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uncommonsence

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You seem to be under impression that a person who's had more than few sexual partners can't be possibly interested in books, or put up with a shitty job, or have good manners, or be devastated after discovering her most serious boyfriend to date has been cheating on her to the point where she'd shy away from getting close with anyone for a few months.

You're simply mistaken.
Not a person with more than a few partners. But a person with wild background, a person who lived her youth to the fullest, a person who rarely stayed at home, a person with a lot of stories she embarrassed to tell even to her cuck bf.

ok-ok.
First you were basically saying I'm wrong coz we know nothing except her break up with bf, now cause all that character inconsistency is perfectly normal in our anime world where everything is possible and that everything is possible at the very same moment. You can be witty, charismatic, slutty, sporty, good, evil, lawful chaotic neutral furry shemale barbarian mage as a head of thieves guild if you click
Screenshot from 2024-04-27 17-34-38.png at the start of your stupid life, or if you never met normal ppl and you unable to grasp the concept of time and that ppl don't change their personality every fucking day.

An infantry vet won't faint when shown a corpse, a free spirited and sexual woman won't make a shocked face when asked about sex life by a close friend [unless she is a porn star and that bullshit was written in the script].
Because you know EXPERIENCE... That weird thing determining the difference between shocking and normal.

"Well, anything was better than staying home... Hanging out and partying seemed like a good way to evade myself."
I bet she did it to read nerdy books, play acoustic guitar and write sophisticated poems in a more comfortable environment. Or I'm just overthinking and all that parties were actually DnD sessions. That would make at least some sense.

I also hope Lena is not into painting and that easel sits there just because she thinks her room is too big and needs more furniture to put her modeled works or clothes on.

You can leave this sort of wild speculations off the next time. Not only are they wrong, they contribute nothing.
That's one of two obvious conclusions from `we know nothing about the character`. You're either fappernotreader or you're just posting random bullshit to argue with random ppl.
My mistake was to choose the more polite one, which I sincerely admit. Fortunately there won't be next time coz u'll be permanently ignored.
 

rainnnnnn

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I seriously wished it hit him and gave him a concussion maybe that will teach him some manners...
The only achievement Perry has made is somehow making himself even worse than Robert and Stan
Imagine if he got a concussion and spent the entire update in the hospital leaving us the fuck alone in his summer house
 

rainnnnnn

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So if I’m going for a route that has Cherry and Emma,
Is there a way to avoid the convo where Ian and Wade tell Perry he should just go for Emma already?
There isn’t an option to tell him to stop pursuing her which is really dumb
 
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ffive

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My mistake was to choose the more polite one, which I sincerely admit. Fortunately there won't be next time coz u'll be permanently ignored.
Oh noes. Well, i won't bother with a more substantial reply then, so thanks for that.
 

fatpussy123

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I think it's added into the game files but not actually implemented into the game yet. I could be wrong but I tried many different paths and could not find this scene
No I got this scene on one of my playthroughs yesterday. I will check now for it.
 

fatpussy123

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I think it's added into the game files but not actually implemented into the game yet. I could be wrong but I tried many different paths and could not find this scene
So for some reason it doesnt show up on my Ian Holly romance path, they seem like theyre going to fuck and then the chapter just ends. But on my path where Holly is a casual fling for Ian (ian_holly_love = false) and holly has max change stat (holly_change = 5) the scene plays. Another note is that trinity is active, that means Holly and Ian discussed her kissing Lena earlier. Im not sure if it only plays if trinity is active or if there is no love involved.
 
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ExtremeLips

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So for some reason it doesnt show up on my Ian Holly romance path, they seem like theyre going to fuck and then the chapter just ends. But on my path where Holly is a casual fling for Ian (ian_holly_love = false) and holly has max change stat (holly_change = 5) the scene plays. Another note is that trinity is active, that means Holly and Ian discussed her kissing Lena earlier. Im not sure if it only plays if trinity is active or if there is no love involved.
I was very disappointed by that. Why would the romance path with Holly have less scenes with her? Well thanks I will try again to get it. Maybe that scene will be added with the next update for the romance path
 
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Socrambus

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Also I kind of just realized that Eva seems to have a strong opinion on how often women really love to feel dominated during sex even if they don't really give that vibe before the fact. It came to me with Emma's scenes but it is a predominant theme on Lena's story and something also shared by Cherry, Alison and Louise. So far only Holly and Cindy are not clearly showing this and in Holly's case it feels more related to her almost being a virgin, while it seems pretty likely that Axel will show us that Cindy also really likes it despite appearances.

