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Princess Groundhog

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considering the reasons why a lot of people like Stan, I wonder if changing him (either in terms of a makeover or whatever Eva is planning to do to him) will actually be a welcome thing?
I still don’t understand why so many people like him, and he was the third most popular male character in the poll, mind mowing! I think this is a good thing, make him a better character, closer to Marco in Lust Campus. The way he is now he’s creepy, stealing panties and jerking off to Lena’s pics. Not someone Lena would be romantically interested in.
 

bonerland

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So...Lena start making a rework (remaster, call it what you like) of ORS first nine chapters. That means chapter ten we will not see earlier than in 5-6 months. Thanks to Stan's crying fans
First of all, it's Evakiss. Lena is the female PC. That's a simple and gross overstatement. Stan's storyline is getting reworked. That is a handful of scenes at most. Calm yourself.
 

bonerland

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I still don’t understand why so many people like him, and he was the third most popular male character in the poll, mind mowing! I think this is a good thing, make him a better character, closer to Marco in Lust Campus. The way he is now he’s creepy, stealing panties and jerking off to Lena’s pics. Not someone Lena would be romantically interested in.
Pretty sure that was the cat who was the panty thief. Reworking him to not jerk off to Lena when she's getting railed would be about the only serious scene change I can think of.
 

Master5043

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I still don’t understand why so many people like him, and he was the third most popular male character in the poll, mind mowing! I think this is a good thing, make him a better character, closer to Marco in Lust Campus. The way he is now he’s creepy, stealing panties and jerking off to Lena’s pics. Not someone Lena would be romantically interested in.
Agree. He is perceived as a negative character. I do not understand why it should be altered, "because part of the audience wants it this way". Eva follows the lead of a group of crying fans, delaying development. She herself admitted that she doesn't like Stan.
 

dundun

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Oh, also, I hope she don't go the 'big dick' route with Stan, or at least not in terms of length - average length but girthy might be interesting for a change (I can't recall seeing that in many games, and girth is ftw). If there's too many characters with horse dicks it makes the characters who have said dicks feel less unique, and IMO there's no need for a big dick if he's an interesting character and/or knows how to work with what he's got anyway.
Ah, yes. Unfortunately EvaKiss seems really infatuated with the whole big dick trope. There are a lot of guys tickling that kink and Ashley/Lena are always into it.

So...Eva start making a rework (remaster, call it what you like) of ORS first nine chapters. That means chapter ten we will not see earlier than in 5-6 months. Thanks to Stan's crying fans
Can't remember any fan of Stan ever to request a rewrite.

The way he is now he’s creepy, stealing panties and jerking off to Lena’s pics. Not someone Lena would be romantically interested in.
Ah, these disgusting people sitting in the privacy of their room and jerking off to pictures on their computers! They are really the worst :sneaky:
 

Zedire

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It just makes me wonder, is anyone truly interested in a bona fide 'healthy romance' with Stan? Of course we want a healthy romance for Lena, but considering the meager pickings in that regard in her storyline, you'd think Eva could make the alternative to Ian (aka. the only other healthy choice) a bit more appealing rather then just reworking Stan.

And it makes me wonder whether Stan fans would even like Stan when he looses the pervy, simp traits that he's associated with right now? He's not exactly going to be the same character they like anymore.

If the point is to have a nerdy or polar-opposite-to-Axel choice, you could just as easily use Perry to fulfill that role. That way you could free up Stan's position in the game for a whole new male character who's easy on the eyes and a 'healthy' option.
 

Tarrang

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It just makes me wonder, is anyone truly interested in a bona fide 'healthy romance' with Stan? Of course we want a healthy romance for Lena, but considering the meager pickings in that regard in her storyline, you'd think Eva could make the alternative to Ian (aka. the only other healthy choice) a bit more appealing rather then just reworking Stan.

And it makes me wonder whether Stan fans would even like Stan when he looses the pervy, simp traits that he's associated with right now? He's not exactly going to be the same character they like anymore.

If the point is to have a nerdy or polar-opposite-to-Axel choice, you could just as easily use Perry to fulfill that role. That way you could free up Stan's position in the game for a whole new male character who's easy on the eyes and a 'healthy' option.

And not require a major change that requires a restart.
 

