Leonardovisk

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So...the fact that Ivy saw Ian fucking Wane's girlfriend didn't have any consequences?

Doesn't she tell Lena or did I miss that part? I dont get it!
 

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hey guys I have question:

What Choices do I have to make If I want Minerva to be nice to me (chapter 8)?


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Just be sleeping with her and during the morning of chapter 8 don't slap her ass nor try to tease her, if you avoid both of those options then you should be able to get the option to tell her to try being nicer in the future.
So...the fact that Ivy saw Ian fucking Wane's girlfriend didn't have any consequences?

Doesn't she tell Lena or did I miss that part? I dont get it!
Hedging her bets, don't trust Ivy. For all of Ivy's justifications about how she flirting with Jeremy was a "favor" to Louise by revealing what kind of man he really is, she doesn't seem to be in a hurry to extend that same courtesy to her best friend...

I expect Ivy to hold that little secret over Ian's head to force him into going along with whatever she wants in the future (probably have Ian encourage Lena's corruption and threesomes).
 
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Yeah it seems lena can't say she's into bbc to holly and ivy even if she could say it during the dare game, you can only say it if she gave a hand/blowjob to jeremy at the end of the game. This is true for the majority of the options almost all of them are greyed out now that were not grey in the dare so it seems quite bugged
 

Leonardovisk

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Just be sleeping with her and during the morning of chapter 8 don't slap her ass nor try to tease her, if you avoid both of those options then you should be able to get the option to tell her to try being nicer in the future.

Hedging her bets, don't trust Ivy. For all of Ivy's justifications about how she flirting with Jeremy was a "favor" to Louise by revealing what kind of man he really is, she doesn't seem to be in a hurry to extend that same courtesy to her best friend...

I expect Ivy to hold that little secret over Ian's head to force him into going along with whatever she wants in the future (probably have Ian encourage Lena's corruption and threesomes).
I liked Ivy. I thought she would be the "Jessica" from GoodGirl to ORS but now im getting suspicious of her.

And, to be honest, her slut/modern personality is starting to piss me off. I dont like the Holly/Ivy/Lena scene,
seems like a reboot or fanservice of the truth game scene in ch7.

Or i lost in something and need replay again.
 

dundun

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I liked Ivy. I thought she would be the "Jessica" from GoodGirl to ORS but now im getting suspicious of her.

And, to be honest, her slut/modern personality is starting to piss me off.
I totally agree.
I dont like the Holly/Ivy/Lena scene, seems like a reboot or fanservice of the truth game scene in ch7.
I totally disagree :D. Everyone paints Holly as this little, innocent even virginal girl. She is shy, but not so innocent. It's her that kisses Ian back in ch7 and she is quite eager to follow Ivy's instructions here. I am looking forward to what happens if you lead her down deeper into the rabbits hole.
 

Leonardovisk

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Or i missunderstand something and need replay again.
I totally agree.

I totally disagree :D. Everyone paints Holly as this little, innocent even virginal girl. She is shy, but not so innocent. It's her that kisses Ian back in ch7 and she is quite eager to follow Ivy's instructions here. I am looking forward to what happens if you lead her down deeper into the rabbits hole.
Yeah, maybe im wrong. I think i dont liked that part because the way Ivy led her.

But let me say something about the Ian using drugs....OMG, best part ever!

I would never expect have a chat with GOD about existencialism Sartre's fundaments in a sexgame. Thats hit me hard haha

I was here to see sex comic images but now im on another level. What a epic game!
 
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Can somebody who plays the Beta tell if the Changes to the Scene where Ian goes to the café to talk to Lena about the situation with Holly are good or how they feel about them?

I actually want to wait for the finale release of Chapter 8 before I play again so this would be a nice little Information :D
 

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(Spoilers!) I've revised the scene many people critiqued, where Ian goes to the café to talk to Lena about the situation with Holly. I hope I did a better job representing how the characters feel and react in that situation. Also, now Lena can only get intimate with Holly if she's not dating Ian. It felt wrong having Lena sleep with her after the fallout caused by Ian if they're on a relationship.
hmm... So sexual options are being restricted because they don't 'feel right'? I'm not one for f/f so this specific one doesn't matter to me, but that could be a worrisome trend. I can't imagine, for example, that it feels right for Lena to have sex with Jeremy who is both her close friend's boyfriend and one of her boyfriend's close friends...

Seems inconsistent. But i haven't actually read the scenes in question so maybe i'm misinterpreting.
 

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hmm... So sexual options are being restricted because they don't 'feel right'? I'm not one for f/f so this specific one doesn't matter to me, but that could be a worrisome trend. I can't imagine, for example, that it feels right for Lena to have sex with Jeremy who is both her close friend's boyfriend and one of her boyfriend's close friends...

Seems inconsistent. But i haven't actually read the scenes in question so maybe i'm misinterpreting.
I agree, it also removes some of the sandbox aspects, that you can fuck and cheat to the player's desire, within reason, from the game.

I suspect that perhaps Eva feels there are too many variable states surrounding Ian/Lena/Holly so she is restricting accessibility?
 
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Can somebody who plays the Beta tell if the Changes to the Scene where Ian goes to the café to talk to Lena about the situation with Holly are good or how they feel about them?

