VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

So, you are saying upto now there is no way Lena can fuck jeremy if she fucked Ian before? There is no chance for cheating by Lena on Ian with jeremy?

What am saying is that just because Lena has hooked up with Ian doesn't mean she is cheating on Ian if she then decides to hook up with Jeremy. She doesn't own Ian anything just because she casually fucked him once or twice. Just like Ian who has fucked Cherry isn't cheating on Cherry if he then hooks up with Lena. The characters haven't promised one another anything, especially exclusivity of sexual contacts.

So yeah, currently there's no chance for Lena to cheat on Ian with Jeremy. She can cheat on Ian with some other people (Axel, Mike, Mark and i think Robert. Some would say also Seymour, and Lena herself thinks Ian would never approve of her "contract work" if he was aware of it. There's also Louise and Ivy, but here Lena isn't sure if this "counts as cheating")

But, according to NTR meaning, atleast in f95, even though it is not cheating, atleast if MC(Ian) is jealous about potential love interest fucking with another men, which I think Ian might express in later updates, sure it is termed as NTR.

Since Ian doesn't express jealousy, by your own logic it is not NTR. That he might express it down the road is moot, because he just as well might not.

NTR definition on f95 is frequently taken to absurd lengths that's "It's NTR if it upsets me (and everything upsets me)" by idiots, so i wouldn't exactly take it as a gospel, or even much of a guideline.

Or if Lena somehow gets option to "cheat" on Ian with jeremy even though she is in relationship with Ian (which may be available in future because of NTR fanbase), then it will be NTR according to your defination also.

Yes, if such option actually appears in game then it will be cheating/NTR. The point is, what's currently in the game between Lena and Jeremy doesn't meet these criteria.

So, yeah Jeremy might not be a shit friend according to your defination and analysis, but he will be sooner or later.

Or he will not. You're allowing your presumptions to drive your conclusions. That's a very poor logic, or frankly complete lack thereof.

 

[ffive]

Is there anything interesting going on with Lena now that isn't just turning Lena into a slut when Lena x Ian doesn't happen?

Lena can selectively focus on people other than Ian (to the point of developing feelings for them) she isn't obliged to sleep around with everything that moves. Whether you'll find it interesting, i don't know.

 

[bwlackhite]

other people: complaining about NTR sex related stuff etc.
me: waiting for IAN to be a champion in the tournament, number 1 writer and best seller, going to be the CEO of the company, Maxing the chad meter etc. and for LENA waiting for her to be number 1 musician, to be an actress(i dont care if she a pornstar),top 1 model, Maxing the posh meter etc.

for now i dont want IanxLena to commit into a relationship its still to early maybe at the end of the game just like gggb which you can decide to commit or not, just casual for now

oh yeah cant wait for IanxIvy, IanxNat, IanxJess, IanxLouise, IanxAlice? and i want some IanxHolly (the friends with benefits kind) because holly is becoming more of a lena so yeah hahaha

 

[rafinator89]

No. I want jeremy to be a shit friend to Ian and want some revenge route with Jeremy by playing as Ian & kick his ass, make his life as hell for being a shit friend. And i will do whatever i can in the game to have that route, even if it is making choices for Lena to be a cheater.

But the question is, will EvaKiss provide me these options? I doubt knowing her love for BBC fetish, jeremy may come out as winner at last.

So... Basically you are a racist person, arent you? Because I just see complains about Jeremy blah blah blah but Axel can fuck Lena almost in your face and I havent seeing you complain or wanting a revenge to him, I suppose because he is white, blonde and tall LOL

 

[Tulrek]

I looked for it without success.
What are the requierments for Lena joining Ivy and Holly at Ivy's place ?

 

[harsha_26]

So... Basically you are a racist person, arent you? Because I just see complains about Jeremy blah blah blah but Axel can fuck Lena almost in your face and I havent seeing you complain or wanting a revenge to him, I suppose because he is white, blonde and tall LOL

I'm a brown guy. And i have similarities with black more than white. Im upset with jeremy unlike axel Because he almost gets every potential Li of Ian except one or two like cindy and cherry. May be they too somehow end up fucking with jeremy later. He have more probability and proximity to fuck Ian's girls and thats what make me jealous of him. Its not racist.

