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Kalenz123

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I wonder why this game doesn't have an NTR tag yet. Even the author acknowledges the NTR in this game. I guess it keeps the ntr crybabies away.
I don't think there is NTR in the game yet. NTR is stealing the protaq's love interest. Currently the two main chars can steal npc's love interests and cheat but that doesn't count ;)
Now if Lena and Ian could compete over Holly that would be interesting..
 

Overfoxed

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I wonder why this game doesn't have an NTR tag yet. Even the author acknowledges the NTR in this game. I guess it keeps the ntr crybabies away.
A big part of what makes NTR "controversial" is the idea that it is taking something away from the MC/player against their will - whereas here the cheating/cuckolding of the MC only happens if the player chooses to do so (by making certain choices on behalf of the *other* MC).
 

WatsonJohn

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Technically there is no NTR/cuckolding. If Lena sleeps with others there is no option to have a romantic relationship with Ian, meaning they can only be friends with benefits.
Pretty sure Lena can cheat on Ian after committing in a relationship.
I don't think there is NTR in the game yet. NTR is stealing the protaq's love interest. Currently the two main chars can steal npc's love interests and cheat but that doesn't count ;)
Now if Lena and Ian could compete over Holly that would be interesting..
I don't think so. The games that have NTR display other people having sex with the protagonist's love interest. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are "stolen away" but if the LI fucks people other than the MC without their consent (if it is with consent then it's just swinging) then that's NTR.
A big part of what makes NTR "controversial" is the idea that it is taking something away from the MC/player against their will - whereas here the cheating/cuckolding of the MC only happens if the player chooses to do so (by making certain choices on behalf of the *other* MC).
A lot of games with NTR have the NTR aspect as optional. That's why it has become a meme at this point to ask "is ntr optional?" That is, you the player, can choose if the LI cucks the MC or not.
 

Skylark21

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Technically there is no NTR/cuckolding. If Lena sleeps with others there is no option to have a romantic relationship with Ian, meaning they can only be friends with benefits.
No, Lena can sleep with everyone and still be in proper relationship with Ian. Lena only rejects Ian if she 'wake up Jeremy' in chapter 8, she can still flirt or do other things with him though.
 

dundun

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Not anymore, Lena was fired from the restaurant so she's free all evenings. She has no excuse to ignore Louise whatsoever.
You are talking about the future then. Well, the thing is I don't get the feeling they are that good friends any more. They were friends when they were studying together but then Lena dropped out of college 2 years ago so they likely didn't meet that often. Especially as Lena was involved with Axel and probably hanging out with Ivy a lot more. Then she and Axel broke up and Louise conveniantely had an empty room. Since then Louise was working on her thesis and Lena was working 2 jobs.
Lena also shows no feelings for Louise. The sex is purely physical like with Robert, not like with Ian, Holly or even Mike.
But I am happy for your show of compassion :). It is a rare flower in this forum. One more reason for me to watch Arcade.
Now if only there was a show that could make you feel some compassion for Robert.... :D
 

CoalPhelps

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You are talking about the future then. Well, the thing is I don't get the feeling they are that good friends any more. They were friends when they were studying together but then Lena dropped out of college 2 years ago so they likely didn't meet that often. Especially as Lena was involved with Axel and probably hanging out with Ivy a lot more. Then she and Axel broke up and Louise conveniantely had an empty room. Since then Louise was working on her thesis and Lena was working 2 jobs.
Lena also shows no feelings for Louise. The sex is purely physical like with Robert, not like with Ian, Holly or even Mike.
But I am happy for your show of compassion :). It is a rare flower in this forum. One more reason for me to watch Arcade.
Now if only there was a show that could make you feel some compassion for Robert.... :D
In the case of him, you can't do without a good dose of magic.
 

Tallyhoe

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There is NTR in this game but technically it's not because it doesn't see through Ian's perspective. It's through our perspective that it feels like NTR, because WE see Lena fucks around without Ian's knowing. So in-game, it's more like cheating. But as I said before, this 2 MCs is the best game since you can NTR yourself.

