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aykarin

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It's obvious and has already been stated that this update (although very good in my opinion) severely neglected Emma and Louise who don't have a single scene. They are not side characters, but major ones (at least significantly more important than Stan and Ed who are also completely sidelined). It's obvious that Eva did this because she focused on more popular characters like Cindy and that's understandable, but it's still a shame. I really hope that the upcoming beta & final versions will add some content to Emma and/or Louise (and also change her silly, badly written conflict with Lena that has no reason other than justifying not giving Louise a scene).

Also, I think the problem with these two characters (Emma, Louise) is bigger than just lack of sex scenes in the new chapter. With Louise, the main problem is that she has very few interactions with characters other than Lena. Despite being Jeremy's "girlfriend", 99% of their relationship is off-screen. In the early chapters the game at least showed us glimpses of it, like when Lena spied on them having sex, or when Jeremy showed Ian, Perry and Wade pics of Louise. It's a shame that Eva didn't give Louise a chance to meet Ian. It could have easily happened during his visit to Lena or after a training session if Louise decided to come pick up Jeremy from the gym. Because nothing like this ever happened, Louise is now much less interesting character than before. In the early stages of the game, she was one of my favorite girls, but right now her role has been reduced to Lena's roommate who gives her occasional sex relief (even though these scenes are quite good). In Chapter 9 we don't get even that.

Emma's situation is a bit better, because she is a part of Ian's circle of friends so she has many interactions with several characters. But when Ian, Perry, Wade (and sometimes Cindy) hang up, she rarely shows up. Most of the time the game simply informs us that she is busy with her work or with her political activity. Her role in the plot could be bigger - she could possibly serve as an ally to Lena if she goes against Seymour. We already know Emma hates Seymour and she engages in politics; she surely knows many people who are Seymour's enemies (not anybody influential, but city activists and protesters could also have impact when in large numbers). Also, Perry who is the mayor's son, is infatuated with Emma. So Emma through her influence over Perry and her connections to Seymour's political enemies could be a valuable asset to "good" Lena.

It would be great if Eva didn't stop at giving Emma and Louise a one or two more sex scenes that have minimal meaning, but actually gave them a role in the plot that they deserve. Both of them were introduced as members of the main cast and even though they are not the most popular female characters right now, they still have many fans.
 

BlandChili

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Dec 15, 2020
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I expected a lot more scenes to be honest for a 5 month update
Ian has scenes with all his options except Minerva and Emma I think, Lena has scenes with all of hers minus Louise and Holly I think? But plus Axel and Seymour. There are also Ivy/Holly and Jeremy/Alison stuff. That's all I recall as such.

What more were you expecting?
Why is the size of this update so much smaller than previous updates?
New image format.
 
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IllusionA2

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I only did two quick runs of Chapter 9, one using a file where I banged Holly and one using a file where I banged Cindy, but what happened with other relationships in-between I couldn't really remember. But from what I can tell, it's not much happening, especially after a FOUR MONTH wait. I mean we shouldn't complain about the wait, we're freeloading on this site but I've also subbed for Eva's patreon, though I can't say I'd remain a monthly sub if the updates are gonna take this long. And with the way Patreon does their subs, unless you remember to sub on the first or second of the month, you're not getting much out of it.

But it doesn't seem like much happens. From what I can tell, the amount of action that occurs is:
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Many events are mutually exclusive and you do have to make the commitment on a lot of relationships, and seems like if you banged Holly previously,
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And even with the tease of a threesome there is no threesome happening. With the way GGGB takes a nosedive towards gangbangs and DPs and stuff this is way too tame for me. And wtf is up with Allison being the most naughty girl and yet won't
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Dumbest plot point.

I am sure there are Mike or Robert scenes I've missed but again, it seems like you'd have to consolidate your relationships instead of fucking everyone. And Cherry scene doesn't seem to trigger either even if I choose the heart option, you'd have to be super close with her and nobody else or something.
 
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neutral1

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Yea, that's a good point. I think everybody's been looking for a Ian/Lena/Holly threesome or even relationship since Ch 2, and it looks a long way off right now.
 

MacAdGames

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I don't understand why so much whining here, I for one thought this was a great update.

Ian confessed his love for Cindy and before Cindy replies she get's interrupted, now that's something I believe takes the story to some another level and makes we wonder what'll Cindy do now.

