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Okay man. It seems that you and I were talking about slightly different concepts and ideas.
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I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, you were talking about character being "blank slates" as in they didn't have any previous experiences from their previous relationships or whatnot, while I'm talking about them being "blank slates" as in their personalities.
To me it seems you think Ian and Lena's histories of previous relationship is what bars them from being "blank slates" while the same not being the case for Ashley because she didn't have any previous relationships, correct?
i'm surprised to read some debate about the story in this game : as an adult game, it's turning into something too serious... GGGB was not a serious game : it was about sex only, and that was great, because you can let your own fantasies interact... with this "serious" game, the player is less concerned. i check this topic only to see if a new upgrade is published, but i've stopped playing a long time ago. i think EK has lost the goal of this kind of entertainment for the majority of its players.
Actually you are wrong Alex was Lena first and only before the game they started dating when she was 8teen
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Does anyone know if the title is a reference to the myth of red strings or is it referring to something else. Really curious as to the name as the myth is about how red string tie together two people destined to be together and we kind of have that going on with our two MCs here. I know its not exact as we could avoid a relationship but it is really pushed.
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The red string is a reference of Japanese folklore/mythology. Meaning that two people love each other are destined to meet each other don't matter what the situation and the consequences. It's the destiny.
You see this in many animes
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According to EvaKiss:
ORS is about how people relate to one another and how they build, navigate and mess up those relationships. It's not so much about fate or destiny, but about what those relationships mean to us, or something like that. To be honest I didn't think too thoroughly about the themes, and I'm discovering new meaning in my own work as I keep progressing the story. I think having both male and female MCs has turned out to be more than a simple gimmick, but everyone is free to find their own meaning, that's the cool thing about art.
So, no, I guess. Sometimes Google is not your friend
In my understanding the red string of a story is something that connects its parts.Edit: although that should be called a red tread.
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Thanks for info, this is exactly what sepperates Eva Kiss from so many other developers, route branching and scene variations. Which, when you think about it, is a lot more work than to copy/paste lines and alter some text flavor or change a character in a scene. At the end of the day it all has to make sense and weave into the game seemlessly no matter what previous choices you made and what choices you plan to make in the future. I still remember being mind blown how in GGGB it seemed like you can discover a new scene/outcome many months past final release. I rarely play a game multiple times, but Eva Kiss games definitely feel fresh every playthrough and that is incredible talent to make such a game without a large studio behind you.
One thing is certain, I will make it my mission to play all Eva Kiss games to their full potential years down the line.
If the new chapter releases in November, I will immediately nut.
I heard it as a Chinese concept all the way back in elementary school. It could have perhaps found its way into Japanese culture as Japan has a habit of borrowing from China culturally as its sort of the little brother in that sense. For example a kitsune is very similar to a hulijing.
oh that's cool was that from her patreon page or something? I'm subscribed and I don't think she allows PMs. I'm really curious about this whole name thing especially since I started digging into Chinese myths.According to EvaKiss:
ORS is about how people relate to one another and how they build, navigate and mess up those relationships. It's not so much about fate or destiny, but about what those relationships mean to us, or something like that. To be honest I didn't think too thoroughly about the themes, and I'm discovering new meaning in my own work as I keep progressing the story. I think having both male and female MCs has turned out to be more than a simple gimmick, but everyone is free to find their own meaning, that's the cool thing about art.
So, no, I guess. Sometimes Google is not your friend
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I think this is a general knowledge.
Ancient China was very influential in Asia, and many cultural traditions spread to Japan and South Korea.
Ancient China was very influential in Asia, and many cultural traditions spread to Japan and South Korea.
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I guess it depends on how you look at it. Lena is pretty and confident, sure, but she's also just a waitress / amateur model, somewhat aimlessly going with the flow. Ian on the other hand already strives for greatness with his book writing that he takes seriously while being crushed on both by Holly and Alison (and desired by Minerva) at the same time. If Lena is mostly guided by her Charisma and Lust (by default), Ian is proficient in Wits and Money (fewer expenses, support from family). So I'd say they're in the same league thanks to their different strengths that could compliment each other.
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I will add a little more, they have different problems and challenges. And, accordingly, a different reaction to them, maybe that's why they use different strengths.
Ian wants to be a good writer and his only problem is his bitch boss. Ian is not in a financial hole.
Lena has a much stronger lack of money. Her father has cancer, she has a crappy job, and Seymour is spinning his own web...and it's very tempting to go down the path of Lust to make a quick buck. So to speak, go to the Dark Side, and it is much easier, as Master Skywalker said. Especially for an attractive girl, this is a very easy way - Onlyfans, naked modeling, influencing...
Two people and such different paths.
Of course Ian can also give up his dream and use his body like a man - in kickboxing. The game seduces to easy paths..
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Lena is at least a league above Ian imo (unless he becomes rich with his book). Doesn't mean they can't end up together, there are many cases irl.
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I think the "depends on how you look at it" part is true also from the protagonists' point of view. A Lena who only wants to have fun, is at least close to being out of Ian's league in practice. Looks wise she's a level above him, and as a woman she can have anyone she wants to a degree Ian can't. In that scenario Ian seemingly also feels inferior to her, shown in the threat he sees from the übermensch posterboy ex-boyfriend, from Robert, and Jeremy's comments about her as a model and how she's not relationship material.
If Lena is interested in something more with Ian, the dynamics are different. Then Lena seemingly feels inferior—he's a lot closer to following his dreams than Lena, and both Alison, Holly and Cherry act as threats that make her feel more insecure.
In most playthroughs it's probably a mix of those ingredients, and all in all it probably adds up to them being more or less in the same league. But it's definitely more interesting that it varies so much depending on the situation.