VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Socrambus]

The problem with dating a really hot woman, is that everyone else thinks so as well. If you're in any way possessive, as Stan definitely is, it's gonna be a rollercoaster of emotions. To successfully date a woman like Lena, requires either supreme confidence or a very easygoing personality. Stan has neither of those.

I think is about trusting your partner, a girl doesn't have to be the hottest model in town to get multiple opportunities to cheat on you. Of course, sometimes your trust will be betrayed and you will be hurt. But what's the point of being in a relationship with someone you don't trust?.

Even Ian, as he begins, is not the typical guy you would associate with a girl like Lena. But unlike Stan, he already has the potential to bridge the gap between them, because he's working out at the gym (which is building his body confidence), socialising with his friends (some of whom are pretty outgoing and push Ian to go further on the social scene) and his determination to succeed as a writer, gives him a belief in himself, that Stan just totally lacks.

Stan could do all those things himself. He could lose weight and work out in the gym, to get a better body. He could buy more fashionable clothes, work on developing his social skills and building his confidence in general. But until Lena, pushes hard for him to do that, he just sits behind his computer screen, saying 'poor me' and how the world never gives him a fair shot. If you make the effort, there's usually someone out there for you. But if you don't, then most of the time unsurprisingly, there's nobody.

But it also requires you to have realistic expectations of who you could end up with. Because he spends most of his life in front of a computer screen, Stan fantasises that he could get the hot girl, and because she's not horrible to him, begins to believe that maybe she wants him too. Poor social skills, mean you often misinterpret people being nice to you, as evidence they like you in other ways. And occasionally maybe they do. But most of the time, they're just being nice to you. But you don't see that, because you're desperate for them to fancy you, as much as you 'think' you fancy them. And because you devote so much attention to pursuing a girl who'll never want you that way, you miss the one who would, if only you were paying attention elsewhere.

Holly is the obvious girlfriend for Stan. If he put as much effort into pursuing her, as he wastes in a forlorn effort to land Lena, he'd end up with a cute girlfriend, who just happens to have a hot future as a writer. Both of them are nerds, so they have tons in common. And unlike Lena, he'll never have to worry about what she might be getting up to, on those nude modelling shoots?

I'm not saying that you are wrong because your view is pretty common nowadays but I don't agree with dividing people in "leagues" or rankings based on how hot they are. If you are just looking to have sex then sure, the hotter the better. But people aplying the same criteria to partners in a serious relationship is probably one of the reasons for divorce rate being so high. Sex is important in a relationship but you are also going to spend a lot of time with the other person not having sex and that person is also going to age. Personal compatibility, morals and having similar views on what kind of life you want in the future are way more important than hotness.

Stan biggest problem is not being fat and ugly. His biggest problems are being a social retard, an incel and a shallow person that thinks he loves Lena without really knowing her just because she is hot and she didn't call the police on him for being a creep.

 

[varpep]

Ian has 3 models to flirt with,the whole "writing career" means nothing when you want to get your dick wet with the best option out there.

Oh Xuzu. You're just being facetious now. It's the same reason Ian would date best girl Alison over 3 fine pieces of ass

 

[varpep]

Geigi I saw. Why did your comment get deleted?

 

[fatpussy123]

Ian has 3 models to flirt with,the whole "writing career" means nothing when you want to get your dick wet with the best option out there.

Well that's why you as the player get to decide if Ian wants to get his dick wet or wants a loving relationship with someone he connects with. Besides the model thing doesn't really matter when every love interest is attractive, even the ones that aren't models like Alison.

 

[notstaged]

How characters react to grapples

It's a setup and a bit of foreshadowing. Both J-dog and Lolbert get their ass handed to them by grappling. The developer is clearly pro Khabib.

 

[Nifferman]

It's a setup and a bit of foreshadowing. Both J-dog and Lolbert get their ass handed to them by grappling. The developer is clearly pro Khabib.

Khabib uses Sambo and Ian's uses Jiujitsu. So, Ian style is closer to Charles and Gsp's than Khabib

 

[BGINaN]

nop shot people are comparing stan to holly LMFAO

 

[Zara Scarlet]

If Lena-Stan is so unrealistic how come Holly-Ian ever makes sense?
People in this thread always talk how Ian is this winner chad,why will he go for the geek when he has better options?
I agree with you about Holly-Stan btw.

Ian can be potentially different people. Essentially he's a nerd. But a nerd with a lot of drive, and he's also quite adaptable. And that means you can literally push him in any direction. Compare that with Stan, who is pretty much stuck in his ways, and you can't really change him significantly. He needs to be with somebody who is already like him, not somebody who isn't. Because of what she has to do to earn a living, Lena is never going to become more like Stan, so the onus is on Stan to become more like her. Which seems highly unlikely that it will ever happen.

