Cicica

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You guys who played GGGB know the kind of perverted mind EvaKiss can have.
That was one of the reasons I was waiting for this game so much haha.
Joking aside, I kinda' like your interpretation and I myself have multiple playthroughs with many variables and I can't wait to see how everything is going to develop with all my combinations. I am so excited for this update, possibly because I know that it will be packed with the most amount of juicy content (I'm not referring only to sex scenes here)
 
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BlandChili

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What poor Wade did wrong to make you guys want to steal Cindy from him so badly?! Damn, i know, its a game and blah, but he s Ian fucking friend from long time. You cant just go and backstab a friend like that.
It's funny that you bring that up, but Wade is actually a good example of what I see as a sort of "disconnect" between the player and the main character(s). Wade is Ian's friend, he is not mine, I can absolutely sympathize with the friendship and accept that it's rooted in some sort of actual backgroud story, but I do not possess the same emotions towards the man that the character of Ian does, and therefore it doesn't really conflict with me to pursue Cindy to the same degree.

For those kinds of relationships to feel real in fiction, we as consumers needs to be shown it and not told ("Show don't tell" is the first thing you will be taught in writing class). Wade and Cindy being introduced as "Ian's pals" in the first episode is not enough, which is why you see plenty of scenes with Perry and Wade following this initial encounter, this is meant to reinforce the friendships in the group through narrative action. But, by the time we really get to know Wade and his dynamic with both Cindy and Ian, we're already halfway seducing Cindy (those of us that made that choice).

I don't know if you've read my comments but in my very first one in this comment section, I'm pretty sure, I start out by explaining that I had switched around from liking the idea of Ian/Holly by looking at the character roster images, to pursuing Lena/Holly instead simply because I dislike "established relationship dynamics." By this i mean that Holly already has a crush on Ian when you begin the game. This felt unearned to me and I found it a much more enticing endeavour to try and get Holly to fall for Lena because they are total strangers to each other in the beginning of the story and getting them to be a couple would be my own achievement.
 
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locoaceto

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OK. Now that I ve finished chapter 6 and all possible branchs, and after reading several previous comments, I want to make out my thoughts

What poor Wade did wrong to make you guys want to steal Cindy from him so badly?! Damn, i know, its a game and blah, but he s Ian fucking friend from long time. You cant just go and backstab a friend like that.

Eva s showing signs that Jeremy is going to fuck Lena (Lena Jeremy path). If that happens, I hope that Eva also gives the option to breaking Jeremys fucking face real bad. Send him to the hospital. I like him, but Ian is a nice guy and a good friend (atlast in my savefiles). If Lena comes to try flirt with Jeremy, he NEEDS to turn her down (but he wont. because he s a fucking womanizer, a player (never heard this expression before).

Perry is annoying but i like him. is that kind of dude that you love to hate.

I m also a little scared. You guys who played GGGB know the kind of perverted mind EvaKiss can have.

Damn. I had so much to say about each one of the characters, but this comment s already long, and my english isnt good (my brain s melting). I just wanted to congratulate Eva for the game. It s very, very well written. It s a top five stars
The only issue with Wade is he's cool with Perry lol. Perry is a cancer.......

the Jeremy/lena situation is inevitable but I wonder if he's gonna start backpeddling on his every women is fair game logic if/when Ian starts banging Ivy or Louise. that I'm very curious to see how itll be written in
 
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Tierra_Azul

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What poor Wade did wrong to make you guys want to steal Cindy from him so badly?! Damn, i know, its a game and blah, but he s Ian fucking friend from long time. You cant just go and backstab a friend like that.
It's hard to feel sympathy for Wade. He has no ambition, no drive. According to his bio, all he wants to do is sit around playing video games and drink beer. Guys with no ambition and who don't take care of themselves are doomed to loose a girl like Cindy. If you're concerned about Wade, it's probably better to have Ian go after her, than letting her be another photo in the Axels book of conquests. ;) (Visually, I think Axel and Cindy would make a great pair.)

option to breaking Jeremys fucking face real bad. Send him to the hospital.
Calm down and take it easy :ROFLMAO: . If your scenario played out, Ian would spend the rest of the game busting/getting busted cheeks in jail. If Lena sleeps with Jeremy it's because you the player decided it would happen. I highly doubt the two protagonists will start sexual relationships without player agency.
 

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It's hard to feel sympathy for Wade. He has no ambition, no drive. According to his bio, all he wants to do is sit around playing video games and drink beer. Guys with no ambition and who don't take care of themselves are doomed to loose a girl like Cindy. If you're concerned about Wade, it's probably better to have Ian go after her, than letting her be another photo in the Axels book of conquests. ;) (Visually, I think Axel and Cindy would make a great pair.)