Too bad Eva killed it by make Lena saying no to committed relationship with Ian while having Jeremy on the side. Now it can't be full NTR, only open relationship.
 
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DavDR

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Don't worry guys, I found evidence of Robert's redeeming qualities:

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I don't like Robert at all, but to be honest he's no worse than any of the other men in the game. I mean at least he has a job and doesn't have to leech off his parents.

But it's OK because Eva is going to turn Stan into a model of modern masculinity! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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I don't like Robert at all, but to be honest he's no worse than any of the other men in the game. I mean at least he has a job and doesn't have to leech off his parents.

But it's OK because Eva is going to turn Stan into a model of modern masculinity! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
To give Robert his fair due, he's certainly one of the more realistic characters - most people I meet are selfish bastards too. :p
 

Skylark21

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Too bad Eva killed it by make Lena saying no to committed relationship with Ian while having Jeremy on the side. Now it can't be full NTR, only open relationship.
I bet there'll another opportunity for Lena to get it on with Jeremy down the line even if she's in relationship with Ian. I mean it's not like all that flirtation, sext and bj at party, plus her addiction for it will simply vanish just because she's in relationship.
 
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DavDR

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To give Robert his fair due, he's certainly one of the more realistic characters - most people I meet are selfish bastards too. :p
There's an element of conceit with him as well that I dislike, but the same could be said of Jeremy. In fact, you can find all of Robert's unlikable traits in the other men.
 

CoalPhelps

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There's an element of conceit with him as well that I dislike, but the same could be said of Jeremy. In fact, you can find all of Robert's unlikable traits in the other men.
In fact, I would say that they are practically the same, only Jeremy is lucky with his height and a huge dick. At times Robert is even nicer: he doesn't have that "me Casanova fucking everything that moves" attitude.
 

CoalPhelps

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I don't like Robert at all, but to be honest he's no worse than any of the other men in the game. I mean at least he has a job and doesn't have to leech off his parents.

But it's OK because Eva is going to turn Stan into a model of modern masculinity! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Absolutely true, but blackmail, attempts to impose oneself and use the girl's vulnerable position are too much.
 

CoalPhelps

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To give Robert his fair due, he's certainly one of the more realistic characters - most people I meet are selfish bastards too. :p
And, perhaps, this is his main drawback within the framework of the game — when all the characters are hypertrophied in a good sense and represent certain archetypes and their stereotypical features, become apologists for certain advantages and disadvantages and avatars of fetishes — he is an ordinary person. And it makes him fade from the rest.
 

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I don't like Robert at all, but to be honest he's no worse than any of the other men in the game. I mean at least he has a job and doesn't have to leech off his parents.
Robert is clearly set-up as a bad-version of Ian. Is he worse than Axel or Jeremy? No, but he is also not better than them. The difference is that Axel and Jeremy have somehow charisma Robert not. I don’t like the person Robert, but I think the type of person he represents has been implemented pretty good by Eva Kiss.

And just having a job, doesn’t make somebody a better person. Perry is lazy and a porn addict, but at least he has some moral standards. ;)
 

CoalPhelps

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Robert is clearly set-up as a bad-version of Ian. Is he worse than Axel or Jeremy? No, but he is also not better than them. The difference is that Axel and Jeremy have somehow charisma Robert not. I don’t like the person Robert, but I think the type of person he represents has been implemented pretty good by Eva Kiss.

And just having a job, doesn’t make somebody a better person. Perry is lazy and a porn addict, but at least he has some moral standards. ;)
Perry is cool and funny enough when he doesn't whine and has potential overall. At least he's creative and has a passion.
 

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Robert is clearly set-up as a bad-version of Ian. Is he worse than Axel or Jeremy? No, but he is also not better than them. The difference is that Axel and Jeremy have somehow charisma Robert not. I don’t like the person Robert, but I think the type of person he represents has been implemented pretty good by Eva Kiss.

And just having a job, doesn’t make somebody a better person. Perry is lazy and a porn addict, but at least he has some moral standards. ;)
Instead of Ian i would say he is the "amateur version" of Axel considering how his attempts at manipulation are so crude when compared to Lena's ex.
 
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