VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Chuck_Bass]

Then we're in furious agreement! F/F would be a purely emotionally betrayal - though it would also depend on the way it was communicated like you said - if she was sketchy about it; ala "What's your problem I just hung out with friends on friday" when you know she slept in a girls bed, much more hurtful vs "Oh yah I messed around with Katie last friday, she's so hot!"

Oddly even imagining having a gf leave me for a girl is less hurtful than her cheating with a guy and wanting to stay in relationship. - I guess I could rationalize it as; she had desires I'd never be able to fufill - but not in a way that makes me insecure; I literally don't have the equipment even if I was the hottest guy on earth....

Or, my dick game is so bad I turned her gay.
Hurts more.

 

[Mr. Muscles]

It's plain cheating, regardless. Lena could have at least told Ian that Louise has a thing for her and whatnot, especially in the scenario where they agreed to experiment. That's where I think the script should have been better. But hey, if the game thinks that F/F is less of a cheating, and therefore it's not that bad, that means less drama later on (possibly) while opening the way for the F/F/M content with Ian. So, a win for F95 users?

 

[ffive]

But hey, if the game thinks that F/F is less of a cheating, and therefore it's not that bad, that means less drama later on (possibly) while opening the way for the F/F/M content with Ian.

Let's be honest, the amount of drama is most likely going to boil down to the player's choice. So you'll be able to make as big or as little deal out of it as you please. Much like you can have Ian react to Lena's Stalkfap content, e.g.

 

[Mr. Muscles]

Let's be honest, the amount of drama is most likely going to boil down to the player's choice. So you'll be able to make as big or as little deal out of it as you please. Much like you can have Ian react to Lena's Stalkfap content, e.g.

Considering how I mentioned this stuff can lead to the F/F/M, yeah, that's mostly given. But it's not the first time the game assumes things for you, so anything can happen.

 

[avrildelauvergne]

Another dev who thinks a female cheating on her male SO with a female is not really cheating She's a woman though!

I may understand relationships differently, but how is Lena cheating on Ian with Lou? She doms her, but they're friends, not lovers. They're just continuing the same thing they did as friends even before she was in a relationship with Ian.

Really interesting how Lena thinks that being with Louise and Ivy might not be cheating, she's even more sure of that about the former. As for Ian, he's quite sure of what to think regarding the same topic. I guess that's the set-up for the threesomes the Ian/Lena path might have if they chose to experiment, depending on how well Ian takes the news.

Actually wanted to reply to this

 

[ffive]

She doms her, but they're friends, not lovers.

Well, people don't need to be lovers with person they fuck behind their partner's back, in order for it to be cheating. "He/she is just my friend with benefits" isn't going to cut it as explanation. It's sexual activity that generally counts, whether there's any deeper feelings involved or not.

Also, i think Louise would strongly disagree with the idea she and Lena are "just friends" at this point. Much like she was quick to consider Jeremy her boyfriend.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Then we're in furious agreement! F/F would be a purely emotionally betrayal - though it would also depend on the way it was communicated like you said - if she was sketchy about it; ala "What's your problem I just hung out with friends on friday" when you know she slept in a girls bed, much more hurtful vs "Oh yah I messed around with Katie last friday, she's so hot!"

Oddly even imagining having a gf leave me for a girl is less hurtful than her cheating with a guy and wanting to stay in relationship. - I guess I could rationalize it as; she had desires I'd never be able to fufill - but not in a way that makes me insecure; I literally don't have the equipment even if I was the hottest guy on earth....

Thanks for clarifying. I'm the same on the latter paragraph too. Still devastating if you love her, of course. But it doesn't shatter the ego or bring up primal instincts the same way if it can be reasoned off as an equipment compatibility issue.

 

[avrildelauvergne]

Well, people don't need to be lovers with person they fuck behind their partner's back, in order for it to be cheating. "He/she is just my friend with benefits" isn't going to cut it as explanation. It's sexual activity that generally counts, whether there's any deeper feelings involved or not.

To be fair you're right, the fact that it's being done behind Ian's back is what makes it shitty. Although idk if I would consider just sexual activity between friends to be actual cheating (if it's a thing that was done before the relationship as well lol, it's kinda weird if you suddenly start fucking your friend while you're in a committed relationship lol), but it's definitely shitty and if someone else would consider it cheating I wouldn't say they're wrong.

Everyone in the game is just utterly and annoyingly terrible at communication to the point of most characters doing everything behind everyone's back and acting like sociopaths, but I get that it's for the sake of drama. In stuff like BAD that doesn't take itself too seriously poor communication doesn't annoy me as much, but in ORS basically the entire "deeply dramatic and dark" plot is just based off of everyone being antisocial weirdos

 

[avrildelauvergne]

Well, people don't need to be lovers with person they fuck behind their partner's back, in order for it to be cheating. "He/she is just my friend with benefits" isn't going to cut it as explanation. It's sexual activity that generally counts, whether there's any deeper feelings involved or not.

