- Oct 17, 2019
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No, currently being in relationship with Ian and fucking Jeremy are mutually exclusive paths for Lena.
- Jan 25, 2018
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When are we going to be able to pity fuck Lena's shy photographer roommate?
- Oct 29, 2017
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When he learns to get a chastity device and gets pegged.
- Jun 11, 2017
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I wish every rpgm would have this option. Those games have so much useless grinding in them or they're walking simulators
They already have. Except it's called "just watch the ending on youtube and save the money you'd spend on the game you've had no interest playing".
- Feb 14, 2018
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I hope soon, Stans the fucking man.
Let's all give a prayer for him.
I can't be the only one who lost interest in Robert and Mike right?
They aren't very "spicy".
I always thought it was too bad there wasn't a loser Robert route because I think that's just the only way to make him interesting. I wouldn't really call it a "cuck" route since there's no actual relationship but Robert and Ian are already set up as a colliding antagonizing force with Lena as the "prize." Even semi-confident/competent Ian's are better than Robert in pretty much every way.
Not only do they fight (twice!) but their dates and interactions with Lena are generally right near each other (like same day or next day). In each occasion, Lena remarks how much more she likes Ian than Robert (cause Robert is boring).
A chad, or even normal, Ian has got the bigger cock (slightly longer but noticeably girthier says Lena), more compatibility with Lena, is better at sex (particularly oral), has actual career goals and a real money making career*, is smoother, better at dirty talk (the route where Lena hates Roberts dirty talk is pretty funny), etc. etc. Like it's all there but nobody ever reflects on the fact that in these routes Ian is so much better than Robert. After the second Robert-Ian fight, if Ian wins and is generally dominant, Lena describes her relationship with Robert as "a guy I sleep with occasionally" even if it's only happened once and it was not a great experience. She could have been continuing to string Robert along (refusing to sleep with him and refusing to sext with him etc), where he acts like a sad sack and Lena still describes him as "a guy I sleep with." It'd be a great place to just emphasize how much better Lena thinks Ian is than Robert and that she stopped sleeping with Robert specifically because of how great Ian is. It'd be a really cool way to get some "cuck" fetishes into a dominant route (I'm using the fetish loosely here).
Cuck Ian routes are much better filled by guys like Mike or Axel than Robert too. So it feels like Robert's only effective purpose is to be "cuck Ian" of a dominant Ian route if Lena decided to engage in a casual relationship with him. But even then, it is not a particularly fun experience. This concept is kind of there in that Lena does say things like "Ian is much more sincere than Robert" but they're really quick and never really expanded upon.
*This is really only assuming the game is not set in the US. Career waiters at high-end restaurants in the US (like the Yunalesca seems to be) can make crazy amounts of money. A first year waiter at the type of place that has a sommelier (and serves expensive wines like the ones at Yunalesca) but is not a Michelin star place can still easily make in the 80-90k range and making up into the 200ks is not unheard of for successful head waiters who have been doing it for a bit. I dunno about high end waiters in other parts of the world where tipping is less common tho.
Not only do they fight (twice!) but their dates and interactions with Lena are generally right near each other (like same day or next day). In each occasion, Lena remarks how much more she likes Ian than Robert (cause Robert is boring).
A chad, or even normal, Ian has got the bigger cock (slightly longer but noticeably girthier says Lena), more compatibility with Lena, is better at sex (particularly oral), has actual career goals and a real money making career*, is smoother, better at dirty talk (the route where Lena hates Roberts dirty talk is pretty funny), etc. etc. Like it's all there but nobody ever reflects on the fact that in these routes Ian is so much better than Robert. After the second Robert-Ian fight, if Ian wins and is generally dominant, Lena describes her relationship with Robert as "a guy I sleep with occasionally" even if it's only happened once and it was not a great experience. She could have been continuing to string Robert along (refusing to sleep with him and refusing to sext with him etc), where he acts like a sad sack and Lena still describes him as "a guy I sleep with." It'd be a great place to just emphasize how much better Lena thinks Ian is than Robert and that she stopped sleeping with Robert specifically because of how great Ian is. It'd be a really cool way to get some "cuck" fetishes into a dominant route (I'm using the fetish loosely here).
Cuck Ian routes are much better filled by guys like Mike or Axel than Robert too. So it feels like Robert's only effective purpose is to be "cuck Ian" of a dominant Ian route if Lena decided to engage in a casual relationship with him. But even then, it is not a particularly fun experience. This concept is kind of there in that Lena does say things like "Ian is much more sincere than Robert" but they're really quick and never really expanded upon.
