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i forgot about the remastered version, I apologizeDepends on your definition of abuse. He certainly made her cry multiple times during their relationship with his controlling attitude and jealous fits of rage. She explains it to Ian that it wasn't just a single moment of cheating that made her break up with him. Cheating was just a final nail in the toxic relationship.
Not canon post-Remastered version. He doesn't jerk off, he watches for a bit, then leaves. Just like Lena does with Louise and Jeremy.
it would but there are ''almost'' none in this game in my opinion kek.There is Ian... depending on how you play him
It would be boring if every guy was decent
It's a temporary deal-breaker. As long as you don't start dating Holly, Lena can forgive Ian in Chapter 9 if you don't make it worse by arguing and they can start dating again, but there won't be a relationship-defining talk.Is it a dealbreaker with Lena if Ian gets anything spicier from Holly on their book trip? I mean, they are not in a relationship yet, but who knows. I haven't gotten that far. Struggling between the Holly or Cindy choice atm.
Thanks for the answer, I guess I'll just have him not do anything with Holly then.It's a temporary deal-breaker. As long as you don't start dating Holly, Lena can forgive Ian in Chapter 9 if you don't make it worse by arguing and they can start dating again, but there won't be a relationship-defining talk.
You get railroaded into problems with Seymour no matter what choices you make. Along with some Ian/Lena/Holly trifecta weirdness on the book-fair route, it's one of a very few plot-points in the game where Eva forces the player's hand to a greater extent than usual. I assume these are several plot-points she planned as pivotal regardless of what route you're on.Thanks for the answer, I guess I'll just have him not do anything with Holly then.
Also, are there "bad" consequences later on if Lena went ahead with Stalkfap and Seymour's photoshoot? At the start, it made sense to try those in order to get more cash (roleplay-wise), but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff and the same happened/is happening Seymour. If it's possible to ignore both things and not have a homeless Lena later on, I might ignore them on my next playthrough if a "positive" scenario eventually arrives for Lena instead, for example, her musical/model career takes off. I don't mind spoilers. Thanks again.
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Replay Lena's dates with Ian where she tells him about their relationship, as well as the very prologue where she's crying in the alley. That scene takes place chronologically before Axel's shenanigans with Cherry. Relationships are built on more than sex.
I just replayed it... she didn't break up with him at that point, they just had a minor argument. According to Lena in this sequence she says "But it's nothing really serious", and then she leaves Ian and goes back to Axel who is waiting for her in a car. She broke up with Axel because of Cherry. Period. She says that she liked it rough with Axel. Period.
The point is, someone claimed that Axel was abusive to her, and that is quit simply not true. Yeah, they had minor relationship problems, who doesn't. but it wasn't enough for her to leave him and the rough sex was not a problem for her, SHE SAID SO!!! SHE SAID SHE LIKED THAT ABOUT HIM! What she didn't like was him FUCKING ANOTHER WOMAN, which makes sense, and that is why she left him. Period. She says so. I don't get how you totally ignore what the game actually says and insert your own ideas?!
She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false. Maybe they had other normal, minor (according to Lena) problems as most relationships do, but she liked the rough sex, so it wasn't abuse and she left him because he cheated... that's what the game clearly states.
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Lena has no problems, just stuff in her head about how to give into assholes left and right.no,jill is not a slut, but a rich spoiled virgin who has never worked a day in her life while lena has 2 jobs to make ends and then again gives money to her parents for her father s cancer,and in connection with ian,he just can't get his ex girlfriend out his mind, what problems does DIK mc struggle with??
no one says that jill has to live there with tybalt,that she is going to work or at least has the character to stand up for her own,look at josy!!and marriage potential??do you really think mc DIK thinks about that?Lena is a girl getting hit on everywhere she goes.
She does not need Axel, who is violent with her on a day by day basis
and the asshole, just like Jeremy is a whoremonger,
they work their assets right, the money or the natural trope of their complexion.
They are manipulative and gropey and molesting girls,
also the fact that players get to push Lena into the assholes and this game
makes her forget what they are because of their sex is a trope in itself.
Lena has no problems, just stuff in her head about how to give into assholes left and right.
Just like Lena only meets Ian half way through and she would have to actively reject
a number of assholes up until then, Jill has not found anyone to bring to her friends with
marriage potential until the before last update where MC is introduced and they go bang.
Good things are worth the wait and pretty much like Lena is getting hit on hard everywhere,
by assholes no less, Jill has been living with the hitting asshole most of her life,
the water mellon guy.