Now, I'm not complaining as even if I'm not into BDSM myself is also a kink I share women being made submissive during sex by a strong man. But while I don't think that women loving it is that uncommon, I also don't think that all women love it (secretly or openly).
 

fatpussy123

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I was very disappointed by that. Why would the romance path with Holly have less scenes with her? Well thanks I will try again to get it. Maybe that scene will be added with the next update for the romance path
I think it is a bug because there is no reason for that scene not to play, the scene literally builds up to them having sex and then it just ends, hopefully gets added in the beta.

Also it might only happen if Holly kissed Lena while dating Ian. That is also a stat active on my playthrough.
 
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BlandChili

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Also I kind of just realized that Eva seems to have a strong opinion on how often women really love to feel dominated during sex even if they don't really give that vibe before the fact. It came to me with Emma's scenes but it is a predominant theme on Lena's story and something also shared by Cherry, Alison and Louise. So far only Holly and Cindy are not clearly showing this and in Holly's case it feels more related to her almost being a virgin, while it seems pretty likely that Axel will show us that Cindy also really likes it despite appearances.

Now, I'm not complaining as even if I'm not into BDSM myself is also a kink I share women being made submissive during sex by a strong man. But while I don't think that women loving it is that uncommon, I also don't think that all women love it (secretly or openly).
Women are people, people are varied, putting anyone into boxes generalising them as a whole is always wrong.

Now, when it comes to porn I would assume that it's a safe bet to go for portrayals of submissive women, regardless of how different we are it's just a fact that society has historically put emphasis on submissive traits for women and therefore if they do not express these traits it is often conflated with emasculation of the male partner.

Obviously that is silly on the surface of things, but I do not fault the makers of porn for following these norms. They are selling sex as a product and you make the product that the most people would want.

Ian can still be on the cuck route and Ivy seems like she would be a less submissive partner when we finally get around to her content with Ian, so the opposite isn't completely absent from the game.
 

BlandChili

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It seems even Ivy appreciates partner who is dominant with her, given how positively she reacts to him potentially winning their spar, and his demands during the texting session in this update.
That's true, though given the banter between them I was sort of hoping for more of a switch vibe with their pairing. It would be kinda nice if Ian had a partner where he could just have a "let her take charge" attitude without it defaulting to cuckoldry.
 

varpep

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I would like to report a bug. It is a continuation of one I have reported before. In my current playthrough I made Holly Ivy's pet and Lena joined in on the threesome in the bathroom with Ivy and Holly. Holly and Lena have a talk about it and agree it was not a problem even if Lena is dating Ian. Yet at the end of Chapter 11 Lena mentions a kiss she shared with Holly which never happened on this playthrough. This led me to believe I was on the trouple path even if Lena and Holly had not confessed their feelings for eachbother. And my suspicion was affirmed this update. Holly tells Ian that her and Lena shared a kiss even though this never happened. And Lena says the same thing in an inner monologue. I'm not against this outcome it's just that it does not feel like a natural progression of things due to the bringing up of events that did not happen. I would report this on patreon but I'm not a subscriber so I anyone can let Eva know, that would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Ian can still be on the cuck route and Ivy seems like she would be a less submissive partner when we finally get around to her content with Ian, so the opposite isn't completely absent from the game.
That prediction would be a reinforcement of the trope, not in defiance of it.

"they all love aggressive guys"/"the guys all love submissive girls" is perfectly consistent with a doormat Ian getting bossed around by Ivy (read - her not really attracted). There hasn't been a single instance in the game where that kind of behavior (deviation from the aggressive male = attract / submissive girl = attract) is encouraged or normalized.
That's true, though given the banter between them I was sort of hoping for more of a switch vibe with their pairing. It would be kinda nice if Ian had a partner where he could just have a "let her take charge" attitude without it defaulting to cuckoldry.
I totally agree and would love to see that, but I don't think this will ever be seen in games by this author.

IMHO it doesn't help that evakiss has strong 'bully','cheating','BBC' fetishes/interests; as any of those things can't really exist simultaneously next to stories where a girl is anything but a docile little creature and other guys aren't just positions on an alpha litmus test. A character like Axel or Marcel has little use in a universe where the women prefer gentle or submissive men.
 
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