patreons, this means paying people.
You're right, they won't.
Well, just my opinion, but for me the last thing this game needs is more new characters that will result in more variables, branching and so on. Especially charactes from another games that already were worked while there is a lot of ORS's characters that need be more flesh out.
Im a bit sceptical about the new character but I believe Eva has a special reason to bring a character from gggb to ors. Lets not judge before we see.
Who is this new girl?
EvaKiss wrote very early on that there wouldn't be certain things in her game, like forced sex.Seeing the discussions about probable censorship and taming the content to adapt to Steam's rules reminds me of when I saw some people asking for rape in the early days after the game's first release
I think the reason GGGB didn't have any rape (and ORS likely won't have any either) is because Eva's games are somewhat realistic (as realistic as a sex VN can get without being boring), and realistically, rape isn't sexy
inb4: "real apha sigma chads rape women"
But it doesn't have to, also there is no need to limit his interactions at all.But what about Seymour? Eva can limit his interaction with Lena to a phone call and some interior monologue on her part afterwards. I don't think anyone is arguing that every character needs a scene in each chapter, but still it would just delay things until chapter 11. And in that case Eva will probably also have to tip-toe her way around the issue when writing chapter 10, because of how important it is to the story—which could eventually lead to more work than if she just starts dealing with it now.
The thing is that Lena's deal with Seymour doesn't just affect the relationship between the two of them. It also affects Lena's relationship to all the other photographers, and her job at the café, the restaurant and on Stalkfap. And Seymour's threaths also involve Ian and his career at the magazine and the writing contest. And if Lena rejects the deal, it will probably open up some other work related options that won't otherwise be available. (How could she otherwise afford a tramp stamp, nipple piercings and more horse sized dildos?
Also it will probably affect the relationship between Lena and Ian. Does she tell him about the deal with Seymour? And if so, how does Ian react? Will it differ depending on whether the relationship is open or exclusive? And if Lena doesn't tell him about it, will he eventually find out? Or will Seymour even tell him about it, to show his dominance and clear away one of the obstacles that stands between him and Lena?
It's not like all of these issues have to be handled in chapter 10, but eventually I think they will, and to me that sounds extremely complex, and something that demands some serious planning on how it will all play out, in which order, and how one thing affects the other. Looking at the variations of a particular scene is useful, but it's not even close to illustrating the overall complexity of putting everything together.
And strictly speaking she isn't cheating on him as she isn't having sex with Seymour (at least for now).Well, we don't know. I agree the complexity doesn't explain it. While it does make it harder, it nowhere should double development time. Maybe the 'rework' is a hint. She was unhappy with the quality of the writing. EvaKiss wrote in a Q&A that she doesn't go over her writing at all, that what we get is the first draft. So maybe that changed, maybe she now is redoing her writing. That could explain the more than doubled development time we see now.
EvaKiss wrote there will be "some" new characters, "some of which" we might know. So it could be a completely new character. As for GGGB there is a limited amount of women, Eva, Iris, Natasha maybe Jolene? Eva can be very different (like dead!) so she is unlikely, Iris can be in the throws of Arthur, but maybe she got over her daddy complex? Natasha is always on option. The image is called pnj.webp, can't get a hint from that.
Natashas book store fits the ORS plot the best i think if it is a gggb cameo
It will be very cool if it's Natasha. She was my favorite character in GGGB, I loved her free spirit.
Probably Nat. It makes the most sense that she makes an appearance. Her character fits the spoiler outline the most, assuming the dev doesn't introduce substantial changes in the character's appearance.
I’m not denying that the development of chapter 9 was significantly slower than the previous ones, even if we factor in any increased complexity. Eva was also open about being burnt out through parts of the work with that chapter and the rework. Though I also seem to remember BloodyMares talking about the code and the variables just for the trip with Alison as far more complex than anything in the game up until then. Chapter 10 is also taking more time than the earlier chapters, but I'm waiting until it's released to draw final conclusions on the reasons for that.
Yes, you're right about all of this. I wasn't trying to ignore it, I was just trying to prevent my post from becoming longer than ORS' scripts. Also the non-disclosure agreement might be a tool for Eva to keep the path from getting too tangled in with all the others, at least in the short run. Still I think it's obvious the deal with Seymour and the relationship between Ian and Lena will add another level to the complexity to the story. And considering how the relationship was set up, with the different relationships options (just friends, friends with benefits, open relationship, commited relationship) together with how both protagonists had the chance to cheat immediately afterwards, I get the impression that this isn't where Eva will hold back to keep things as simple as possible.
My guess is that the silhouette isn't from one of the GGGB cameos, but either way Nat could make sense. And it would be a pretty interesting cameo at this moment considering Ian and Lena just had their relationship talk, and could be in an open relationship. What better way to kickstart that relationship than by meeting Nat on a night out, and the three of them ending the night together? I remember her from GGGB as pretty direct and open-minded, so—if the open relationship will include threesomes—it would be a smart way to make it easy to cross the line between just talking about experimenting together to actually doing it.
Yea, I guess it's Natasha. Wished it's Iris to recount her bbc or daddy issues but she already have a cameo so its very unlikely. I wonder what's her role here in ORS though?...Heres some ideas I want to jizz over in my mind while I wait for update.
Handing Nat over to Arthur was (for me) the hottest thing of GGGB. Sometimes I play again only to re experience those scenes.
not my ians proudest moment but my ian will beg her to take him back
or is this not ians ex?