 

[harsha_26]

What am saying is that just because Lena has hooked up with Ian doesn't mean she is cheating on Ian if she then decides to hook up with Jeremy. She doesn't own Ian anything just because she casually fucked him once or twice. Just like Ian who has fucked Cherry isn't cheating on Cherry if he then hooks up with Lena. The characters haven't promised one another anything, especially exclusivity of sexual contacts.

So yeah, currently there's no chance for Lena to cheat on Ian with Jeremy. She can cheat on Ian with some other people (Axel, Mike, Mark and i think Robert. Some would say also Seymour, and Lena herself thinks Ian would never approve of her "contract work" if he was aware of it. There's also Louise and Ivy, but here Lena isn't sure if this "counts as cheating")


Since Ian doesn't express jealousy, by your own logic it is not NTR. That he might express it down the road is moot, because he just as well might not.

NTR definition on f95 is frequently taken to absurd lengths that's "It's NTR if it upsets me (and everything upsets me)" by idiots, so i wouldn't exactly take it as a gospel, or even much of a guideline.


Yes, if such option actually appears in game then it will be cheating/NTR. The point is, what's currently in the game between Lena and Jeremy doesn't meet these criteria.


Or he will not. You're allowing your presumptions to drive your conclusions. That's a very poor logic, or frankly complete lack thereof.

Im allowing my presumptions to drive my conclusions because i know my conclusions will prove me right in the future because i know how evakiss dealt with GGGB. So, if she wants her fanbase (which is mostly into seeing Lena is a cheating slut, Ian as a major cuck) to be happy, then she has to make my conclusions true. There is no other way.

If my conclusions proved me wrong, i will be more happy because Ian by default wont be a cuck even by lena's and Ian's choices. But we both know it is not true lol. Im just saying for jeremy to be a shit friend for Ian. Because, then i may have chance to take revenge on him by playing as Ian.

 

[lockerxx]

Why Eva? Why?

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holy shit i miss this (sorry i was looking for the sex scenes).
ok but Dave is with eva

 

[ffive]

I looked for it without success.
What are the requierments for Lena joining Ivy and Holly at Ivy's place ?

        "{image=icon_lust.webp}I'm willing to help" if (lena_lust > 5 and lena_go_holly > 0 and v8_holly_strip and ian_lena_dating == False) or (lena_lust > 5 and lena_go_holly > 0 and v8_holly_strip and ian_lena_over):

Lena's Lust attribute must be 6 or more, she must've expressed some interest in Holly (thinking about her while masturbating) and she can't be dating Ian (either through break up or by not getting too involved in the first place)

 

[lipe2410]

He have more probability and proximity to fuck Ian's girls and thats what make me jealous of him.

I really don't get why you're jealous of Jeremy. He can fuck some girls? Yes. But the key word here is "can", meaning he also can get no pussy at all. And Ian can easily fuck way, way more girls than Jeremy.
Seriously, i have playthroughts when Jeremy simply doesn't fuck anybody: Ian is fucking Alison, so she completely ignores him. Lena has zero interest in him and his BBC, told Louise he is flirting with Ivy and made them brook up. Ian also fuck Lena, Cindy and Minerva. So, Ian 4x0 Jeremy.
And in others saves of mine, i ignore Alison and Jeremy fuck her, yeah. But even in this saves Ian fucks Cherry, Emma (and doesn't share her with him), Lena, Cindy and Minerva. Ian 5x1 Jeremy.
So you're jealous because Jeremy CAN fuck some of "Ian's girls", while you, as Ian, can objectively fuck many more girls than him? Really doesn't make sense.

i will be more happy because Ian by default wont be a cuck even by lena's and Ian's choices

This is completely unreasonable. You don't wanna Ian turn into a cuck even if players pick these choices? So what will be the meaning to give these choices anyway? If you don't wanna Ian be a cuck, just don't play him as cuck. Play Ian as chad player and Lena as someone crazy for him and his cock. That's it. There is even a variable ian_dom_lena who track how dominant Ian can be with Lena (and she like it). But now, if you are one those sensible guys that simply don't like the mere existence of some paths in the game and feels hurt simply by see other people enjoying and talking about these paths, you should simply stop play these type of games

