VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[RC-1138 Boss]

She also said a lot of the audience recognize themselves in Stan because of his popularity

Damn now that is a third degree burn.

 

[noturiah]

Actually the pretentiousness is one of the elements about Seymour that turns me off of him. That and the unexplained obsession with Lena, of course.

He spouts blog-level brain-farts in an attempt to seem cultured and suave and all his points are very black/white in terms of political outlook. If he was more self-aware, even if ultimately still selfish, and didn't present highschool-level philosophy as a basis for his world-view, I'd be more curious to see what his route contained. To add to what he presents as, his attention towards Lena makes zero sense if you play negatively towards him. He comes off as extremely cartoonish. His ultimate deal is so limiting towards Lena and what she can do, that I don't even feel it's all that attractive even when you play her as a more selfish character.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but my take on Seymour is that he's not meant to be cultured or particularly intelligent. I take him as an example of someone who, having achieved a certain level of success and wealth, decides that means he must always have been smart and sophisticated and that he deserves everything he wants. So he starts spouting an easy, surface-level ideology which may sound fancy or literate. But underneath it's all a matter of might makes right and he with the most toys wins. And for Seymour "the most toys" seems to include people, which I would argue is potentially very threatening. He does come off as cartoonish. But his wealth and his ego are, unfortunately, all too real. If he were only obsessed with Lena, that would be creepy. But he seems to be growing as interested in Ian as well, just in a less sexual way. And even Axel, who has plenty of ego and a controlling personality, basically becomes a yes-man in front of Seymour.

 

[Socrambus]

Actually the pretentiousness is one of the elements about Seymour that turns me off of him. That and the unexplained obsession with Lena, of course.

He spouts blog-level brain-farts in an attempt to seem cultured and suave and all his points are very black/white in terms of political outlook. If he was more self-aware, even if ultimately still selfish, and didn't present highschool-level philosophy as a basis for his world-view, I'd be more curious to see what his route contained. To add to what he presents as, his attention towards Lena makes zero sense if you play negatively towards him. He comes off as extremely cartoonish. His ultimate deal is so limiting towards Lena and what she can do, that I don't even feel it's all that attractive even when you play her as a more selfish character.

I said it mostly as a joke, but you're right, she tried, but the execution is lacklustre. For me the main issue with his behaviour is him blocking Lena from all her other sources of income no matter how Lena behaves toward him. It would be a really unsubtle anc inelegant move for the general feeling Eva's trying to give to the character in any case, but it's specially crazy when Seymour does that to a Lena interested in working with him.

Although, I'm not sure if a better written Seymour would have made much of a difference on his popularity. He lost against Marcel before Marcel even got any scene. He literally lost against an almost blank slate who might have a BBC.

She also said a lot of the audience recognize themselves in Stan because of his popularity

It sounds about right. I wouldn't be surprised that even part of the audience hating Stan is also because they partly recognize themselves in him and dislike being confronted against the parts of themselves they hate. A bit like all the hate Shinji (from Evangelion) has always received from the audience.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Pretty much, you took the words from my mouth.

Also Eva Kiss should have started way sooner with him if she wanted people to "fall in love" with his corruption game. The fact that his route is way late when compared to the other (boring) male love interests for Lena likely helped kill any hype the dev wanted to pass to the players.

Yes,is the glacial pace what makes Seymour so boring,doenst help that hes a rich douche who smells his own farts,really hard to like him,the only good about him is he pays Lena good money.

 

[Xupuzulla]

She also said a lot of the audience recognize themselves in Stan because of his popularity

EK hates Stan,at this point is not even a secret anymore.
"I have problems writing him,why you dont like Seymour instead waaaaah"meanwhile she gives tons of content to Robert,the only character hated by everyone.
EK has some weird priorities...

 

[Leongen43]

Because it seems that Seymour is the man who feeds the city and no one goes against him, especially those who have a career and want to see it progress, because what they know, they know that he can help them or he can end their work and projects. in the future, so if Lena accepts, she has to know that the only way to leave him without negative consequences is if he wants to and perhaps it will be when Lena seems like a boring woman to him when he has already satisfied his needs.

 

[0tt0von]

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but my take on Seymour is that he's not meant to be cultured or particularly intelligent. I take him as an example of someone who, having achieved a certain level of success and wealth, decides that means he must always have been smart and sophisticated and that he deserves everything he wants. So he starts spouting an easy, surface-level ideology which may sound fancy or literate. But underneath it's all a matter of might makes right and he with the most toys wins. And for Seymour "the most toys" seems to include people, which I would argue is potentially very threatening. He does come off as cartoonish. But his wealth and his ego are, unfortunately, all too real. If he were only obsessed with Lena, that would be creepy. But he seems to be growing as interested in Ian as well, just in a less sexual way. And even Axel, who has plenty of ego and a controlling personality, basically becomes a yes-man in front of Seymour.

Or say a guy who was born wealthy and thinks he hit a home run. Plenty of real world examples of that cough... elon musk... cough.

