VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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Hello guys,
normally the Alpha for the next chapter should already be out, but as I said in my previous post this time it will take a bit longer. I'm taking some more time with the writing since there are complex scenes and I have to carefully plan and implement some plot points and narrative mechanics and, besides, thoughtful writing takes time.

The Alpha shouldn't be delayed too long: I hope to be able to finish all the remaining task during next week, so the Alpha should be out by around the 6th or 7th, followed by the Beta and then final release around the 15th, I hope.

After that is done I will begin work on Chapter 5, and that one should be out late August if my calculations are somewhat accurate. After that I'll probably take a much needed time off, probably during September, and Chapter 6 will be released at the end of October.

This is more or less my plan, let me know what do you think! But before that break I have to finish Chapter 4 and deliver Chapter 5, so a lot more content coming your way! I hope you'll enjoy the new scenes, choices and drama. Stay tuned!

 

[KingNtr++]

damn chapter 4 come out next week
it hurt... olo...

 

[Jtac]

So its becoming more of a 1.5 month break between chapters then. That's fine and its a well deserved several times over rest for eva. Hopefully she keeps the team working on something in the mean time like gggb clean up / eric dlc or something.

 

[boogiecookie]

What's it called?

https://f95zone.to/threads/honeypot-demo-sinfall-studios.55447/

it's a demo for now and the story looks promising (i'm waiting to turn her into a femme fatale ^_^)

 

[Xiondingens]

I must've misunderstood then. I was thinking being a cuckold is feminization

Hm, well let us blame all those porn sites that only tag the most humiliating of them as cuckold and a lot of the rest just as threesome, sure degradation can be part of it, but i would assume in RL it is mostly just done for involving another person to spice up the sex and not playing some sort of powerplay to refuse the cuck sex completly and turn him into a little sissy girl. Okay, i guess that exist too outthere, but i have my doubts most cucks would actually agree to such stuff.

I'm taking some more time with the writing since there are complex scenes and I have to carefully plan and implement some plot points and narrative mechanics and, besides, thoughtful writing takes time.

Hm, i wonder is that does mean the next update will fix what did bother me so much with the last one. I mean i still was the usual eva quality, but something did bother me. And it took me a while to be able to point with the finger on it and what i dislike of the current state of the game is, we have allready got teased by so much different routes, but so far it doesnt really feels like as if we would actually be able to play one. So far i did blame the early state of the game for it, i cant help it but it really does reduce the amount of fun i have with it atm. I wonder if i should just skip the next update to make sure that feeling will be gone when the game gets more flesh on its bones.

 

[msleomac]

What's it called?

honeypot

 

[patachoucs]

I seriously command Eva Kiss both for her ability to work hard and provide consistant, top quality updates, but for her communication skills as well. And feel like she fully deserves to take a month off and hope she'll get some quality time and rest.
Also, I'm so hyped for chapter 4 !!

 

[Satiro]

Eva needs a deserved rest, she´s not a robot. Its good to clear the mind and release stress. Good job¡¡

 

[BloodyMares]

I must've misunderstood then. I was thinking being a cuckold is feminization

Huh? Cuckold and sissification/feminization are completely different kinks. They might overlap in certain stories but generally, they don't. And cuckold doesn't have to mean 'beta' or include humiliation like it was the case with Eric in GGGB. This fetish can be written in a kind of romantic way, where a male partner gets off on the idea of his SO being naughty with others and she may tease him a little bit but not become a bitch and treat him badly, humiliate and refuse sex, etc. Because at the core, there should be a foundation of a loving relationship ("They may have access to my body, but only you have my heart"), and I didn't feel it was the case with Ash and Eric's cuckold route at all, which is fine, but I hope ORS tackles this subject differently.

EDIT: I'm glad I'm not the only one who is aware of the difference.

 

[SpikeZg]

Wow!, so we are getting ch4 & ch5 before she takes a break, noice
she clearly needs a break, releasing all this awesome updates every single month is damn hard work.