I actually want to wait for the finale release of Chapter 8 before I play again so this would be a nice little Information :D
In the sense that Ian can be more assertive and bring up Lena's own indescretions against her? No, he still folds so that's pretty much the same.

I get what she's going for, in that it's specifically Holly and if it was anyone else, then she'd be fine, but this is still hypocritical if Lena is pursuing Jeremy and I'm all for her character having these personality flaws. I didn't want her to re-write Lena's thought process anyway, so there could still be time for her to add such an option for Ian in future updates. Even if she feels that Ian is wrong, it'd still be a good option to add in my opinion.

I agree, it also removes some of the sandbox aspects, that you can fuck and cheat to the player's desire, within reason, from the game.

I suspect that perhaps Eva feels there are too many variable states surrounding Ian/Lena/Holly so she is restricting accessibility?
Maybe it'd be better if Lena could still attempt it if the player desired but she would just get shot down. Even in the Alpha though, if Holly was involved with Ian, and Slutty Lena was sleeping around with everyone, the option to try to sleep with Holly would still be greyed out, so maybe it is consistent.
 

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I mean, her sexual fantasy is a hot guy whose face she can't even see, that's "too strong to resist" coming up behind her and fucking her. She's got a very dark submissive side to her.
TRUE I am fucked dude holly is my only relationship option with Ian(and my Ian is weak as fuck) in my run and Ivy is destroying her :devilish: :devilish:
 
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I agree, it also removes some of the sandbox aspects, that you can fuck and cheat to the player's desire, within reason, from the game.

I suspect that perhaps Eva feels there are too many variable states surrounding Ian/Lena/Holly so she is restricting accessibility?
I guess that for those characters, as EvaKiss envisions them, the logical consequences would affect the story too drastically and their relationships being at the very least amicable is necessary to keep the plot functional.

I think something that gets a bit overlooked are the implications for Holly's character if the scene with Lena were to happen while Lena and Ian are dating. Like, the player can make Lena's character be very hypocritical (in particular with what she might be trying to do with Jeremy), so in that sense I don't think it would be too out of character for her to go after Holly, but would Holly accept her kiss after being made aware in chapter 8 that Ian and Lena are indeed dating and starting to get serious? I feel Holly as a character wouldn't do that, she's too sincere and wouldn't want to be complicit with Lena cheating on Ian, and things would be very awkward for the character dynamics if she had to refuse Lena.

So my guess is that's why EvaKiss just straight up blocked the decision if there is a set relationship between those 3 characters, not because proposing at that point would be too out of character for Lena, but because it would put Holly's character into an impossible situation that would affect too many story threads.
 
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hmm... So sexual options are being restricted because they don't 'feel right'? I'm not one for f/f so this specific one doesn't matter to me, but that could be a worrisome trend. I can't imagine, for example, that it feels right for Lena to have sex with Jeremy who is both her close friend's boyfriend and one of her boyfriend's close friends...

Seems inconsistent. But i haven't actually read the scenes in question so maybe i'm misinterpreting.
My image of Slutty Lena doesn't match the image of a Lena who would go to bed with Holly. I might have a twisted impression too, but to me the LenaxHolly relationship looks very sweet, simple and wholesome. That's not the same Lena who craves Jeremy's cock. If that's so, that wouldn't make it inconsistent. Maybe that's what Eva has in mind as well, but that's just my guess.
I mean, her sexual fantasy is a hot guy whose face she can't even see, that's "too strong to resist" coming up behind her and fucking her. She's got a very dark submissive side to her.
Yes and I can't wait to explore that fantasy further :devilish:

Maybe I am the only one, but Holly gives me a slight Harleen Quinzel vibe. She appears so extremely wholesome outwardly that she might become extremely corrupted if taken towards that direction :devilish:
 
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I there any way to keep ian and lena as a will they or wont they scenario? it seems like if lena accepts ians date in chapter 4 even if in every scenario you choose no kissing and that they arent sure about each other you get forced into a few sex scenes.
 
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Massi89

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It's because of the way lena_fty_bbc is used. It can be acquired not only when Lena admits to having fantasies about BBC, but also when she blows Jeremy. In this chapter, the requirement for Lena to admit having the BBC fantasy is v8_jeremy_flirt (which she can only do if she already has this fantasy). I assume that initially, Eva wanted for Lena to confirm in this chapter her newly-discovered lust for Jeremy by admitting this fantasy if she hasn't already, but because lena_fty_bbc can be acquired in several ways, and v8_jeremy_flirt requires this variable, she can't admit to having this fantasy if she didn't participate in Ivy's game or didn't unlock Louise's phone.
I definitely felt that this was a bit weird, cause during the game in chapter 7 I had already chosen the BBC option, yet I was given the chance to make her say it again in ch8... :unsure:
 

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I there any way to keep ian and lena as a will they or wont they scenario? it seems like if lena accepts ians date in chapter 4 even if in every scenario you choose no kissing and that they arent sure about each other you get forced into a few sex scenes.
I haven't done a playtest to check, but I think the dev intended to be possible for Ian and Lena to not sleep with each other even while dating and all the way to chapter 8 (there's some dialogue in the game's code for such a scenario).

Maybe to prevent some of those scenes you got automatically, you need Lena to be doing Robert and/or Mike on the side (they sometimes come up as alternatives to Ian for some scenes).
 
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