VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Maviarab]

The biggest "Fantasy" of a game like this. In the real world Lena wouldn't look twice at a dude like Ian. Minerva would fuck whatever she could, and Holly would fuck him until she found out how hot she is.

My issue isn't Ian as a person. It's Its as a boring ass aspiring sci fi writer.

You ever see a movie about a writer, who goes through the 'Hero's Journey,' He writes and writes, and then needs to get better at writing, and then he stays home rather than going out and partying so he can write, and then there's a music montage to "eye of the tiger" while he writes and writes and then at the end he wrote the next harry potter and scores the hot chick....

NO. Because this is boring.

Got it...you'd rather he wrote historical period drama's.

 

[ffive]

You ever see a movie about a writer, who goes through the 'Hero's Journey,' He writes and writes, and then needs to get better at writing, and then he stays home rather than going out and partying so he can write, and then there's a music montage to "eye of the tiger" while he writes and writes and then at the end he wrote the next harry potter and scores the hot chick....

NO. Because this is boring.

 

[Ray_D]

The biggest "Fantasy" of a game like this. In the real world Lena wouldn't look twice at a dude like Ian. Minerva would fuck whatever she could, and Holly would fuck him until she found out how hot she is.

My issue isn't Ian as a person. It's Its as a boring ass aspiring sci fi writer.

You ever see a movie about a writer, who goes through the 'Hero's Journey,' He writes and writes, and then needs to get better at writing, and then he stays home rather than going out and partying so he can write, and then there's a music montage to "eye of the tiger" while he writes and writes and then at the end he wrote the next harry potter and scores the hot chick....

NO. Because this is boring.

 

[InkAndSaliva]

In the real world Lena wouldn't look twice at a dude like Ian.

This is just demonstrably not true, if you spent more than a minute interacting with real life women (or even paying attention to what women themselves say online) instead of men's perception of women and what they want. Firstly, even the most pathetic forms of in-game Ian are in shape, take care of their hygeine, and make an effort socially. Secondly, have you seen some of the guys beautiful women lower themselves to date?

 

[Andrea9999]

Secondly, have you seen some of the guys beautiful women lower themselves to date?

"Lowering" would be a very subjective judgement. A beautiful woman spending time with anyone who makes her happy is hardly lowering herself.

 

[BlandChili]

Ian is certainly not a man anyone would feel like they were "lowering" themselves for. He's (optionally) smart, humorous, ambitious and his body is toned and well kept. He's above average in all aspects. Maybe he's not spectacular, but very few people are, male or female.

 

[InkAndSaliva]

"Lowering" would be a very subjective judgement. A beautiful woman spending time with anyone who makes her happy is hardly lowering herself.

I mean, you're right, but it's a very general statement and was made with my tongue very firmly in my cheek.

Ian is certainly not a man anyone would feel like they were "lowering" themselves for.

I agree! My point was that Ian is significantly more conventionally attractive a romantic option than a lot of the men irl who date women like Lena.

 

[The Krogan Dude]

The biggest "Fantasy" of a game like this.

Fantasy ? Nah those games are just getting too realistic. I play those games to escape reality but even in AVN women keep falling for me all the time. Boring, 0/20.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The biggest "Fantasy" of a game like this. In the real world Lena wouldn't look twice at a dude like Ian. Minerva would fuck whatever she could, and Holly would fuck him until she found out how hot she is.

My issue isn't Ian as a person. It's Its as a boring ass aspiring sci fi writer.

You ever see a movie about a writer, who goes through the 'Hero's Journey,' He writes and writes, and then needs to get better at writing, and then he stays home rather than going out and partying so he can write, and then there's a music montage to "eye of the tiger" while he writes and writes and then at the end he wrote the next harry potter and scores the hot chick....

NO. Because this is boring.

Great stories where writer is the MC and goes the hero journey? Not movie, but a game: Alan Wake.
Stories about writers are not boring. And no one force you to do the writer path, you have the alternative in MMA. You have the default Ian at the beginning and play him as you want. So maybe it's not Ian being boring, maybe that's your choices.

The biggest "Fantasy" of a game like this. In the real world Lena wouldn't look twice at a dude like Ian.

Videogames are not about real world, it's about having fun in fictional environment.

And why didn't she look at him? Starter Lena is not a typical instathot, she is a completely normal girl looking for goals in life, with a broken heart and a baggage of problems. She doesn't have this "I'm a goddess" superiority complex. In addition, Lena is a creative soul by default and she and Ian can easily find a common language.

