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Nifferman

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No, Axel has 9 strenght.

10 Wen
9 Axel
8 Mike, Ivy, Jeremy
7 Seymour
6 Jessica, Cherry, Louise, Robert, Emma, Cindy, Ian
5 Billy, Ed, Minerva, Alison, Lena
4 Wade, Perry
3 Agnes, Holly
2 Molly
These states needs a revise. Cuz aint no way Alex is higher than Jeremy, and Alex why and how does Seymour, Ivy and Mike all have higher Str states than Ian?? Like isnt it canon that Ian has been doing Karate and Combat Sports since a young age ?
side not. how in the hell is Wade, Lena and Perry weaker than Cindy? Lol. Is Cindy secretly super strong?
 
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Gicoo

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we havent had a good cindy scene in a minute. What gives?
Ian fucked her just before the trip at the start of the chapter. He can hardly do it while they are both on different trips. Cindy still got content throughout the trip by instagram and sexting Ian.

These states needs a revise. Cuz aint no way Alex is higher than Jeremy, and Alex why and how does Seymour, Ivy and Mike all have higher Str states than Ian?? Like isnt it canon that Ian has been doing Karate and Combat Sports since a young age ?
side not. how in the hell is Wade, Lena and Perry weaker than Cindy? Lol. Is Cindy secretly super strong?
Axel being stronger than Jeremy isn't a stretch.
Ians stats are at the beginning of the game.
Athletics may also indicate the relative fitness. Wade and Perry laze around, drink and do drugs.
 
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Nifferman

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Ian fucked her just before the trip at the start of the chapter. He can hardly do it while they are both on different trips. Cindy still got content throughout the trip by instagram and sexting Ian.


Axel being stronger than Jeremy isn't a stretch.
Ians stats are at the beginning of the game.
Athletics may also indicate the relative fitness. Wade and Perry laze around, drink and do drugs.
That might be it. This might be an indication of there current fits rather than there physical strength
 

Shapesnatcher

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Cindy clearly works out, have you seen her abs bro. Wade and Perry laze around so much a girl outmatching them is not much of a stretch. Like Gicoo said it has to do with athleticism in general, not just lifting power. Honestly based on her statement of being able to take care of herself and the fact she works out, she might be stronger than she lets on, makes sense to some degree given her upbringing and looks that she would know some self-defence to some degree. Axel being stronger than Jeremy makes sense although Jeremy would win due to more technique, he would still struggle though. Can someone post them stat cards ?
 
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Gicoo

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That might be it. This might be an indication of there current fits rather than there physical strength
The stats aren't defined and a simplification of real life aspects. As videogames are prone to do.

Athletics can be strenght, fitness, knowledge of martial techniques, or the willingness to use your strenght
Wits can be emotional intelligence and creativity, but also just a larger sum of knowlegde.
Lust can be hornyness, but also sexual technique.
Charisma is also difficult to nail down.

I can defend and debate them, but they are too vague to get a satisfying answer. They are a good indicator in what the author believes their characters to be, but even that can be argued with death of the author or the fact that its been three years; Evas view of their characters may have changed and developed (or regressed).

Can someone post them stat cards ?
The link I posted should contain all card related posts Eva posted on patreon.
 
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These states needs a revise. Cuz aint no way Alex is higher than Jeremy, and Alex why and how does Seymour, Ivy and Mike all have higher Str states than Ian?? Like isnt it canon that Ian has been doing Karate and Combat Sports since a young age ?
side not. how in the hell is Wade, Lena and Perry weaker than Cindy? Lol. Is Cindy secretly super strong?
It's not overall strength but rather physicality and athleticism combined. The only one that doesn't sit right with me is Axel being higher than Jeremy, the rest seem right especially considering Ian and Lena's stats are base game stats or what they would be without our influence. Of course, I don't have the same stats in mind as Eva's character cards when playing but that's the beauty of it, we control our own imaginings of the game and Eva's storytelling leaves a lot of room for that.
 
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Socrambus

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Eva made some character cards years ago:
Thanks but I can't see them, maybe they are behind a paywall.

The stats aren't defined and a simplification of real life aspects. As videogames are prone to do.

Athletics can be strenght, fitness, knowledge of martial techniques, or the willingness to use your strenght
Wits can be emotional intelligence and creativity, but also just a larger sum of knowlegde.
Lust can be hornyness, but also sexual technique.
Charisma is also difficult to nail down.
I don't think Athletics should include specific knowledge of specific things like martial techniques or pole dancing, those should be handled separately like in Ian's case or justified by the character background like it would be in Mike and Jeremy's case. But unless we are told otherwise, Axel might be just a gym bro without any formal martial arts training. Athletics so far are used for everything even remotely related to physical activity: general coordination (from dancing to playing pool), general fitness, endurance, stamina, strenght, agility, quickness and flexibility. And in some cases, when they are related to sexual activity/tecnhiques there's an overlap with Lust where you can perform the action by either meeting the Athletics requirement or the Lust one, being Lust's requirement usually higher.
 

Ray_D

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I assume strength also considers your martial knowledge. Wen has less muscles than Axel, but knows best how to use them (innuendo incoming).
No, I believe that ian's technique and knowledge in those two areas comes from how high his jiujitsu and kickboxing stats are. The physical stats allow us to do things like combos and being able to lift the opponent. Wen has good muscles but seems to have focused more on developing his arms and legs.
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Ray_D

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I can imagine Wen being secretly Seymour's hitman and could side with Ian and Lena.
I remember Wen's lust stat is "???" and may just gangbang Lena with Ian or Seymour.
Nah, wen is too busy with his jiujitsu grindset to worry about such things. :KEK:
 
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Ray_D

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Maybe Mike was drunk or he wasn't expecting the sudden agression by Axel. It's difficult to establish conclusions after just one incident. IRL even if Axel has some reach and weight advantage, he shouldn't have any chance against a martial arts practicioner in a fair fight.
Well, mike is the dj, I don't think getting drunk is a good idea in his job. But we'll see how he performs when he fights ian in the tournament.:HideThePain:
 

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I went on a Ian/Cindy exclusive run and in the end, Perry gave Ian a sideglance when talking about assholes like Axel ruining Cindy/Wade and he lost one or two relationship points.

On this run, Ian didn't give a good excuse when he came home after fucking Cindy (he was with "a girl"), but later on distracted Perry as best as he could when Cindy sneaked out.

If Perry truly suspects Ian, certainly he would be madder at him?
 
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