your favorite and see how it goes, don't make two friends compete for your attention. I know Jeremy is OK with it, but I don't think Ian would want a girl that will sleep around with other guys.

 

[Ragnar]

I hope that in future updates the sex scenes will be more exciting. In GGGB there were some with condoms, but here they look very aseptic.I don't know if because of the condom or the new visual style.

 

[Sanchopansa]

Hardly the negatives. I can present a reverse Uno card and explain how all of them are actually positives. To be honest, It's not the game's fault or Eva Kiss' fault that you only care about for porn.

1. As I said, it's really personal. I'm here for the story first and I love the plot and deeper characters. The sex scenes are meant to be unsatisfying. I'll tell you why in a minute.
2. Yes, she went for more realism. And Ian is 27, while Lena is 23. Both are responsible adults and care about their health. Truthfully I'm tired of all the unrealistic condomless sex in porn games. Condoms should be more welcomed in regular porn as well. All the testing is not shown on camera so teenagers may get the wrong idea from that. Eva is being a responsible game developer and teaches kids (let's be real, it's easy to access porn for underage teens) that it's important to be prepared. Safety first.
3. That's what's called having a developed protagonist. GGGB was different because Ashley was a clean slate, and you can pretty much define her personality and thoughts yourself. With ORS however, we have defined Ian and Lena, with their own goals, their own dreams, their own personalities. Think of The Witcher for example. You can't define his thoughts, you can only say different things and choose different actions. But all of those options are based on Geralt's personality. Same here. Choosing to sleep with other people felt wrong for them because they're destined to be together. It's their Red String that cockblocks them, hinting that it's now what they're supposed to be doing, and instead, focus on each other.
4. As I said, it's just you. Didn't feel anything off with the pacing. The storytelling was tight. If it was even more rushed, all the character development would've gone to the toilet. Not a single line is felt like a filler. Everything was either for character development or setups for future story developments.

That was really nice of you to jump into conclusions like that. If I cared ONLY about the porn I wouldn't have been full of praise of Evakiss' games. I only said that I feel it shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of the story, both can be great. It's only 0.2 though, so I'm still excited about the future of this game.

Also, points 1, 2 and 4 were my just my opinion and I can't make anyone feel the same way, nor was I trying to. However, point 3 would be a big flaw if it continues in future updates. What's the point of having decisions when the narative leads you to a certain path? Thus far in this game, if you choose to stick to decisions the game leads you to, you'd see no sex scenes at all! since having sex with random people would be out of character for both MCs. If you choose to go for the sex scenes, you'd ruin the narative somewhat. Kinda defeats the purpose of the game.

 

[BloodyMares]

I don't, but i don't want for Ian to fuck her one night and the other she fucks Jeremy and then he comes over and starts braging how he fucked her so hard, she was screaming like crazy, did she scream with you? And yeah, she said no one has ever fucked me like that...
Oh shit look at the time i gota run Ian, i'm late for a date with that needy bitch Louise, bye dude

Well, none of that is Alison's fault, is it? It's Jeremy being a bragging asshole that he is. He is bragging about Ivy, he is bragging about Alison, he even brags about Louise, although reluctantly, without saying her name. I think he's with her out of some moral obligation, thinking that he needs to care about his "girlfriend"'s needs, but he feels like she wants to hold him by his balls. Hell, he's especially gonna brag about Lena if he gets lucky with her. No doubt next time he's going to brag about Cindy as well, telling how Wade lost it, and how he should've done a better job as a boyfriend.
Alison, however, just wants to have fun for herself without going into too many details. She is a nice person and would never knowingly hurt Ian. If he's honest with her I'm sure she's going to understand, she'll apologize for making him feel this way, but she'll also explain how they're not really dating and that she wants to continue to enjoy her freedom. It would be Ian's fault if he falls for her (just like many commenters' here for having illusions about Alison), not Alison's.

 

[SpikeZg]

Also one strange thing, in GGGB i had no problem turning Ashley into a total slut, no feelings for her whatsoever but with Lena, fuck no, i care for her, she seems so nice and adorable, i just feel bad

 

[msleomac]

Do we know what 'alpha version' means in this case? Like, is it content complete bug hunting? Or will the final version have more content for 2 days with each protagonist to even it out?

