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jaylop09

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Lena's situation is pretty sad when you think about it. She's alone, just released from a toxic relationship and with only 1 friend, who btw is trying to make her even sluttier. I would feel very bad for a person in a similar situation than her.

Yet I'm going to make her a dumb cum dumpster slut
A meme came through my mind. This is me making Lena suck even Perry's cock after reading about her tragic story
 
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Overfoxed

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I just started playing the current version, and I noticed my stats (wits,charisma etc) are not adding up when I got them, and they're definitely not at max lv (I'm using Walkthrough). Anyone has the same problem?
Do you have a specific example someone could check? i.e. a point in the game where it doesn't add up based on the choices you made (preferably earlier game so it's easier to double check).
 

Srg3369

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I just started playing the current version, and I noticed my stats (wits,charisma etc) are not adding up when I got them, and they're definitely not at max lv (I'm using Walkthrough). Anyone has the same problem?
Download the moded version it give you max stats
 

_Zebra_

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I start playing again at the beginning of chapter 8, and when I reached Lena side where she is having a conversation with Emma at the Record Store. Choosing the choice that boost stats doesn't adds up.
There are 2 variables that are used to tack your stats two for each (wits, charisma, etc.) For example: lena_wits and lena_wits_xp.

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The number represents the value of lena_wits and the golden bar situated right beneath it, tracks the value of lena_wits_xp. When the games tells you, +1 wits, you actually receive +1 lena_wits_xp (3 xp points = 1 major stat point).
 

gojira667

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I start playing again at the beginning of chapter 8, and when I reached Lena side where she is having a conversation with Emma at the Record Store. Choosing the choice that boost stats doesn't adds up.
It's a known bug. The stat XP bars only use Ian's variables even under Lena, i.e. it's a display bug. The v0.9 revised edition will have it fixed. See my earlier post if you don't want to wait until then.
 
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RC-1138 Boss

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Whether Ian's or Lena's limitations are the most frustrating is down to how each player wants to play the game and shape the characters, I guess. But personally I'm more bothered about Lena's struggles with her working life and social life than the fact that Ian can't sleep with everyone in the same playthrough. And while it's also true that Lena doesn't experience the kind of slut shaming women often get if they have many sexual partners, she's the victim of another realistic gender related consequence of the situation she's in: the many dudes (Seymour, Axel, Billy, guys on Stalkfap) trying to take advantage of her in the vulnerable situation she's in.
Now that is pretty much true. If we exclude Ian all her possible, so far and not counting the ones without routes yet, male sexual partners are scumbags.
Since my Ian is hooking up with Alison and Minerva my Lena's only option is focusing on her lesbian side with Holly and maybe Emma. :LOL: :love:
 

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"On another note, isn't that true to real life, dude's doing skummy shit and it's "Boys will be boys", woman does same thing and she a "slut" or a "bitch", maybe Eva's channeling her own "life experiences"."

Yeah, this is what I feel. About the acceptance for men and discrimination for women. I mean, it is seen as corruption as you said, but it is just Lena working as model, the way she wanna do it, and having sex with a lot of men. I wouldn't judge her for that (like Ian doesn't). But I understand, in this world, people would see it the way you described.
i didn't mean it in the sense of judgement, but rather that the formula/structure of Lena's path is literally the structure used for the "corruption" genre in porn games, where the female MC is put into a tight situation and must sleep with sleazy dudes to survive. Eva puts a better spin on it by having Lena discover different aspects of her sexual identity, but she is largely doing what she has to in order to keep her head above water(she isn't like Ivy who's very sexually open but very much feels like she still has massive control over her life).

Don't be so dramatic. Lena hasn't reached bad girl Jessica levels yet. Only radfems think that "boys will be boys" means "being a borderline rapist". Besides, being a horndog Ian ruins his chances with more than a few of the ladies, especially Lena and Holly.
radfems? really?
don't know why you got so offended but i was obviously refering to "boys will be boys" as a concept(why would i use saying oftem reserved for children to describe ppl like Axel or Jeremy?), that dudes are able to get away with scummy shit simply because said dudes are surrounded by a society that finds it acceptable, there's a reason that the #metoo movement happened within the last decade, because numerous workplaces pretty much let shit like this go on, ppl like Axel and Seymour merely exploit that.

Ian ruining his chances aren't the consequences i'm talking about, Lena by sleeping with many of her male LIs(an i mean this in the sense of specific individuals, not the more she sleeps with the worse things get) digs herself deeper in shit. it's suppose to be like a corruption game.

>Boys will be boys
>Ignoring that Ian gets fucked if he tries to pursue more than 1 girl at a time, fucking around always bites him in the ass
>Ignoring that Lena can fuck every character in the game with no consequences whatsoever.
>Ignoring that most of the other 'boys', i.e Lena's LIs are literally sociopaths on a power trip.
Nice analogy bud.
i find it funny so many ppl are getting offended by one simple saying. as i pointed out above i'm talking about the concept of the saying not the literal saying itself. I wasn't ignoring those things at all, in fact if you actually read the first part of my comment you would see that I aknowledge Lena's LIs being literal scum. Lena's path is designed like a corruption game so obviously her LIs are creepy ass dudes. The consequences i'm talking about aren't her "losing" a LI like Ian, but actively making her life worse, if she sleeps with Axel she slowly goes back into his thrall, if she gives in to Seymour she becomes his plaything, etc. Ppl really need to read the context of the comments before replying, all of this is laid out in the discusiion i was having with "MarkOlsen".
 