 

[Chuck_Bass]

So... Basically you are a racist person, arent you? Because I just see complains about Jeremy blah blah blah but Axel can fuck Lena almost in your face and I havent seeing you complain or wanting a revenge to him, I suppose because he is white, blonde and tall LOL

LOL.
It's a little racist to presume people will dislike someone just because they are black. People who only see color usually are secretly huge racists themselves.
Anyway, Axel and Lena got lots of history and some unresolved feeling, it's more natural for them to be involved. Jeremy is just a random guy with a big dick.

 

[ffive]

Im allowing my presumptions to drive my conclusions because i know my conclusions will prove me right in the future because i know how evakiss dealt with GGGB. So, if she wants her fanbase (which is mostly into seeing Lena is a cheating slut, Ian as a major cuck) to be happy, then she has to make my conclusions true. There is no other way.

Eva Kiss has stated this game wasn't going to be the same as GGGB, so you're basically piling up false presumptions on top of other presumptions. There certainly are other ways this particular game might play out. In fact, take note of complaints in this very thread how this game is considerably more constrained than GGGB was. Should be some food for thoughts.

 

[Tulrek]

        "{image=icon_lust.webp}I'm willing to help" if (lena_lust > 5 and lena_go_holly > 0 and v8_holly_strip and ian_lena_dating == False) or (lena_lust > 5 and lena_go_holly > 0 and v8_holly_strip and ian_lena_over):

Lena's Lust attribute must be 6 or more, she must've expressed some interest in Holly (thinking about her while masturbating) and she can't be dating Ian (either through break up or by not getting too involved in the first place)

Thanks a lot. Here goes for my 24th playthrough !!

 

[rainnnnnn]

Why is the first option locked for me I followed the wallkthrough that gives the most Axel points?

 

[ffive]

Why is the first option locked for me I followed the wallkthrough that gives the most Axel points?

Are you playing the final release version of the game? This option was bugged in alpha (and possibly beta build, can't remember) and required more points than it was possible to get.

 

[rainnnnnn]

Are you playing the final release version of the game? This option was bugged in alpha (and possibly beta build, can't remember) and required more points than it was possible to get.

I'm palying the final build with the alpha version of the JMOD maybe that's why it's bugged

 

[ffive]

I'm palying the final build with the alpha version of the JMOD maybe that's why it's bugged

The mod probably replaces original script lines with versions with hints so yup, very likely it retains the bug from alpha.

 

[rafinator89]

LOL.
It's a little racist to presume people will dislike someone just because they are black. People who only see color usually are secretly huge racists themselves.
Anyway, Axel and Lena got lots of history and some unresolved feeling, it's more natural for them to be involved. Jeremy is just a random guy with a big dick.

Hahahahahahahahha good joke man, I am not the one crying because Jeremy can have sex

 

[evilkitty97]

I got a couple of questions. Tried finding it in the walkthrough but its difficult to find. And also regarding 0.10 version which isnt in the walkthrough yet.

How does Lena x Ian become an official couple? Like what are required for them to be one?
I started going with every guy while dating Ian and I cant get them to be a couple.
I think one of the things that sabotaged their official knot was

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Then regarding 0.10 scenes.

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[ffive]

How does Lena x Ian become an official couple? Like what are required for them to be one?

            "{image=icon_ring.webp}I want a relationship with you" if (ian_alison_love == False and ian_lena_love) or (ian_alison_love == False and ian_lena > 8):

Ian can request relationship with Lena if he isn't in relationship with Alison, and if his relationship with Lena is at 9 points or more, or if he told Jeremy he might be falling for her, in chapter 7.

                # 1 - AGREE
                if lena_ian_love and v8_jeremy_sex == False:
                    $ ian_lena_couple = True

Lena will agree to Ian's request to become a couple if she's cuddled up with Ian after sex in chapter 7 (the heart option) and if she didn't fuck Jeremy in chapter 8.

I started going with every guy while dating Ian and I cant get them to be a couple.

Gee, i wonder why.