Alpha means first version. Then any kinks and bugs are ironed out and rolled out in Beta version. Evakiss also rolls out a final version but there is never any changes from beta except for perhaps cosmentic changes

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Ok, let's hear it boys, your current top 3 girls

Mine:
1. Lena
2. Cindy
3. Cherry

My top 5:
1. Cindy
2. Cherry
3. Ivy
4. Alison
5. Holly

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Also one strange thing, in GGGB i had no problem turning Ashley into a total slut, no feelings for her whatsoever but with Lena, fuck no, i care for her, she seems so nice and adorable, i just feel bad

I cared about Ashley like I do Lena but they shall both succumb to the same fate

 

[Ragnar]

Also one strange thing, in GGGB i had no problem turning Ashley into a total slut, no feelings for her whatsoever but with Lena, fuck no, i care for her, she seems so nice and adorable, i just feel bad

Still the path is there for her, she will end banging dozens in some playthrough. Hell, she just sucked a dick and then kissed Ian

 

[jtc]

Yes, I agree. It seems like female devs tend to make better written erotic games. Eva's style reminds me so much of Tlaero.

I haven't played Eva's first game, but when playing this one the Tlaero comparison definitely came to my mind as well.

Tlaero is my favorite writer in this genre and Eva seems strong too based on the little I've seen from her. Maybe women do make better erotic games (they're more realistic, for sure).

 

[Ragnar]

1-Cindy
2-Holly
3-Lena
And the boss lady, I want to bang her ass.

 

[maxxxzimus]

I don't know why but what Alison's doing feels out of character to me, when she first appeared it didn't strike me that she would be that kind of a woman that jumps on the first dick she sees, she shows interest in Ian and knows that he's interested in her but still she goes with Jeremy even though Ian told her that he's out with another girl, unless I'm missing something or maybe she's just a horny bitch.

On second though, you're totally right. How Alison acts is definitely not who she is. I just remember something and decided to test it out. If you go with her to the bar to get the shots, she asks him again about the clothes she wears. If Ian says that clothes suit her, Alison admits that she wasn't sure about it and even says that she can't remember the last time she dressed like this. I guess constant search for attention and appreciation is how she deals with a breakup, but she definitely goes overboard with this. She says that she's not looking for relationship but I don't think it's really the case, that's why she prefers Ian. But when she acts like that, she only makes everything worse for both of them.

 

[BloodyMares]

I never said I blame her and I totally understand what she wants. It's her life and she does what she wants with it. I just don't think that it's really smart for her to flirt so openly with both of them at the same time, especially when all 3 of them are together. Pick your favorite and see how it goes, don't make two friends compete for your attention. I know Jeremy is OK with it, but I don't think Ian would want a girl that will sleep around with other guys.

Your last sentence is weird. Ian doesn't really look for a girl right now either. Not for an open relationship, not for any kind of relationship. Not yet at least. He's open to what fate brings him but he doesn't actively search a girlfriend. Gillian is still causing PTSD for him and only Lena is able to distract him from those. But even with her, he tries to act cautiously. Even after they kiss, he says how it doesn't really mean anything serious, and so does Lena. They both enjoy it, but they realize that it was just flirting at this stage, and they're afraid to rush it to screw things up.
if you really think about it, Alison is no different from Lena. Lena can decide to follow Ivy's advice about picking up the first guy and getting laid to forget about Axel, just like Alison is open for sex with either Ian or Jeremy to not forget about her sorry ass ex-boyfriend. It's just, Lena, unlike Alison, for an unknown reason, shares an emotional bond with Ian and she just can't enjoy her one night stand with Robert. The fact that he acts like a douche, demanding Lena to pleasure him and not reciprocating, makes things worse and ruins the day for her. Alison doesn't suffer this inconvenience, so she can enjoy either Ian if he'll take her, or Jeremy as plan B. And truth be told, we don't really hear what goes on in Alison's head. Maybe she's not that into Jeremy and almost prays that Ian catches her signals and takes her instead. Jeremy for her is exactly what Robert is for Lena. A distraction.

 

[joe powa]

Is lesbian planned ? I'm dying for a Lena x Ivy relationship, or louise x Lena

 

[lockerxx]

Is lesbian planned ? I'm dying for a Lena x Ivy relationship, or louise x Lena

yes.when? only eva-kiss knows