JohnnySolo

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i didn't mean it in the sense of judgement, but rather that the formula/structure of Lena's path is literally the structure used for the "corruption" genre in porn games, where the female MC is put into a tight situation and must sleep with sleazy dudes to survive. Eva puts a better spin on it by having Lena discover different aspects of her sexual identity, but she is largely doing what she has to in order to keep her head above water(she isn't like Ivy who's very sexually open but very much feels like she still has massive control over her life).
I completely agree with you that Lena’s path is set up as the “corruption” part of the game. But I disagree with you, that she must to do these things to survive. There is always another possibly and of course there are consequences, manly less money and gaining a powerful enemy, but it also opens to new possibilities. Lena can (re-)discover new/old talents (music) and can gain friends how (could) support her (Emma for example, how for sure will support her against Seymour).

As I wrot earlier, in my opinion, Lena’s path is question of beliefs / moral and if you want to stay to them or not. Maybe I wrong, I don’t know. We are still some were in the middle of game and I don’t know what Eva Kiss is planning for the future. But until know you can keep Lena “clean” (sorry, stupid description, hope you understand what I mean) and she is not broken, she may face some challenges, but every challenge that you overcome makes you stronger.
 
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Tbh I hope Eva makes a distinction between the level of "corruption" needed for something easy like an onlyfans account or artsy modeling and straight up whoring yourself out to some rich dude.

I don't think being a model or an onlyfans girl should make a girl "broken" in general, it's a pretty normal thing. Getting fucked by your ex or getting manipulated by a rich pretentious asshole for money on the other hand... yeah that's a different story
 
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There is nothing wrong with Lena having sex for money. It's hardly a "corrupt" thing. Seymour is a piece of shit for trying to remove all the options in her life. Just wish it was her choice instead of a path she was forced down.
 
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There is nothing wrong with Lena having sex for money. It's hardly a "corrupt" thing.
Oh sure, there's nothing morally wrong with it, but I just wanted to note there's a pretty big difference between doing onlyfans and actually having sex for money, at least in terms of mental strength and type of person one should be to not get their soul crushed by that.

Ofc this is just speaking about the people I know, but some of them I know really well. Online sex work like onlyfans or camming is much more easily kept as a side gig or stopped when the enthusiasm is lost, but prostitution is usually something that defines your life, and it's much harder to walk back from that if it starts getting to you.

In general if a friend started an onlyfans I'd be like "oh cool, good luck", but if they started picking up guys for cash, I'd be more like "hey... is there something going on, you okay?". Just my $0.02.
 
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Oh sure, there's nothing morally wrong with it, but I just wanted to note there's a pretty big difference between doing onlyfans and actually having sex for money, at least in terms of mental strength and type of person one should be to not get their soul crushed by that.

Ofc this is just speaking about the people I know, but some of them I know really well. Online sex work like onlyfans or camming is much more easily kept as a side gig or stopped when the enthusiasm is lost, but prostitution is usually something that defines your life, and it's much harder to walk back from that if it starts getting to you.

In general if a friend started an onlyfans I'd be like "oh cool, good luck", but if they started picking up guys for cash, I'd be more like "hey... is there something going on, you okay?". Just my $0.02.
The ties a lot into society and how human civilization has evolved over the past 10,000 years but that is pretty far afield of the game.

Anyway I hope Lena does not have everything fall apart.
 
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Yeah I got a bit carried away hahaha

But yeah, I'd just like to see a path where stuff like that is kept as a side gig. I play this with my gf who is a camgirl and she gets extra annoyed at bad sex worker stories lmao
 

Dortan

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Its true about Lena's scenes with Ian. It makes me so sad that Ian is small and pathetic. The romance vibes in his route with Lena are second best (losing only to Holly x Ian)- but the guy is not hot.

Also, agree that Lena doesn't currently seem to have any viable route to success but to mega-slut. Almost all her stat points, narrative, and monetary growth is on those routes. Maybe it is a long term plan to give her alternatives? Playing her route as someone who dislikes corruption narratives feels like "avoidance simulator" the game.
Ian? Small and pathetic? He looks the same as any other guy in the game, dick size and all , he's just not as muscular as some and his face is a bit plain, that's it lol.
 

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Tbh I hope Eva makes a distinction between the level of "corruption" needed for something easy like an onlyfans account or artsy modeling and straight up whoring yourself out to some rich dude.

I don't think being a model or an onlyfans girl should make a girl "broken" in general, it's a pretty normal thing. Getting fucked by your ex or getting manipulated by a rich pretentious asshole for money on the other hand... yeah that's a different story
Agree. Making money from sex on a onlyfans account is at the end of the day her own choice. Being manipulated/blackmailed by scumbags like Axel or Seymour is something completely different.

That being said, so far as i remember, i do think Lena can have the onlyfans account without without falling for Axel manipulative bs or Seymour obssession.
 
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Ian? Small and pathetic? He looks the same as any other guy in the game, dick size and all , he's just not as muscular as some and his face is a bit plain, that's it lol.
Also with high enough lust and fitness dude pretty much got that good dick according to most of the women he fucks.
The only thing he doesn't have is Big Dick like Axel and Jermey and it seems like even with his big dick Jemery is kinda trash with sex especially in that scene with Lena.
 

Baka!

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I haven't played this game for a long time but I think it's on its way to make some mistakes that GGGB already made, for example the fact that if you follow all possible sexual routes you can end up stuck on a specific route without being able to get the end of another route, in this game it gives the impression that if Lena gets too deep in the route of Seymour or Axel she will no longer be able to have another ending, it sounds sad to say but right now I have lost interest in this game, another aspect that In my opinion is unnecessary are the stats, it is a mechanic that in my opinion limits the game more than it helps it, I do not know if I am the only one who thinks about it but after this game is finished Eva should make a fantasy game, I think she could create cool things if she's really inspired
 
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