*This is really only assuming the game is not set in the US. Career waiters at high-end restaurants in the US (like the Yunalesca seems to be) can make crazy amounts of money. A first year waiter at the type of place that has a sommelier (and serves expensive wines like the ones at Yunalesca) but is not a Michelin star place can still easily make in the 80-90k range and making up into the 200ks is not unheard of for successful head waiters who have been doing it for a bit. I dunno about high end waiters in other parts of the world where tipping is less common tho.
Robert feels completely pointless given Lena by default makes it very clear she finds him very off-putting and wants nothing to do with him. But then suddenly you get option to have sex with him without any buildup and it's like... "but why would you even want to?" Dude has literally nothing going for him.
- Feb 14, 2018
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He's just not likeable at all honestly.
Even in a route of Lena solely sleeping with him I just laid on the skip button because he's so boring.
That the problem with Robert, he has zero redeeming qualities, in comparsion to Mike for example, he is worse in bed, has no personality, has no kink like Mike(has gf cheating), nothing to spice things up, all he cares about is scoring with the model, Eva should have given him either good personality or associated some fetish to him to make him relevant in any way, when even protagonist without your input says that Robert is nothing special, why even bother with him?
Imagine if Robert was a sub in bed for example, while Mike is a dom choice, that would atleast make him interesting in some way since Lena is obviously a switch(Louise content vs Axel).
Imagine if Robert was a sub in bed for example, while Mike is a dom choice, that would atleast make him interesting in some way since Lena is obviously a switch(Louise content vs Axel).
- Feb 14, 2018
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One of the scenes where Lena ends it with him and gives the “I thought there was more between us!” or whatever shtick I was thinking to myself holy crap this guy is the worst. This is the only game I can think of where such a character exists.
I will say I’m curious as to what his endings are exactly when we get there.
The game tries for realism, so that why we rarely see something like that i guess, he is just too average imo, every other love interest has something to them, even boring Holly has "i'm new to those things and want to try stuff" shtick, Robert is just a dude and a pretty dense at that too.
- Feb 14, 2018
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You find Holly boring? I enjoy her and like being able to twist the innocent into something else. And she has glasses.
Hell you know what would help Robert? Not having a generic look (not a knock on the artist or whatever). I probably think it because i’m in the camp that doesn’t care much for the typical “fuck boy look” like Robert, Mike, and Axel but he just looks bland (again not a knock on artist).
Its just every porn game has "Holly" its not like she is bad in any way, i bet she is more developed then most of others "Holly's", i tried her Ian route recently and its just does not compare to any other love interest he has imo, so i just go for someone else as him, Lena/Holly is alot better imo since in terms of lesbian relationship you dont really have much of a choice.
Bro he looks so old lol, when he was talking about wanting to move from his parents so he got that job i did double take, i was thinking he is like 35+ or something with his face and all that.
- Feb 14, 2018
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Thats fair.
Well even with that id say Holly is my 2nd favorite relationship overall for Lena, considering again most of her male options are the typical fuck boy route (I will say I did like her scene with Jeremy when she woke him up), I’ve been waiting for something to happen between her and Ed in the mean time all my money is on Stans name.
I wouldn’t see the problem in making him a lonely older dude thats a loser that Lena feels bad for (in the process, a sub) or something. Id say a younger loner but we have Stan for that already.
For sure, Lena options outside of Ian(wich is not my cup of tea, but in terms of "healty" they can be pretty good) are either boring Rob, cheating Mike(his scenes are pretty hot tho), Jeremy that is obviously fetish route and not really "love", Axel that forces himself on you even if you are just friendly to him(without horny dreams and stuff like that), Stan scenes are fun for sure, but i cant take him seriously as a love interest only as a fun addition like Jeremy, so if I do a normal playtrough(without going too wild) i just go Holly as Lena, Ian on the other hand has pretty normal relationships outside of Minerva(even she has real love rouite in the future since we got our first "heart" dialogue with her recently).
It would be more interesting if Robert was more into "be nice to me or you lose your job" then it would make more sense to sleep with him if Lena is desperate enough.
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His 'pointlessness' is his point
Lena's paths all take long buildups. She can have sex with Ian in chapter 4, Louise and Mike in 5, Jeremy and Holly in 7, Seymour and Axel in 9. Ian has Alison and Cherry in chapter 2 already so Lena needs someone to fuck early in the game, hence Robert.
He is supposed to be a lesser Ian, a 'bad' option for Lena, without him she would feel even more railroaded into a hooking up with Ian.
Now, after most of her paths have opened up for Lena, he is indeed pointless. So he'll fade away simply by not showing up any more. He actually has a scene in chapter 10, you only get it if you get in an argument with Ian and didn't go for Mike.