 

[GokutheG]

Because it seems that Seymour is the man who feeds the city and no one goes against him, especially those who have a career and want to see it progress, because what they know, they know that he can help them or he can end their work and projects. in the future, so if Lena accepts, she has to know that the only way to leave him without negative consequences is if he wants to and perhaps it will be when Lena seems like a boring woman to him when he has already satisfied his needs.

That's why I'm a bit disappointed that the additional clause you are able to include in the contract only handles recorded materials.

 

[robrize2169]

would love the option for Ian to beat Seymour to a bloody pulp with the warning that he leave Lena the fuck alone or get his ass whooped again and again. Seymour is a vile piece of shit.rich asshats like this invading Lena's privacy, having access to her bank info, her family's info etc.. this guy needs a reality check..kickboxing to the head and put him into the ground style..damn i sure do get protective of my fav VN LI's

 

[Socrambus]

would love the option for Ian to beat Seymour to a bloody pulp with the warning that he leave Lena the fuck alone or get his ass whooped again and again. Seymour is a vile piece of shit.rich asshats like this invading Lena's privacy, having access to her bank info, her family's info etc.. this guy needs a reality check..kickboxing to the head and put him into the ground style..damn i sure do get protective of my fav VN LI's

Ian would get sued, go to jail and probably be raped everyday by BBC paid by Seymour. It's better if Ian kills Seymour, hides the corpse in Axel's closet and anonymously calls the police. Kill two birds with one stone.

 

[yuvce]

would love the option for Ian to beat Seymour to a bloody pulp with the warning that he leave Lena the fuck alone or get his ass whooped again and again. Seymour is a vile piece of shit.rich asshats like this invading Lena's privacy, having access to her bank info, her family's info etc.. this guy needs a reality check..kickboxing to the head and put him into the ground style..damn i sure do get protective of my fav VN LI's

Ian would get sued, go to jail and probably be raped everyday by BBC paid by Seymour. It's better if Ian kills Seymour, hides the corpse in Axel's closet and anonymously calls the police. Kill two birds with one stone.

I was gonna say Ian should work his way to the top, then once he has a successful career, find a way to ruin and discredit Seymour. But nah, Socrambus' idea is much better.

 

[Leongen43]

And if we make Ian brainwash Stan and make him believe that he has to protect his Angel Lena from the horrible demon Seymour, then we find the moment for him to kill Seymour and after he does, Stan is imprisoned and we We get Lena back without getting our hands dirty, isn't that a better plan?

 

[| Vee |]

Ian would get sued, go to jail and probably be raped everyday by BBC paid by Seymour. It's better if Ian kills Seymour, hides the corpse in Axel's closet and anonymously calls the police. Kill two birds with one stone.

*It's better if Ian kills Seymour, hides the corpse in Axel's closet car and anonymously calls the police. Kill two birds with one stone.*
With Robert being the driver and Stan being the last person who Seymour interacts with.

 

[| Vee |]

IIRC Seymour is kept at mild and there is no evil face when talking to Ian about Lena now. I would say you should also expect changes in Seymour's arc too. Now how that would come off as we'll see. EK might make him up a bit more soft. I can totally be wrong.

 

[SerHawkes]

I think EK is somewhat upset with her fans because they're not into the same kinks as her, and she now enjoys punishing them, so she's taken to pegging her fanbase in a figurative manner, and no amount of screaming telling her to stop or begging for lube will make her slow down.

Speaking as one of the Holy Church of the Virgin Ivy... Relatable.

 

[| Vee |]

Very sorry to hear that. If the Seymour-Lena-Dubai arc is abandoned then my interest in this game drops to near zero. Where can I vote? It might be that females are more drawn to this sort of thing than males.
Maybe the general populace misinterpreted the poll to indicate people they "like" as opposed to those they "enjoy".

Votes are done and dealt with. Might have to wait a few months/chapters.

 

[innocencelost]

HELP I'm stuck on a loop right about when lena is going to work as a bartender, it goes all the way back to her and holly's photoshoot

 

[ffive]

I think EK is somewhat upset with her fans because they're not into the same kinks as her, and she now enjoys punishing them, so she's taken to pegging her fanbase in a figurative manner, and no amount of screaming telling her to stop or begging for lube will make her slow down.

I've been saying for a long time EK simply enjoys denying Ivy fans, much like Lena enjoys denying Ian.

 

[ffive]

HELP I'm stuck on a loop right about when lena is going to work as a bartender, it goes all the way back to her and holly's photoshoot

IIRC this bug is triggered if you visit the boutique in Ch.11. Simply don't click on that option, choose the others and the game will advance automatically.

 

[SerHawkes]

I've been saying for a long time EK simply enjoys denying Ivy fans, much like Lena enjoys denying Ian.

And in all likelyhood, the moment I toss this game from my collection and quit playing, EK will then have Ian-Ivy hook up.

Knowing my luck...