I've been trying out a few variations and still can't seem to get the scene you mentioned. Did you get any closer to finding out the right variables?
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I've been trying out a few variations and still can't seem to get the scene you mentioned. Did you get any closer to finding out the right variables?
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Could someone tell me does this game have sex sound effects? because looking at this changelog it looks like it might.
v0.9 Remastered Alpha - 2022/04/08
v0.9 Remastered Alpha - 2022/04/08
- Remaster of CH1-9
SPOILER - New Tutorial
- New Difficulty Levels
- Complete stats revision and balancing
- 7 New music tracks
- Ambient music and sfx overhaul
- Fixed bugs, created new bugs
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I don't relate to the various complaints about the multiple protagonist setup, but I think I intellectually understand it.
It doesn't work as well if if the player is locked into a particular viewpoint, such as some male players finding it difficult to relate to female characters, leading them to not want to play a female protagonist. Vice versa for some players with a male protagonist, although the female protagonist issue is more common because erotic VNs are a male-dominated hobby.
It doesn't work as well if some players might relate to one of the protagonists but otherwise doesn't care for what that protagonist is going through or trying to do. This happens for me with a lot of male protag games where the game is focused on something like trying to make a harem out of his family. I relate to being a horny guy, but don't care for that particular type of story.
It also doesn't work as well if the players put themselves really strongly in the shoes of one of the protagonists, and then switching protagonists becomes jarring. Maybe this is related to the immersion idea that Joe Steel raised. I tend to adopt the character's perspectives lightly, so I don't experience that jarring feeling, and when the day changes and the name changes from Ian to Lena or from Lena to Ian, I can mentally prep and switch. But I could see it being a problem otherwise.
I think multiple protag works best if you're flexible, can relate to both protagonists, are somewhat invested or interested in what happens to both of them, while not being too immersed in one perspective. When that happens, you can make choices for one protagonist while you as the player are more aware of the day-to-day context in which the other protagonist lives and what choices they're facing. It starts to feel like a real world with everyone facing complex challenges and circumstances, not just one person. I'm thinking of the scene at the bar where Ian notes that he heard from Lena that Louise and Stan don't get along, which is a superficial observation from Ian's perspective, but you (as Lena) have had actual interaction with that dislike and know how tense it is and how Lena struggles with that situation.
It doesn't work as well if if the player is locked into a particular viewpoint, such as some male players finding it difficult to relate to female characters, leading them to not want to play a female protagonist. Vice versa for some players with a male protagonist, although the female protagonist issue is more common because erotic VNs are a male-dominated hobby.
It doesn't work as well if some players might relate to one of the protagonists but otherwise doesn't care for what that protagonist is going through or trying to do. This happens for me with a lot of male protag games where the game is focused on something like trying to make a harem out of his family. I relate to being a horny guy, but don't care for that particular type of story.
It also doesn't work as well if the players put themselves really strongly in the shoes of one of the protagonists, and then switching protagonists becomes jarring. Maybe this is related to the immersion idea that Joe Steel raised. I tend to adopt the character's perspectives lightly, so I don't experience that jarring feeling, and when the day changes and the name changes from Ian to Lena or from Lena to Ian, I can mentally prep and switch. But I could see it being a problem otherwise.
I think multiple protag works best if you're flexible, can relate to both protagonists, are somewhat invested or interested in what happens to both of them, while not being too immersed in one perspective. When that happens, you can make choices for one protagonist while you as the player are more aware of the day-to-day context in which the other protagonist lives and what choices they're facing. It starts to feel like a real world with everyone facing complex challenges and circumstances, not just one person. I'm thinking of the scene at the bar where Ian notes that he heard from Lena that Louise and Stan don't get along, which is a superficial observation from Ian's perspective, but you (as Lena) have had actual interaction with that dislike and know how tense it is and how Lena struggles with that situation.
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Nice, new update. Now I have time to play the Remastered version while I wait for BloodyMares to finish the WT for Chapter 10
I think this is exactly what she was trying to do. The original title (which afaik was Doors and Cages or something) gives a similar idea. You’ve made a bunch of decisions and that opens a bunch of opportunities for Ian and Lena’s relationships, but in other ways they’re starting to become caged into certain paths.