 

[Xupuzulla]

This game is not realistic for me,im not a hobbit like Ian

 

[regc1945]

It would be awesome see this on game heheheh.

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[Gicoo]

It would be awesome see this on game heheheh.

Shut up, Eva.

 

[Ray_D]

This game is not realistic for me,im not a hobbit like Ian

True man, it's not very realistic, after all you wouldn't have as many love affairs like Chad Ian.

 

[yuvce]

True man, it's not very realistic, after all you wouldn't have as many love affairs like Chad Ian.
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[Geigi]

True man, it's not very realistic, after all you wouldn't have as many love affairs like Chad Ian.
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[RobertKing]

This is just demonstrably not true, if you spent more than a minute interacting with real life women (or even paying attention to what women themselves say online) instead of men's perception of women and what they want. Firstly, even the most pathetic forms of in-game Ian are in shape, take care of their hygeine, and make an effort socially. Secondly, have you seen some of the guys beautiful women lower themselves to date?

SO... you agree? Lena is lowering herself for him?

 

[RobertKing]

Great stories where writer is the MC and goes the hero journey? Not movie, but a game: Alan Wake.
Stories about writers are not boring. And no one force you to do the writer path, you have the alternative in MMA. You have the default Ian at the beginning and play him as you want. So maybe it's not Ian being boring, maybe that's your choices.


Videogames are not about real world, it's about having fun in fictional environment.

And why didn't she look at him? Starter Lena is not a typical instathot, she is a completely normal girl looking for goals in life, with a broken heart and a baggage of problems. She doesn't have this "I'm a goddess" superiority complex. In addition, Lena is a creative soul by default and she and Ian can easily find a common language.

It's great Ian has the MMA option, and you know... lots of people here seem to enjoy his play through enough. But when asking why the Ian play through gets hate... it's because the majority of players (irrespective of if he's a likable guy) can't wait for the Lena play through, bc that play through has story and teeth to it.

Lena's life and choices for her path of morality are intrinsically tied to her modeling, and sexuality.

I would love if EK upped Ian's cred in MMA and got to him to a level of status. And EK could have made him still a nice guy in those other roles, just within a job that actually moves the story along rather than diverting from it.

Sure, Ian gets laid, but no player of this game will ever read his book. The entire trope of very specifically, his job, takes away from the game play instead of adding to it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

It's great Ian has the MMA option, and you know... lots of people here seem to enjoy his play through enough. But when asking why the Ian play through gets hate... it's because the majority of players (irrespective of if he's a likable guy) can't wait for the Lena play through, bc that play through has story and teeth to it.

Lena's life and choices for her path of morality are intrinsically tied to her modeling, and sexuality.

I would love if EK upped Ian's cred in MMA and got to him to a level of status. And EK could have made him still a nice guy in those other roles, just within a job that actually moves the story along rather than diverting from it.

Sure, Ian gets laid, but no player of this game will ever read his book. The entire trope of very specifically, his job, takes away from the game play instead of adding to it.

"Ian is hated" is a small but loud echo chamber here.
There is some imbalance between Ian and Lena, where Lena is in a more vulnerable and difficult position and she is faced with a choice - to go the shortcut, earning money with her body and making a deal with the devil (Seymour) to easily solve all her problems, or to go with more thorny path of art - because Lena, like Ian, is also a person of art - she sings and plays the guitar. For some reason, many forget this and don't see that Lena and Ian are similar. They just see Lena as another object of corruption like Ashley in GGGB - which is not surprising. Many people here came from GGGB and they have the same tastes.
I have both paths, where Ian is a writer and Ian is a fighter and I am interested to see both endings.

it's because the majority of players (irrespective of if he's a likable guy) can't wait for the Lena play through, bc that play through has story and teeth to it.

Right, can't wait Lena-Seymour pimp arc update (No).

 

[notstaged]

You ever see a movie about a writer, who goes through the 'Hero's Journey,' He writes and writes, and then needs to get better at writing, and then he stays home rather than going out and partying so he can write, and then there's a music montage to "eye of the tiger" while he writes and writes and then at the end he wrote the next harry potter and scores the hot chick....

Honestly, I don't remember Barton Fink, Jack Torrance and James Caan in Misery going through any kind of training montage.

 

[Jaekynk]

how do we feel about the emma romance in chapter 12? i like emma but i honestly didn't expect it at all.