The only thing I wish this update could've had is some Ivy, Stan or Ed scenes as it seems like they have been ignored for far too long now, it seemed like a perfect opportunity to give them some limelight.

May be some
Ed + Lena
Stan + Lena
Jeremy + Ivy
Ian + Louise (as Ian masturbates and fantasied about her in previous update)
Ian + Ivy (Doesn't seem possible but just a Wish) and finally
Stan + Ivy (Not gonna happen I know but just image how crazy would it be)
 
Dec 8, 2018
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The thought occurred to me that since Alison is based off of the pornstar August Ames, her refusal to have anal sex might be some type of homage since August was known not to do anal. Granted, it is a super-fringe theory, but I hope it is not the case.

It would be great if Eva didn't stop at giving Emma and Louise a one or two more sex scenes that have minimal meaning, but actually gave them a role in the plot that they deserve. Both of them were introduced as members of the main cast and even though they are not the most popular female characters right now, they still have many fans.
Lena's conflict with Ward is just heating up with this latest chapter. I think you are correct that Emma will be able to help her out against him and I would argue she already has a major role in the story (only to be increased for Ward's arc). That being said, I agree with you on Louise.

Thanks for this. I had no idea there were scenes with Minerva already. For those who found it organically, is this triggered simply by raising her relationship above a certain threshold, or is there a specific choice that leads to this?
To unlock Minerva's route, you should focus on lowering her relationship with Ian. She'll call him to her office to fire him and if your attributes (Wits or Charisma I believe) are high enough it opens the relationship. There are two subroutes right now; either romantic or dominant. The scenes are great and it is one of my favourite paths in the game.
 

jduk

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You could also avoid Ian jerking off to the footage by just not watching the footage.

You've missed my point.

What I'm saying is that once you obtain the pics/vids access, it's entirely out of your control that Ian jerks off to Jeremy's pics/vids. Saying "Just don't get the pics/vids" doesn't really mean anything. I'm not asking about how I can avoid that situation, just pointing out that it's strange that there are specific aspects of the scenario that are out of your control.

It's particularly strange since earlier in the game, you could pick and choose which pics to jerk off to, whether they're Louise's, Cherry's, or whoever. Each of these choices has a different implication, if you jerk off to Louise you're jerking off to Jeremy's "girlfriend", which is much more taboo than jerking off to nudes Lena, Alison, or Cherry sent you. So, I'm just confused as to why there's kinda an inconsistency.

Ideally I'd want my Ian to get pics and vids from Jeremy without jerking off to them, cause that part is kinda cucky and weird from my POV.
Ian cuck route on it's way... If he agrees to Jeremy Alison threesome, he will have a cuck role too probably, he will feel little compared to BBC.
 
Dec 8, 2018
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I don't understand why so much whining here, I for one thought this was a great update.

Ian confessed his love for Cindy and before Cindy replies she get's interrupted, now that's something I believe takes the story to some another level and makes we wonder what'll Cindy do now.

The only thing I wish this update could've had is some Ivy, Stan or Ed scenes as it seems like they have been ignored for far too long now, it seemed like a perfect opportunity to give them some limelight.
At first I was disappointed since my playthrough blocked me from getting with Cindy and neither Ian or Lena had any other relationships going on (I guess I'm just bad at this game). Restarted from scratch with a far more satisfying playthrough and I now think this is probably the best update overall. Not only lots of great scenes, but the storyline felt better planned and I encountered fewer bugs and spelling errors.
 

CassieBare

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I honestly think what Eva needs is a writer (or two) and give each of them one of the characters to write for each chapter and explicitly give a broad-strokes of what she's looking for and number of scenes. Then we'd have content for all the characters each chapter rather than these slowly disappearing characters or characters who rotate in and out.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Lena needs to be the one sleeping around, it seems Louise should count for that though, as long as you haven't been rejecting her at all in her previous scenes.
That looks to be the case. My labeled Final saves only focused on certain characters I cared about in the path abbreviation names I made, so I just assumed I was playing with a Lena who had slept with Louise, since she has in most of my playthroughs. My Lena did reject her in each playthrough after messing around with her a few times though. So could be either A - you can't reject her at all (or with a minimal reject threshold), maybe based on Heart decisions, or B - it was a rare save where they never messed around. Just did a speed playthrough with Lena never rejecting her and the option did finally come up.... But Ian wasn't at high enough lust to make the selection. Fuck.
 
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