I don’t think we’ve really had a chapter where we’re mostly dealing with consequences of our decisions and how it effects other characters (Ivy commentating on Ian and Cindy, Lena’s stalkfap, consequences for Holly based on what you’ve done, Axels different responses if Ian’s revealed his relationship with Lena etc.) I thought it was really cool tbh.
Where do you find the points in the code? Are you opening a file via UnRen or just looking at the save file in notepad?
- Jun 1, 2020
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Even if i dont act like a cuck, whatever I do, I wont get the enjoyment like Axel or Jeremy is getting from girls by playing as Ian. The maledom, kinky, hardcore, netori content Jeremy is getting will never be able to match what Ian is getting. Sure, If you are a lover of romance, Ian is the best of all Male characters. But, if you take hardcore sexual kinks, I think cuck comes first for Ian.
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fuck me perry is such a sad sack
- Jun 1, 2020
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What u have said is absolutely right. And to those, who are countering that Ian out perform jeremy in MMF in Allison is a "choice". Not the default scene. Jeremy can outperform also. So, over-all, atleast in sexual hardcore kinks, Jeremy is way more getting enjoyment and content like lots of hardcore fucking, being a active bull, known for his dick.. etc.. and axel too.
All Ian is best is either for romance or cuck. No middle ground. Whatever you do, you can't make Ian as a maledom, hardcore, kinky strong fucker like jeremy who is known for his dick and stealing girls from Ian. I still don't know why Ian is maintaining good friendship with jeremy. If its my real life, i should have left that guy long ago.
Only content with Minerva (female Boss?) is a saving grace for Ian.
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That is true, but that also ends up with the design logic of EvaKiss and why I've for several times said it wasn't very enjoyable.
In GGGB, you can have so much fun because you don't give a fuck about any of those guys, you don't care if you cuck them. In one playthrougth you'll be the right girl for one of them, in the next girl you'll be the worst girl in that guy's life. Since you are playing as the Female Protagonist, you don't feel bad for the Average Joe that goes to Somalia.
In this game, EvaKiss decided "you are going to play a Male Character" just to make it so the content with him is subpar or jealousy inducing, when everyone prefers to be the Bull.
Everyone here that enjoys Jeremy and Axel content views that content self-inserting as Jeremy, Axel or Lena. So they enjoy it. What was the point of having a Male MC at that point?
EvaKiss just decided: "You can either have bad content and feel okay, or you can have good content and feel jealous. Either you completely ignore Ian and skip through all of his content to finally play Lena, or you are gonna have a bad time". That's kinda stupid, to be honest with y'all.
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Just realized that by the time the next update rolls around (or maybe even the beta/final revisions that will be out soon) we'll finally get to see an Alison/Lena meetup.
Which is just great imo, gimme some of that sweet drama.
Which is just great imo, gimme some of that sweet drama.
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I played Ian is a normal guy and Ian as a cuck guy, My only complaint is, Why cant Ian make Jeremy a cuck (alteast a unwilling cuck unlike Ian) instead by sending him the videos (whether he like it or not)? Why there isn't a route where we can make the jeremy life as hell? It is not fair at all. Please dont say making jeremy a cuck isn't a goal. There is space to create type of content but Eva never cared for that. Because her fanbase is more instrested in Ian's Romance & Lena's corruption than anything else.
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Indeed the game does have sound effects, including some moans and other sex noises during at least some lewd scenes.
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Each characters plays his or her part in this story. Jeremy's part is as the horndog male that (some) girls just want to fuck. If you really want to cuck somebody as Ian, cuck Perry by sleeping with Emma (though Perry isn't in a relationship with Emma, he clearly has a major crush on her) and you can certainly cuck the hell out of Wade with Cindy. If Ian getting cuckolded bothers you, when you play as Lena don't take any interest in Jeremy. Seems pretty straightforward. And Ian can be a major chick magnet, too. His dick might not be as massive as Jeremy's, but he scores Allison, Emma, Cindy, etc etc and the don't just think he's awesome in bed, they also fall in love with him. With Jeremy they only want sex, if that. Sorry, I guess I just don't get what the problem is.