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ffive

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Alright, than how many MFF threesomes is Ian in compared to the MMF threesomes lena is in?
Am sleepy so someone will probably have to correct this, but iirc these numbers are both zero. There's no MFF threesome for Ian and there's no MMF threesome for Lena. For opposite sort of pairing, Ian has one MMF threesome (Ian/Jeremy/Allison) while Lena has a FFM threesome (Lena/Louise/Jeremy). I think there's also FFF with Ivy/Lena/Holly? Not sure, because my Lena is prevented from pairing with Holly due to being in relationship with Ian.

Ian seems to have multiple soft "bad ends" when the girls figure out he's not monogamous, Lena has non so far.
Both Ian and Lena can't have certain relationships if they've formed relationships which are incompatible. These aren't "bad end because you aren't monogamous".

The cuck path is confirmed to exist, the other is speculation at best and "it could happen tho!"
Until Chapter 10 the cuck path was also at best a speculation "it could happen tho!"
 

lipe2410

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Alright, than how many MFF threesomes is Ian in compared to the MMF threesomes lena is in?
Ian seems to have multiple soft "bad ends" when the girls figure out he's not monogamous
Seems like you have zero idea about this game.
Threesomes only started in last chapter for real to both MCs and right now is 1 threesome for each one. And in the prologue of the next chapter Lena clearly suggest they can try a threesome to fulfill Ian's fantasy to have sex with two girls. So a FFM threesome to Ian is aready on the way.

And "bad ends" when "girls figure out he is not monagamous" is literally only Lena breakin up with him if he fuck Holly, someone she really like and she really care about. That's the only situation. Aside that, she can know he is fucking other girls (Like Alison or Cherry) and she will keep date him.

Is entirely possible make a playthrough as Ian where he fucks five different girls in a regular basis - Cherry, Emma, Lena, Minerva and Cindy - until he decide get in a serious relationship with Lena (or keep things casual with her and all others). As for Lena, the max of guys she can fuck in one playthrought if i'm not mistaken is also 5 - Robert, Mike, Ian, Jeremy and Axel - and if she did Jeremy she is blocked to start a serious relationship with Ian. And sometimes Lena has to choose between see Ian, Mike or Robert so even if she is fucking with all them, players can't get all the scenes with them together in the same playthrough.

In terms of sexual content, Ian and Lena are fairly equal. Both can have plenty of sex with different people in one playthrough. Lena can have more sex but only because we can play her as a bissexual girl, so she can have sex with both men and women while Ian is 100% straight, and i'm pretty sure player prefer him that way. Both can cheat on each other as soon they become a couple. And there is zero bad consequences for both for now

There is also a path where Ian can be really dominant towards Lena (and she love it), which is tracked and increased by the ian_dom_lena variable. If this will lead to cuckquean path or something similar we will wait and see, but considering that Lena is already willing to set up a threesome with her new boyfriend and very possible another girl, it doesn't see to far-fetched to me. Just doesn't expect a harem to Ian. This isn't and will never be a safe harem journey
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Alright, than how many MFF threesomes is Ian in compared to the MMF threesomes lena is in?
Ian seems to have multiple soft "bad ends" when the girls figure out he's not monogamous, Lena has non so far.
The cuck path is confirmed to exist, the other is speculation at best and "it could happen tho!"

My point that the game treats Ian differently to Lena still holds ground.
Bro, just play the game instead of embarrassing yourself like this.
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Are you certain? Last time I checked I got locked out of fucking Emma if I accepted the "serious relationship" with Lena :/ which was a bummer, was planning to keep nailing her behind Lena's back. Has this been fixed? :D
No, some routes just lock out others. Maybe Emma is incompatible with GF Lena route.
 

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Are you certain? Last time I checked I got locked out of fucking Emma if I accepted the "serious relationship" with Lena :/ which was a bummer, was planning to keep nailing her behind Lena's back. Has this been fixed? :D
I was talking about Cindy. Ian can fuck her right after ask Lena if she wants a relationship. And they can keep their affair behind Lena's and Wade's back
 

Blumenkalte

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Guys, i don't understand, i started dating Ian, broke up with Louise an yet after Stan tells that rent is rise up, the scene between Lena and Louise occur, it's should be this way?
 

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Guys, i don't understand, i started dating Ian, broke up with Louise an yet after Stan tells that rent is rise up, the scene between Lena and Louise occur, it's should be this way?
Which scene between Lena and Louise do you mean? As in, which chapter etc.
 

ffive

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In chapter 10, right after Stan tells that landlord rise up the rent
Peeking in the code, it seems that if you side with Stan in this discussion i.e. pay new rent in full, afterwards Lena will go to Louise and potentially have sex with her even if Louise was rejected:
Python:
    ## end discussion (sided w/stan)
    else:
        if lena_reject_louise:
            "It seemed Louise couldn't help but create drama out of everything... I was starting to get tired of it."
        # end day
        if ian_lena_dating and v10_lena_mad != "stalkfap" and v10_lena_mad != "sex":
# ...
            jump v10lenasaturday
        # go to work
        else:
#...
            jump v10lenafridaywork
Given the comments and comparing it with the flow in the other branch, the one where Lena sides with Louise, i'd guess this is a bug and unintended behavior.
PilotLara perhaps it's worth checking (if it wasn't already fixed in 10.4) -- the second if in the quoted bit should probably be elif so that the sex scene doesn't trigger if Lena has rejected/dumped Louise previously?
 
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Peeking in the code, it seems that if you side with Stan in this discussion i.e. pay new rent in full, afterwards Lena will go to Louise and potentially have sex with her even if Louise was rejected:
Python:
    ## end discussion (sided w/stan)
    else:
        if lena_reject_louise:
            "It seemed Louise couldn't help but create drama out of everything... I was starting to get tired of it."
        # end day
        if ian_lena_dating and v10_lena_mad != "stalkfap" and v10_lena_mad != "sex":
# ...
            jump v10lenasaturday
        # go to work
        else:
#...
            jump v10lenafridaywork
Given the comments and comparing it with the flow in the other branch, the one where Lena sides with Louise, i'd guess this is a bug and unintended behavior.
PilotLara perhaps it's worth checking (if it wasn't already fixed in 10.4) -- the second if in the quoted bit should probably be elif so that the sex scene doesn't trigger if Lena has rejected/dumped Louise previously?
Hey man, does Ian always parry Axel's shove, or are there requirements for it?

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ffive

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Hey man, does Ian always parry Axel's shove, or are there requirements for it?
The outcome is based on Ian's physical and combat prowess:
Python:
                if jiujitsu > 3 or kickboxing > 4:
                    "He tried to push Ian away forcefully, but Ian deflected his hand, avoiding being shoved backward."
# ...
                else:
                    if ian_athletics > 4:
                        "He pushed Ian away forcefully with just one hand. He staggered backward."
# ...
                    else:
                        "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."
(Ian also has different reactions to it based on his ian_chad variable)
 

ffive

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Now this, I didn't know. It's really cool to see these minor details; really makes your choices truly matter.

Do you mind showing all the lines here?
Python:
            "Tell Axel to go away":
# ...
                x "What, now you're trying to impress her by playing the white knight?"
                if ian_chad > 3:
                    i "You don't listen, do you? I'm just saying what Lena already told you, in case you didn't get it the first time:"
                    i "Keep walking."
                    x "Listen tough guy... Are you looking for trouble?"
                    i "I'm not, but it seems you are."
                elif ian_chad > 1:
                    i "I'm not playing anything. I'm just saying what Lena already told you, since you don't seem to listen."
                    x "Yeah? And what did she say, exactly?"
                    i "She told you to get going."
                    x "Oh, and is that supposed to be a threat?"
                    i "I'm not looking for trouble... Not so sure that's the case for you too."
                else:
                    i "I'm not. But she just asked you to leave her alone, so..."
                    x "So what? You think you could make me?"
                    i "Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight here. I'm just asking you to do what Lena told you."
                    x "Oh, is that supposed to be a threat?"
                    i "What? No..."
# ...
                if jiujitsu > 3 or kickboxing > 4:
# ...
                else:
# ...
                    if ian_chad > 3:
                        i "Touch me again and I'll beat the shit out of you."
                    elif ian_chad > 2:
                        i "What the fuck, dude?! You want to start a fight?"
                    else:
                        i "What's your problem?! Are you trying to start a fight?"
(there's some more in other branches but let's keep at least some content unspoiled :sneaky:
 
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