Also, i think Louise would strongly disagree with the idea she and Lena are "just friends" at this point. Much like she was quick to consider Jeremy her boyfriend.

Lou is a bit... easily attached to say the least. But we love her for that reason too :')

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

I has been wanting to include a scene like this for quite some time, and it was finally the moment. I know you're starved for Ivy content, but she's not an easy catch: Jeremy has been trying to get her since Chapter 1 and he's still struggling! Did you make Ivy struggle in the grappling match or was she too much for Ian?

So, how do I get this scene?

 

[Blurpee69]

Is there a way to get Alison's belly button pierced that I'm missing? I've seen screen grabs with a green gem, but every time I get her to her second outfit, she never has it. I figured that teasing her about Cherry's would be the key, but that doesn't seem to do it. Was it removed in the latest update and the screen grabs are all from older versions?

 

[Bom969]

I tried a new path. It's cherry path with an open relationship with Lena and affair with emma, Minerva and Cindy. But in this Ian refuses to have threesome with Alison when Jeremy asks him. Any way to get that? Only way to get that for me tille now is if I ask for casual relationship with lena.
Please let me know if there is another way

 

[Chuck_Bass]

I may understand relationships differently, but how is Lena cheating on Ian with Lou? She doms her, but they're friends, not lovers. They're just continuing the same thing they did as friends even before she was in a relationship with Ian.



Actually wanted to reply to this

Sure, it's a friendly thing to lick each other's twats, finger bang each other, french kiss and play with dildos.

 

[avrildelauvergne]

Sure, it's a friendly thing to lick each other's twats, finger bang each other, french kiss and play with dildos.

I mean it genuinely can just be a thing you start doing with a friend without any change in the actual friendship. I don't think it's super weird, I would even say it's pretty normal when you're young/in college.

Obviously not for everyone but I know a bunch of examples from the people I know

 

[saltynip]

So, how do I get this scene?

If I remember correctly, Ian needs to be in a relationship with Lena and in the Bar scene where Ian and Jeremy encountered Axel, Ian comes clean with him about Lena, then in Chapter 10 when Ian decided to go to Gym and train with Jeremy, Jeremy stood him up, then Ivy shows up.
Oh, and there are additional Ivy points you need to acquire? I think.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

I mean it genuinely can just be a thing you start doing with a friend without any change in the actual friendship. I don't think it's super weird, I would even say it's pretty normal when you're young/in college.

Obviously not for everyone but I know a bunch of examples from the people I know

It's not weird if you are both single and unattached.
If I found out my girlfriend was doing "friendly" things like that behind my back I would break up with her in the same day.
The decent thing in this situation is to be upfront about it because sex(even lesbian sex) is definitely cheating.

 

[avrildelauvergne]

It's not weird if you are both single and unattached.
If I found out my girlfriend was doing "friendly" things like that behind my back I would break up with her in the same day.
The decent thing in this situation is to be upfront about it because sex(even lesbian sex) is definitely cheating.

To be fair they were both unattached when it started... well Lou wasn't but I don't think Jeremy would care about that so much they just continued doing it even after Lena becoming official with Ian... which I'm not 100% sure I'd call cheating because it's still the same friends doing the same thing as before, but it's definitely shitty because there was zero communication with the partner who might or might not be okay with that

 

[dolfe67]

To be fair they were both unattached when it started... well Lou wasn't but I don't think Jeremy would care about that so much they just continued doing it even after Lena becoming official with Ian... which I'm not 100% sure I'd call cheating because it's still the same friends doing the same thing as before, but it's definitely shitty because there was zero communication with the partner who might or might not be okay with that

Would you think the same if Louise was a male? If you do, you're a cuck

 

[Mr. Muscles]

Once again, the game clearly treats Ian and Lena as, let's say, “attached” the moment they commit. A proper open relationship would have Lena mentioning Louise shortly after that, but the game doesn't make it happen. It's certainly not an open relationship, not as of chapter 10.

 

[avrildelauvergne]

Would you think the same if Louise was a male? If you do, you're a cuck

Probably not, but honestly every exclusive relationship I've been in sucked so bad that I don't think I would ever be in the situation so much jealousy, exclusive relationships can have so much baggage and it ends up just totally not worth the emotional trouble. For me at least, not arguing that it's true for everyone.

A proper open relationship would have Lena mentioning Louise shortly after that, but the game doesn't make it happen.

Agreed. Don't think it's cheating, but it's definitely terrible communication and shitty towards the partner