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JohnnyKiss

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I'd imagine Eva has planned for Jeremy to be a full relationship option for Lena, or at least so much of (bbc) infatuation that once she samples it she's no longer interested in serious relationship with anyone else, Ian included. If that's the case we'll probably see some developments in next chapter(s).
Oh yeah, absolutely. I trust Eva knows better than me the things she has planned for Lena and Jeremy. It's just frustrated not to have those options yet.

As for what I think she has planned for the two, I doubt a full relationship between Lena and Jeremy will be a thing in a near future. It most likely will be but in the distant future.

As for the next Chapter, I'm pretty sure Eva is going for the "Bull Route" for Jeremy. So far, his every interaction with Ian revolves around the women he fucks and sending Ian pictures and videos of him doing so while Ian jerks of to, not to mention Lena can also jerk off Ian while talking about other "Dicks" she had. And we now know there is a planned "Cuck Route" for Ian that should have a big play in Chapter 11, according to one of the weekly updates.
 

mommysboiii

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This would make sense if not for the fact that we already had Chapter 10 come out and nothing in it would complicate the story at all. Lena interacts with Jeremy twice, one in the Blazer Club where she literally can cheat on Ian with 2 different guys and another when she has threesome with him and Allison. I don't see how this would complicate stuff too much.

I'd personally make the clauses to be "Lena and Louis Relationship > 5" and "Jeremy and Ian Relationship <5" for it to happen. That way, if Jeremy and Ian aren't the best of friends, Jeremy could go for his Girlfriend and If Louis and Lena are good enough friends then she would feel comfortable to ask her about it. Of course, this is assuming Lena already cheated on Ian with Axel and Mike and has BBC obsession.
especilly that most things are already in game for example holly corruption , holly dress different ivy pseudos holly and gives marks number , holly gives a blowjob to mark , holly talking about stranger fantasy and so on...already in game why we cant do this if in a relationship with ian if I wanna do a loser ian run??? I mean its already in game and cant be that complcated to make it OPTIONAL for people like me without hurting our strong ALPHA GUY playerbase :) I really hope that at least the alison underperfromance has slow burn corruption progression and consequences in the future on ians mind and alison hornyness and change
 
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As for the next Chapter, I'm pretty sure Eva is going for the "Bull Route" for Jeremy. So far, his every interaction with Ian revolves around the women he fucks and sending Ian pictures and videos of him doing so while Ian jerks of to, not to mention Lena can also jerk off Ian while talking about other "Dicks" she had. And we now know there is a planned "Cuck Route" for Ian that should have a big play in Chapter 11, according to one of the weekly updates.
Hmm my Ian and Jeremy just have friendly talks about relationship stuff happening in their respective lives, without sharing any pictures. So that's be something of a waste for me, since i'd likely see none of it. But for these on "cuck route" it makes sense as an addition, yeah.
 
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Whats the deal with rich old guy? Whats his story? Why does suddenly gillen being introduced late?
 

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Holly is the obvious choice for a love interest if you are going with a prosperous lifestyle where you will build a traditional family unit. I could see having two kids, and little farm house with a white picket fence with her, and some horses and a dog. Going to church with her every Sunday, and being happily married for 50 years.

If you want to have a "Happy Hobo" lifestyle then Emma is the clear winner. She is down for anal on a first date, identifies as a cockaroach, hates guys like seymour and is a bit of a druggy / hippie. Life wouldn't be so bad if you were living in a van down by the river if you shared it with Emma.
 

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he the main antagonist; he is seeking to get lena and profit on a redevelopment project and dont care what he have to do to get what he wants, hurt, exploit, and manipulate; she the drama (one of many)
 
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Holly is the obvious choice for a love interest if you are going with a prosperous lifestyle where you will build a traditional family unit. I could see having two kids, and little farm house with a white picket fence with her, and some horses and a dog. Going to church with her every Sunday, and being happily married for 50 years.

If you want to have a "Happy Hobo" lifestyle then Emma is the clear winner. She is down for anal on a first date, identifies as a cockaroach, hates guys like seymour and is a bit of a druggy / hippie. Life wouldn't be so bad if you were living in a van down by the river if you shared it with Emma.
Go ahead, I'd like to hear your opinion. What about Alison, Cindy, Lena, Ivy and others?

 
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Don't want a huge back-and-forth, so just replying to this portion. Of course it's more plausible and natural. A lot more. Couples into that kink/lifestyle are real and in long-term permanent relationships with each other, whether living together or married. With few if any exceptions, those long-term partners still have sex with each other and have some sort of mutual respect and bond, usually just playing out a kink or fantasy together for spice. Without that sort of connection and genuine need for each other beyond a kink, the relationship would fall apart very quickly. The whole cruel-mistress wife/never-inside husband or findom/paypig thing is the stuff of S&M fantasies alone, or some simp paying some camwhore online for private humiliation sessions. A couple could play-act it occasionally, but few if any would/could carry that sort of thing permanently in a real long-term relationship. Everything else is the stuff of exaggerated, poorly written erotica.

You're basically just speaking with authority on something you have no familiarity with, assuming your gut feeling is as good as any.
I hear you and agree with you full-heartedly. When Lena started denying Ian sex I had a Vietnam flashback of Ashley cucking Eric which I couldn't stand, but at least in that game it sort of made sense.

Eric stayed an absolute wimp and valued his self-centered desire to be a hero more than his relationship with Ash. Everybody in his life called that decision stupid, including Arthur and his sister. So cucking him felt like some sort of cruel punishment meant to teach him a lesson. "Oh, so you want to leave me all alone and ignore my needs trying to do some dumb shit, well, have it your way. I know some people who value me more than my own so called boyfriend". And in the pornstar route she logically dumps him because that kind of wimp can't really give her anything anymore.

Ian on the other hand, while may still struggle with self-esteem after his heartbreak with Gillian (even if he has more than enough distractions), is nowhere near being an Eric / Robert / Perry-level wimp (even though occasionally Eva tries to write him this way to give Lena more agency). He's an ambitious young man with a good heart and enough self-confidence thanks to his gym training, his creative pursuits, and even satisfying Lena's submissive needs (making her choke on his cock or fucking her silly). That kind of Ian is not someone who would just take this disrespect and not say anything (even if subconsciously it might turn him on for some mysterious reason). If my girlfriend suddenly decided to talk to me like this, I'd seriously consider that maybe I should dump her before she completely reveals her inner Amber Heard. Or at least have a serious talk with her about what the fuck just happened. It's jarring that Ian never brought this up and never had an agency to nope the hell out of it and dodge the bullet. Sharing kink is hot, being reduced to a sexless voyeur is not.

Don't know if it will change anything, but I shared this concern with Eva, and I hope the cuck / sharing route will at least be a bit more nuanced in the future and won't automatically turn into an abusive relationship where Ian loses his protagonist agency all because he couldn't stop himself from being too curious at the moment of vulnerability which Lena ended up exploiting selfishly.


P.S. Regarding the walkthrough, I've seen several comments asking about it. I'm working on it, but in a relaxed pace to prevent another burnout so don't ask for a release window. After all that's happened it's basically once again become a hobby that barely pays so I prefer to mix it up and do something more satisfying when I'm not in the writing mood. That said, I appreciate that there's demand, but in the meantime kudos to ffive for taking up the duty of helping the folks here.

P.P.S, still have over 40 pages of discussion to catch up on, so unlikely to respond to fresh messages (can necro old discussions that resonate with me just like this one). Send DMs if you have urgent questions.
 
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