Nobody is making Lena sleep where she does,DIK thinks about that
that lena does it with jeremy,louisse,or whoever she chooses,what real decisions did jill ever have to make in her life?and what kind of REAL friends does lena have??IF you are a DIK you do not get any of that ... Jill shuts you down early.
Nobody is making Lena sleep where she does,
with the girl Remy cheats on and the perv,
either. She got friends and her not moving in with any of the assholes
gamers can push her into is just bad form and another game trope.
Jill could have married the water mellon guy ages ago for one,REAL friends
ok,that she stay true to the music and songs,instead of casual sex ,i agree with you!!but axell,the most social one and connected?that is also an example of being played by seymour,someone who thinks he can get away with anything!!You can play Ian into one for starters,
Keep it chill and not engage with Ivy, so she stays loyal but does not walk away,
Lena could be Hols friend if you play Ian loyal,
making this wholesome: Lena is happy with Ian exclusive, banging her guitar,
writing her poems and songs, Ian writing his novel,
while Eva kan keep piling on the hurt all she wants on top of them for drama and such.
Jill could have married the water mellon guy ages ago for one,
like Lena could go back to Axel, as he be the more socialite of the assholes,
is well connected and could slap seymour around or keep him at bay for least.
Lena is pushed into small sex return from her asshole connections,
but all she needs is to stay true to her wild immagination
and sticking to her songs and poems rather than the bangs.
The girls could have a good life, Jill keeping her status quo, her water mellon guyaxell,the most social one and connected
Gaming for the dual MC thrill? Wishing for more Lena good girl or bad girl paths?one of the best vn I've ever played. Looking forward to the new chapter
That's why I said "depending on your definition of abuse". Who ever said he was physically abusing her? He was abusing her mentally with his dickish attitude caused by jealousy and the need to be in control of everything. Just because Lena says "It's not a big deal" doesn't mean it's the truth if she's actually crying alone in some dark corner and vents about it to a complete stranger. When Cindy goes to cry due to her argument with Wade, then he's a terrible boyfriend, but it's okay that Axel did the same thing to Lena, more than once, making her feel miserable? Axel is a controlling, manipulative asshole, and Lena was facing that side of him constantly, only temporarily ignoring it when he was fucking her good, sending her in a better mood. Cheating is bad, but that alone is not enough to cut all ties to the point of closing all communication and moving away. Cheating was the final nail ON TOP of his controlling, manipulative, asshole, and sometimes even scary behavior in front of other people. The way he attacked Robert and almost attacked Ian, the way he tried to learn Lena's location from her parents, it's not something new to him that Lena's breakup did to him. That's simply who he is, who he was even while being together with Lena. And she was not blind to this, she just thought that positives could outweigh the negatives, that she could make it work. Same way Cindy is always trying to think that her relationship with Wade is not doomed, that she can do something to reignite the spark.She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false.
With all due respect, this is complete bullshit. At the end of Chapter 5, if Lena confides in Ian, she talks about her relationship with Axel: "Jealousy, insecurities, unfair demands and expectations... At the beginning things were great, but as our relationship progressed they get more turbulent and, well... Toxic. And then I learned he had been cheating on me... That was the final nail in the coffin. It was horrible. Especially considering all he was demanding from me. All his trust issues... And it turned out he was the one not to be trusted."I just replayed it... she didn't break up with him at that point, they just had a minor argument. According to Lena in this sequence she says "But it's nothing really serious", and then she leaves Ian and goes back to Axel who is waiting for her in a car. She broke up with Axel because of Cherry. Period. She says that she liked it rough with Axel. Period.
The point is, someone claimed that Axel was abusive to her, and that is quit simply not true. Yeah, they had minor relationship problems, who doesn't. but it wasn't enough for her to leave him and the rough sex was not a problem for her, SHE SAID SO!!! SHE SAID SHE LIKED THAT ABOUT HIM! What she didn't like was him FUCKING ANOTHER WOMAN, which makes sense, and that is why she left him. Period. She says so. I don't get how you totally ignore what the game actually says and insert your own ideas?!
She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false. Maybe they had other normal, minor (according to Lena) problems as most relationships do, but she liked the rough sex, so it wasn't abuse and she left him because he cheated... that's what the game clearly states.
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What do you mean by "automatically?" You can choose the degree of Lena's devotion to Stalkfap. You can take Ivy's advice and post more and more lewd content, or you can keep posting tasteful nudes. Same with Seymour, by the way, the degree to which Lena is "devoted" to him and how she behaves on his shoots depends on the choises....but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff...