VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[rj677]

Eva's train of thought
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Fixed it.

Look, I get what both of you are saying... We all know why Louise is the "worst female character" and why it would become the "most uninteresting, uncompelling, boardline grounds for war criminal 3some": Louises personality and how she was written fucking sucks... Shes a jealous lesbian who bitches moans and sulks when something doesnt go well and she even might be described as bit crazy. WE GET IT.

However, seeing as Ian doesnt know any of those problems that Louise has, would he or anyone that doesnt know her shity personality refuse a 3some with THIS:


Shes HOT and a perfect submissive . 2 attributes I would definitely want on a 3some

 

[dengl]

Look, I get what both of you are saying... We all know why Louise is the "worst female character" and why it would become the "most uninteresting, uncompelling, boardline grounds for war criminal 3some": Louises personality and how she was written fucking sucks... Shes a jealous lesbian who bitches moans and sulks when something doesnt go well and she even might be described as bit crazy. WE GET IT.

However, seeing as Ian doesnt know any of those problems that Louise has, would he or anyone that doesnt know her shity personality refuse a 3some with THIS:

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Shes HOT and a perfect submissive . 2 attributes I would definitely want on a 3some

Uninteresting, uncompelling? Sorry couldn't understand any of it because who on earth bother what personality does a fuck toy had. The threesome was simply Lena serves Ian some extra fun by bringing in her fuck toy to play with

 

[Xupuzulla]

Louise is so hot,sad that shes such a inmature bully.
She fucked Ian before Ivy through,at least she has that going for her.

 

[Socrambus]

In my experience the Holly thing is happening entirely on Lena's side if Ian and Holly didn't get together, and Ian only ever shows interest in it (and Holly) if he's picked Holly over Lena. So it'd be pretty jarring for Ian to suddenly start talking about fucking Holly when they've never interacted as anything more than casual friends per player's choice. But i guess we'll see.

I meant in broad sense, not Holly particularly. But now that you mentioned, it's kind of weird that all the ian_go_holly stuff stops if you don't go with her to the book fair. I mean, realistically, a girl like Holly interested in Ian wouldn't stop just because he can't go with her because it coincides with his friend's birthday. But in game, you're right.

Don't do it! Don't give them ideas!
We're already pretty bummed on Cindy and Holly being exclusively on different paths.

The Cindy or Holly thing always looked arbitrary to me. I mean, Cindy and Holly have almost no interactions at all, it would have made more sense to split Cindy and Alison or Cindy and Emma if you want to simplify future number of variables to take into account writing scenes.

The only meaning I can think of is establishing Ian/Cindy as a path of sacrifice. You have first to sacrifice possible advancement in your writing dream (because going with Holly does make sense even if you are not romantically interested in her at all) and it would also mean in the future sacrificing your frienships with the group.

These two are the ones i really want,it sucks EK pretty much forces Lena to have a bad interaction with Cindy in the epilogue

Tbh their mutual dislike is one of the reasons that would make that threesome extra hot. A chad Ian able to get both of them to endure the presence of the other in order to please him and them competing for his attention... that's like the ultimate chad achievement.

Well, after Eva started with THE LEAST realistic 3some of them all in the IanxLenaxLouise when Louise can be in it even on a playtrough where Lena chooses Ivy over her every time, Lena isnt interested in doing some lesbomancy with Louise (Im replaying The Witcher games ), Louise gets soaking wet after just 2 interactions with Ian AND shes still in a relationship with Jeremy...

So yeah, EVERY 3some is on the table right now... Even IanxLenaxGillian is possible after that stupid ass Louise 3some . Hell, even a IanxNatxJess is possible after that one since they would both still have more relationship with Ian going in to that 3some .

I don't think is the least realistic 3some. Louise is convenient as her flatmate and as someone she already had sex with or another 3some with Jeremy. It's also pretty clear that Lena doesn't see her as a threat that could steal Ian or Mike from her. Ivy would be the other obvious option for Lena and I can see why she would see her as a more problematic choice.

It's true that Louise's reactions to Ian seem forced because of their very limited interactions. Sometimes the game works better for me if I assume some off-screen interactions between the characters. Plenty of time is skipped in game.

 

[Skylark21]

Is it possible for Lena to hook up with Mark who's already hooking up with Holly?

 

[| Vee |]

Is it possible for Lena to hook up with Mark who's already hooking up with Holly?

iirc she have to be on drugs or lust high enough (7 or 8 I think, can't say surely as I didn't play this path) BUT you can check walkthrough conditions on Ivy's birthday there you have to involve with Mark on Ivy's birthday (iirc) if you want future scenes with Mark.

 

[fatpussy123]

Is it possible for Lena to hook up with Mark who's already hooking up with Holly?

Yes, she pushes Holly to pursue him, then tells her not to at the club in chapter 10, blows him, then Holly goes on a date with him while pushed by Lena in chapter 11, then chapter 11 epilogue Lena can fuck him

 

[rayso12]

please upload the gallery file

 

[Vamhite]

Yes, she pushes Holly to pursue him, then tells her not to at the club in chapter 10, blows him, then Holly goes on a date with him while pushed by Lena in chapter 11, then chapter 11 epilogue Lena can fuck him

But in my playthrough, if I pushes Holly to go for him, I can't stop them from leaving the club in Chapter 10. Is there a way around it?

 

[megamanx06]

The Cindy or Holly thing always looked arbitrary to me. I mean, Cindy and Holly have almost no interactions at all, it would have made more sense to split Cindy and Alison or Cindy and Emma if you want to simplify future number of variables to take into account writing scenes.

The only meaning I can think of is establishing Ian/Cindy as a path of sacrifice. You have first to sacrifice possible advancement in your writing dream (because going with Holly does make sense even if you are not romantically interested in her at all) and it would also mean in the future sacrificing your frienships with the group.

Yeah it always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Like, Holly asks Ian to go with her pretty much the day before, when he already potentially had plans with all his friends (not even just Cindy). And if he says no because of that, Holly assumes that means Ian is completely uninterested in her and never asks him again, and Ian acts like he was never interested in her either.

 

[Minttymint]

Okay its my first time doing a Louise route


what the hell is that forehead

 

[JoJoPool]

Okay its my first time doing a Louise route
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what the hell is that forehead

LOL I was hoping Eva would fix it when she did the remaster but NOPE ! She must've forgotten about it.

 

[GodOfAll]

Okay its my first time doing a Louise route
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what the hell is that forehead

mind got swoll from thinking about all the ways she can fuck up every possible relationship up she comes across.

 

[Socrambus]

Yeah it always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Like, Holly asks Ian to go with her pretty much the day before, when he already potentially had plans with all his friends (not even just Cindy). And if he says no because of that, Holly assumes that means Ian is completely uninterested in her and never asks him again, and Ian acts like he was never interested in her either.

It's also weird that if you choose to go to the book fair it seems to close Cindy path forever. It's not as weird for Cindy's personality as it's for Holly's but a "I can't go because of an unique work opportunity" should be perfectly acceptable for anyone including Cindy. I mean, Ian could always tell her that he'll take her to the damn place any other day. It would make more sense for Cindy to get angry if it were with Alison's holiday trip, "I can't go because I am going to spend the whole weekend fucking another girl" is a less valid excuse.

 

[| Vee |]

It's also weird that if you choose to go to the book fair it seems to close Cindy path forever. It's not as weird for Cindy's personality as it's for Holly's but a "I can't go because of an unique work opportunity" should be perfectly acceptable for anyone including Cindy. I mean, Ian could always tell her that he'll take her to the damn place any other day. It would make more sense for Cindy to get angry if it were with Alison's holiday trip, "I can't go because I am going to spend the whole weekend fucking another girl" is a less valid excuse.

It's in Cindy's personality to be spiteful if you give priority to any other girl over her and makes sense but Holly thing I completely agree is not handled well by EK. It's same with Alison if you don't go to her home for the supposed "talk about Gillian(Chameleon) to lessen your burden" you get massive hit on relationship points and That is Alison being a dumb bitch.

 

[yuvce]

It's not as weird for Cindy's personality as it's for Holly's but a "I can't go because of an unique work opportunity" should be perfectly acceptable for anyone including Cindy.

It's Cindy we're talking about.... Cindy. The self-righteous and spoiled brat. The unreasonable bitch. The whore who bends over for dickwad Axel. Such behaviour is in character for her ilk.

 

[| Vee |]

It's Cindy we're talking about.... Cindy. The self-righteous and spoiled brat. The unreasonable bitch. The whore who bends over for dickwad Axel. Such behaviour is in character for her ilk.

Not in all path/s BUT In some path/s:

If in all than sadly it's EK just being mean and using characters just for fetish purpose and not story purpose bcz a character should always behave differently in different paths according to story for/in major plots.

 

[Socrambus]

It's Cindy we're talking about.... Cindy. The self-righteous and spoiled brat. The unreasonable bitch. The whore who bends over for dickwad Axel. Such behaviour is in character for her ilk.

No, it's just bad writing because for whatever reason Eva wanted to force a split between Cindy and Holly paths. You can see this in Cindy's surprised reaction to you choosing to go to Wade's birthday instead of to the book fair when she learns of it:

i "I even rejected an invitation to go to a book fair to be here tonight..."
$ fcindy = "blush"
c "You did that...? Your writing career is what you're most passionate about."
i "It is... But that doesn't mean that's the only thing I'm passionate about."

 

[| Vee |]

No, it's just bad writing because for whatever reason Eva wanted to force a split between Cindy and Holly paths. You can see this in Cindy's surprised reaction to you choosing to go to Wade's birthday instead of to the book fair when she learns of it:

i "I even rejected an invitation to go to a book fair to be here tonight..."
$ fcindy = "blush"
c "You did that...? Your writing career is what you're most passionate about."
i "It is... But that doesn't mean that's the only thing I'm passionate about."

That it's handled poorly. Makes me wonder is EK moving story just on whim? considering how ORS is moving with all

1. Stan's rework
2. Robert ton of content
3. Every character who appears in top in polls getting content (Latest Marcel example)
4. Story going down the hill
5. Character management
6. Reskinning scenes A.K.A no Versatility hence, Laziness
7. Bringing ton of characters from GGGB (IS this GGGB 2.0 or ORS)
8. Cameo character's getting full fledged sex scenes plus reserved places in story when original story characters are sidelined
9. Original story characters getting shit in terms of content

And which direction the story is progressing? Heck the question should be WHAT IS THE STORY AT THIS POINT? SMH!

Things are all over the place!
#HopeCH12

 

[Socrambus]

That it's handled poorly. Makes me wonder is EK moving story just on whim? considering how ORS is moving with all

1. Stan's rework
2. Robert ton of content
3. Every character who appears in top in polls getting content (Latest Marcel example)
4. Story going down the hill
5. Character management
6. Reskinning scenes A.K.A no Versatility hence, Laziness
7. Bringing ton of characters from GGGB (IS this GGGB 2.0 or ORS)
8. Cameo character's getting full fledged sex scenes plus reserved places in story when original story characters are sidelined
9. Original story characters getting shit in terms of content

And which direction the story is progressing? Heck the question should be WHAT IS THE STORY AT THIS POINT? SMH!

Things are all over the place!
#HopeCH12

I don't feel as negative as you do about the game. It's one thing plain bad writing when you make characters act OOC and even totally opposite to their reaction to the same thing like in Cindy's case because you want to force the story to go in a certain way. And it's another thing a dev making choices for the story or the development that you as a player disagree with or strongly dislike and I somewhat agree with some of your points:

1. I didn't play the game before Stan's rework. It's difficult to imagine he was even worse, but plenty of people seem to enjoy the character now. But it really doesn't impact my enjoyment of the game.
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3. Your point 2 and 3 are kind of contradictory. You don't like popularity in polls to be a factor but you also don't like that an unpopular character like Robert gets plenty of content despite that. I think the issue is that we don't like Robert or Marcel but we wouldn't complain if Ivy or Cindy (two other popular characters) got more content. It seems more a matter of personal taste on our side.
4. Story going down the hill feels too strong to me. I think that the last couple of chapters are certainly not the best ones but I also think that it's maybe too soon to tell yet, let's wait to see how things go in the next two chapters.
5. Character management has room to improve, but IMO is still better that what most games in this site manage to do.
6. I don't like using the word "lazyness" when talking about other dev's work. Increasement on scene recycling is a fact, but I simply don't know enough to call Eva lazy.
7. 
   
8. Point 7 and 8, again, a matter of personal taste. I agree with you, but it's called fanservice for a reason, plenty of the fanbase love those characters coming back.
9. I disagree with that.