Eva has constructed Stan in a particular way. And whilst it's eminently possible for Ian to bridge the gap between him and Lena. It's much harder for Stan to do the same thing. Because whilst they both start out lacking confidence. They lack it for different reasons. Ian has already been in a relationship with a hot girl and he's not inexperienced when it comes to sex. He just lost his confidence, because his last relationship ended badly. Whereas, Stan never had it to begin with.

The reason why Ian would choose Holly is obvious. She may be a geek, but she's a very successful geek, in the occupation Ian wants to pursue. He admires her as an artist and they're kindred spirits, who both share the same overriding passion for literature. He may not be physically attracted to Holly, in the same way he is with Lena or Cindy, but the things they share outside of sex, could lead to an equally intense relationship.

 

[adanu]

he connects with.

Can you describe what this means?

 

[Blurpee69]

I'm honestly waiting for the moment it's Ian vs Jeremy, and I will go to all means on kicking our scumbag douche of a so call 'friend's ass accordingly.

That's your soon to be Eskimo brother you're talking about dude! Jeremy is definitely tapping that before Ian.

Way one: A actual possible romance that is heartfelt and genuine, and a pleasant surprise to Ivy, who I think expects Ian to fuck her simply because he is a guy, but if we don't chase after her for the sexual merit, it's more of a boon than anything.

So you too, have played the bad Jess route?

 

[Xupuzulla]

The only defense people have of Holly is her profession,that is CRAZY.
Yeah im doing another Alison save,fuck that boring geek.

 

[varpep]

The only defense people have of Holly is her profession,that is CRAZY.
Yeah im doing another Alison save,fuck that boring geek.

It's clear you have an inherent bias against Holly. No need to try and justify it It's okay.

 

[fatpussy123]

The only defense people have of Holly is her profession,that is CRAZY.
Yeah im doing another Alison save,fuck that boring geek.

You mean defense from the comparison to Stan, the reason why this is being discussed? Since I believe there were other defenses brought up. It's just that they were not disputed.

 

[Akaal]

Plus she actually has a successful writing career.

How does a successful writing career make cocks cum?
Holly feels like a boy sometimes. Tried her route once, but I guess I'm not gay enough.

 

[varpep]

How does a successful writing career make cocks cum?
Holly feels like a boy sometimes. Tried her route once, but I guess I'm not gay enough.

Well I think a strength of this game is the wealth of body types and shapes. Now you may not be attracted to a certain body type or shape and that is fine. The only body type I'd say that may be lacking is the plumper ones (like Stan) but I think the game mixes it up well.

 

[Blurpee69]

Well I think a strength of this game is the wealth of body types and shapes. Now you may not be attracted to a certain body type or shape and that is fine. The only body type I'd say that may be lacking is the plumper ones (like Stan) but I think the game mixes it up well.

Holly, Emma, and Allison are all supposed to have those "plumper" body types. They're just very Hollywood plump; which is to say, not very. Now, bring back muscle mommy Emma!

 

[fatpussy123]

When ORS ends, do we think the next game will take place in St. Boy?

 

[Xupuzulla]

How does a successful writing career make cocks cum?
Holly feels like a boy sometimes. Tried her route once, but I guess I'm not gay enough.

You ask what Holly brings to the table and they tell you her job
Fuck even Minerva is ahead of her in terms of choices,at least the MILF knows how to suck a dick

 

[Geigi]

Geigi I saw. Why did your comment get deleted?

My phone messed up my post while I tried to edit, so I deleted it.

The only defense people have of Holly is her profession,that is CRAZY.
Yeah im doing another Alison save,fuck that boring geek.

I like Holly because we are similar, it's safe to say we have things in common.

You ask what Holly brings to the table and they tell you her job
Fuck even Minerva is ahead of her in terms of choices,at least the MILF knows how to suck a dick

I'm hoping that Minerva will dom Ian, slowly torturing him until he's begging to cum, again and again.

 

[fatpussy123]

I'm hoping that Minerva will dom Ian, slowly torturing him until he's begging to cum, again and again.

I think the ship has sailed with dom Minerva. EK had the perfect chance to build off the scene where she makes Ian go down on her and he can agree or dom her by making her blow him. It didn't escalate from there and with femdom being middling on the polls I don't see EK adding it for Minerva. Besides Lena, the only character I can still see domming Ian is Ivy, she can already make Ian submit in the ring, tease him with feet, and her whole thing till now has been stringing Jeremy along (kinda like Lena does to Ian in the no sex route). So I could see her having it so that Ian can dom her if he's chad and wins wrestling and if not Ivy domming loser Ian.