 

[mehGusta]

Huh? Cuckold and sissification/feminization are completely different kinks. They might overlap in certain stories but generally, they don't. And cuckold doesn't have to mean 'beta' or include humiliation like it was the case with Eric in GGGB. This fetish can be written in a kind of romantic way, where a male partner gets off on the idea of his SO being naughty with others and she may tease him a little bit but not become a bitch and treat him badly, humiliate and refuse sex, etc. Because at the core, there should be a foundation of a loving relationship ("They may have access to my body, but only you have my heart"), and I didn't feel it was the case with Ash and Eric's cuckold route at all, which is fine, but I hope ORS tackles this subject differently.

EDIT: I'm glad I'm not the only one who is aware of the difference.

yeah, the humiliation or the heart getting stolen situations are the worst case scenarios for real life cuckold and are pretty much the complete opposite of a healthy relationship. i get that in fictional storys it's also ok to have fictional disasters happen to you, because that might be interesting to feel/think about. but i rather like, if it's cuckold cuckquean or wife/husband sharing, when it's done with mutual consent. i mean isn't it extremely hot to not only be allowed to "cheat" on your wife/husband, but also that your partner actually wants you to do it, that they even get off on you doing it?

 

[Amahl Farouk]

Is there a feminization path for Ian?

That would be pretty cool actually. Eva actually has the writing chops to pull it off too

 

[BloodyMares]

yeah, the humiliation or the heart getting stolen situations are the worst case scenarios for real life cuckold and are pretty much the complete opposite of a healthy relationship. i get that in fictional storys it's also ok to have fictional disasters happen to you, because that might be interesting to feel/think about. but i rather like, if it's cuckold cuckquean or wife/husband sharing, when it's done with mutual consent. i mean isn't it extremely hot to not only be allowed to "cheat" on your wife/husband, but also that your partner actually wants you to do it, that they even get off on you doing it?

I guess compersion is a really strange/uncomfortable subject for most people in mainstream media (polyamory is still looked down upon), and porn isn't really successful at portraying deep and complex emotions and chooses to separate it into "group sex" and "cuckold" where for group sex it's a one-time sharing but for cuckold, you're supposed to picture yourself as a bull and make fun of a "hubby". Romantic hotwifing is very rare and tends to be tagged as "for women", but "cuckold" tag is straight-up abuse or cheating, only with a male partner too feeble to demand a breakup, so there's a sort-of false image that's trying to sell toxic abusive relationship as a kink. That's why I prefer reading erotic stories to watching porn, they can portray the complexity of human emotion and actually develop a nice story about the subject. Because of that, I think visual novels/games allow us to experience the best of both worlds, and with Eva's writing, it's possible to have the complexity of erotic tales with the graphic sex of porn.
It's just sad that many people choose to consider adult visual novels as nothing more than your typical porn but with text and choices added on top of it, and get frustrated when Eva tries to improve her storytelling.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Huh? Cuckold and sissification/feminization are completely different kinks. They might overlap in certain stories but generally, they don't. And cuckold doesn't have to mean 'beta' or include humiliation like it was the case with Eric in GGGB. This fetish can be written in a kind of romantic way, where a male partner gets off on the idea of his SO being naughty with others and she may tease him a little bit but not become a bitch and treat him badly, humiliate and refuse sex, etc. Because at the core, there should be a foundation of a loving relationship ("They may have access to my body, but only you have my heart"), and I didn't feel it was the case with Ash and Eric's cuckold route at all, which is fine, but I hope ORS tackles this subject differently.

EDIT: I'm glad I'm not the only one who is aware of the difference.

Well, see, that's where my confusion came in. In most of the cuckold (ntr) games I've played one of the main themes was the humiliation of the MC and the MC being denied.

 

[DatBoit]

It all depends on whether you consider cuckold to be the accurate term for the male in a swinging/sharing/hotwifing relationship. If so, then yes, being a cuckold does not mean you have to be humiliated. However, it draws your mind to cuckolding, which is most definintely distinct from the other types of relationships.