Reaurt

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I think for Stan, the process will be a more in-depth version of Robert's re-write from early on in game development. Robert used to be really unlikable. Now while he's still a douche, I could see someone like Lena giving him a shot if the situation was right. Even if I usually don't have Lena do that. :sneaky: For Stan, besides dialogue re-writes like with Robert, some scenes will probably be removed or changed, and some variables changed/added/dropped.
 

dundun

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Jerking off to porn is one thing. When it’s of your roommate, that’s a bit different.
Ok, it is different. But where exactly is the line? Knowing someone? If so how close do you have to know someone before you can't masturbate to them? And if so what is your opinion on Lena masturbating to, say, Holly or Ian or Axel? Or is it the physical distance? So how close can you physically be to someone before you can't? :unsure:
I guess I am out of touch here. Don't worry, never had a roommate. :)

It just makes me wonder, is anyone truly interested in a bona fide 'healthy romance' with Stan? Of course we want a healthy romance for Lena, but considering the meager pickings in that regard in her storyline, you'd think Eva could make the alternative to Ian (aka. the only other healthy choice) a bit more appealing rather then just reworking Stan.

And it makes me wonder whether Stan fans would even like Stan when he looses the pervy, simp traits that he's associated with right now? He's not exactly going to be the same character they like anymore.

If the point is to have a nerdy or polar-opposite-to-Axel choice, you could just as easily use Perry to fulfill that role. That way you could free up Stan's position in the game for a whole new male character who's easy on the eyes and a 'healthy' option.
Yes, Stan would not be himself without him being smitten by Lena, shy, pervy and unattractive.
It reminds me of Robert. He also was 'rewritten' to become a 'good option for Lena' and we all know how that turned out. So I am worried about this. It is very hard to imagine them in an equal relationship, Lena is just so much more attractive than him she is basically a different species. Lena has a lot of options and, as this is still a porn game, is supposed to use them. Ian can be OK with that because he has options too, but Stan? How is he ever going to be able to handle this? And Lena disregard all other temptations to be with Stan... now where would be the fun in that?
So I fear we will just get a good looking new Robert Mike Stan 2.0 :rolleyes:

Maybe it's been hard for Eva to find decent reference videos/images for a character of Stan's...build. Can you imagine trawling through hours and hours of terrible amateur porn for potential Lena x Stan scenes? :ROFLMAO:
She already did it with Arthur/Bernard in GGGB. I think she'll just does some free hand drawing. For example if you look at here you can see that Ivy's upper half isn't traced at all.
 

Redgy

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Agree. He is perceived as a negative character. I do not understand why it should be altered, "because part of the audience wants it this way". Eva follows the lead of a group of crying fans, delaying development. She herself admitted that she doesn't like Stan.
I didn't get such a feeling from the post, for me it felt like Eva herself was unhappy with Stan and decided to change him, not bacause some fans wanted him changed. I think most were fine with the way Stan was portrayed.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Ok, it is different. But where exactly is the line? Knowing someone? If so how close do you have to know someone before you can't masturbate to them?
I like to get to know them as a person first. Give them a good handshake and check their background. If they give a bad handshake or don't look you in the eye, I just don't do it. Red flags for me.

Edit: Just noticed you said "can't". Nicknames. If they add a "ster" or an "arino" to the end of your name, it's a line too far. Don't cross it.
 

BloodyMares

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I didn't get such a feeling from the post, for me it felt like Eva herself was unhappy with Stan and decided to change him, not bacause some fans wanted him changed. I think most were fine with the way Stan was portrayed.
Yeah, I think some people forget that Eva Kiss isn't as gullible as they think she is. If she's certain about doing a particular thing, she will, regardless if it causes an outrage. People following this thread long enough remember at least a couple of such instances. Yes, sometimes, she can see the critique when it really has merit and then she might adjust some things so the narrative and characters feel more consistent. But if the complaints are purely taste-based, then she would always choose to do the thing SHE likes instead, even if it means losing some fans. Considering Robert still has a fully-fledged route and consistently gets new scenes, some with exciting premise, means that Eva still enjoys writing for him, even if he only has 1.5 fans. If she adjusted her game every time to please all of her fans, Robert's route would just get scrapped and be ended prematurely because objectively it's the waste of time and resources. But it's Eva's game, and she will do anything to improve it for herself first and foremost. No other person can influence her development process, at least not enough to make her revisit all 9 chapters.
 

xgrotesc

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Considering Robert still has a fully-fledged route and consistently gets new scenes, some with exciting premise, means that Eva still enjoys writing for him, even if he only has 1.5 fans. If she adjusted her game every time to please all of her fans, Robert's route would just get scrapped and be ended prematurely because objectively it's the waste of time and resources.
I got say, that from a writer's view point Robert is a brilliant character and I totally understand why Eva not only enjoy's writing him, but how it would be a complete waste to quickly toss him aside. He's not a character that's meant to be liked, but the amount of nuances needed to get him to be unlikeble, but at the same time show that all of that is rooted in his own insecurities, making not exactly a villain but just some douche that actually feels real... That's not easy, not easy at all. My hat's off to her!
 
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