Cuckolding is set apart specifically because there is some form of humiliation for the male in the relationship. This can come from both the female and the bull, and in its extreme, include sissyfication where the male dresses as a female. The other thing that really sets cuckolding apart is the fact that the male is submissive, allowing the female to dominate him and call the shots. Often, this means that she chooses her partners and how they will play, potentially even how the male will be humiliated.

When it comes to swinging/sharing/hotwifing, this is no longer true. The male and the female will collaborate a lot more, the mutuality is increased, and there is no humiliation.

With that being said, I agree that cuckold situations are often over represented by cuckolding. I am not a particular fan of this, because I consider the humiliation/submission involved a huge turn-off. So I too hope that we will see more balanced and nuanced polyamorous relationships, where its a mutual thing that brings more joy and sex lust into the relationship.

 

[effninefivehuman]

Goss_IP is up there with GGGB I'd say.

Hello, which game is this?

 

[Baka!]

It is early to say but I think Eva Kiss will definitely give Ian a cuckold route (probably with Lena as his girlfriend), it really is an idea that excites me because it is a route that can connect very well with other routes such as Lena x Ed route, imagine this situation, Lena and Ian are a couple and they love each other, but they have absolutely no sex (maybe Lena sometimes masturbates him or gives him a blowjob), Lena and Ed have a very active sexual relationship, Ian and Molly know it, Molly and Ed want Lena to have Ed's baby, we control Lena and Ian and we decide what they think of that situation and what they are going to do. It sounds exciting!

 

[BloodyMares]

It is early to say but I think Eva Kiss will definitely give Ian a cuckold route (probably with Lena as his girlfriend), it really is an idea that excites me because it is a route that can connect very well with other routes such as Lena x Ed route, imagine this situation, Lena and Ian are a couple and they love each other, but they have absolutely no sex (maybe Lena sometimes masturbates him or gives him a blowjob), Lena and Ed have a very active sexual relationship, Ian and Molly know it, Molly and Ed want Lena to have Ed's baby, we control Lena and Ian and we decide what they think of that situation and what they are going to do. It sounds exciting!

Pass. Ian is a stud and leaves all of his girls satisfied. It would be very dumb for Lena to deny him sex, as it would be more like denying herself. I don't think Ian is the kind of guy who would calmly participate in this type of relationship where humiliation is involved, especially after what happened with Gillian. If the sharing route is involved (and it's obvious it will be), in order for it to feel justified, there should be some deep emotional bond between them with sex involved, otherwise, it's just going to be a boring self-repeat of Eric's cuck route.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

It is early to say but I think Eva Kiss will definitely give Ian a cuckold route (probably with Lena as his girlfriend), it really is an idea that excites me because it is a route that can connect very well with other routes such as Lena x Ed route, imagine this situation, Lena and Ian are a couple and they love each other, but they have absolutely no sex (maybe Lena sometimes masturbates him or gives him a blowjob), Lena and Ed have a very active sexual relationship, Ian and Molly know it, Molly and Ed want Lena to have Ed's baby, we control Lena and Ian and we decide what they think of that situation and what they are going to do. It sounds exciting!

I wouldn't be surprised for there to be a cuckold route. Ian failing to get hard and then thinking to himself that Jeremy could do better is a pretty obvious indicator to me tbh.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Pass. Ian is a stud and leaves all of his girls satisfied. It would be very dumb for Lena to deny him sex, as it would be more like denying herself. I don't think Ian is the kind of guy who would calmly participate in this type of relationship where humiliation is involved, especially after what happened with Gillian. If the sharing route is involved (and it's obvious it will be), in order for it to feel justified, there should be some deep emotional bond between them with sex involved, otherwise, it's just going to be a boring self-repeat of Eric's cuck route.

Leaving his girls satisfied is debatable depending on what choices you made