Calm down and take it easy :ROFLMAO: . If your scenario played out, Ian would spend the rest of the game busting/getting busted cheeks in jail. If Lena sleeps with Jeremy it's because you the player decided it would happen. I highly doubt the two protagonists will start sexual relationships without player agency.
Still people will complaint dky I think too much porn is bad for these guys
 

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If you're concerned about Wade, it's probably better to have Ian go after her, than letting her be another photo in the Axels book of conquests. ;) (Visually, I think Axel and Cindy would make a great pair.)
To be fair, if you're concerned about Wade then IDEALLY you have Ian tag along with Cindy up to the museum visit, after that you tell her to actually rely on her boyfriend instead of continuing to help her go behind his back. If you go beyond that then I definitely feel your Ian is aiming to stick his hand in the cookie jar.
 
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And how convincingly he feigns igorance when you tell him that you work there. Also, how convenient that Lena gets fired from her job at his restaurant right after he meets her :D. I think his plans started with the evening Axel met Lena, else he wouldn't have been there
Read these comments and did a new playthrough, and realised to what extent Seymour's and Axel's interactions with Lena seem to be part of a manipulative plan. Two creepy dudes.

I hope there still will be a way for Lena to interact with them without being too much of a naive and/or submissive part in their scheme—even though Axel obviously is a douche and Seymour has this whole "Once I read Thus Spoke Zarathustra, and now I think I'm intellectually and morally superior to everone else" act going on.

Instead of Lena being naive and falling back into Axel's trap, I think it would be cool if she managed to reverse the roles. Axel genuinely trying to get her back, but Lena just using him and being all "sorry, you gotta leave now, I've gotten what I wanted and now I'm gonna sleep". Basically a way for her to be promiscuous while still being the one in control of her relationships. The bad Ashley in GGGB leaned a bit too much towards the "I can't get enough of your cock, fuck me like the slut that I am" porn trope for my liking.

I think Lena's role in the relationship with Mike is more balanced in that way, even though he isn't the most interesting character.
 

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Read these comments and did a new playthrough, and realised to what extent Seymour's and Axel's interactions with Lena seem to be part of a manipulative plan. Two creepy dudes.

I hope there still will be a way for Lena to interact with them without being too much of a naive and/or submissive part in their scheme—even though Axel obviously is a douche and Seymour has this whole "Once I read Thus Spoke Zarathustra, and now I think I'm intellectually and morally superior to everone else" act going on.

Instead of Lena being naive and falling back into Axel's trap, I think it would be cool if she managed to reverse the roles. Axel genuinely trying to get her back, but Lena just using him and being all "sorry, you gotta leave now, I've gotten what I wanted and now I'm gonna sleep". Basically a way for her to be promiscuous while still being the one in control of her relationships. The bad Ashley in GGGB leaned a bit too much towards the "I can't get enough of your cock, fuck me like the slut that I am" porn trope for my liking.
I think that's entirely possible, I think the relationship with Seymour is gonna thread between Lena actually falling for his corruption or trying to just keep him interested enough for her to keep the job.
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mehGusta

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OK. Now that I ve finished chapter 6 and all possible branchs, and after reading several previous comments, I want to make out my thoughts

What poor Wade did wrong to make you guys want to steal Cindy from him so badly?! Damn, i know, its a game and blah, but he s Ian fucking friend from long time. You cant just go and backstab a friend like that.

Eva s showing signs that Jeremy is going to fuck Lena (Lena Jeremy path). If that happens, I hope that Eva also gives the option to breaking Jeremys fucking face real bad. Send him to the hospital. I like him, but Ian is a nice guy and a good friend (atlast in my savefiles). If Lena comes to try flirt with Jeremy, he NEEDS to turn her down (but he wont. because he s a fucking womanizer, a player (never heard this expression before).

Perry is annoying but i like him. is that kind of dude that you love to hate.

I m also a little scared. You guys who played GGGB know the kind of perverted mind EvaKiss can have.

Damn. I had so much to say about each one of the characters, but this comment s already long, and my english isnt good (my brain s melting). I just wanted to congratulate Eva for the game. It s very, very well written. It s a top five stars
haha good thing i'm not the only one, only being able to have played the game right before the next update.

i too always wondered why cindy gets that much praise. someone said it before though, that she is the only girl who has no scenes yet and isn't some archetype (seeing as ivy is a sex symbol and holly a wallflower). additionally to many people it's delightful to snatch someone away, who is actually already in a relationship. that's the main appeal to mike as well, i think.
It's funny that you bring that up, but Wade is actually a good example of what I see as a sort of "disconnect" between the player and the main character(s). Wade is Ian's friend, he is not mine, I can absolutely sympathize with the friendship and accept that it's rooted in some sort of actual backgroud story, but I do not possess the same emotions towards the man that the character of Ian does, and therefore it doesn't really conflict with me to pursue Cindy to the same degree.

For those kinds of relationships to feel real in fiction, we as consumers needs to be shown it and not told ("Show don't tell" is the first thing you will be taught in writing class). Wade and Cindy being introduced as "Ian's pals" in the first episode is not enough, which is why you see plenty of scenes with Perry and Wade following this initial encounter, this is meant to reinforce the friendships in the group through narrative action. But, by the time we really get to know Wade and his dynamic with both Cindy and Ian, we're already halfway seducing Cindy (those of us that made that choice).

I don't know if you've read my comments but in my very first one in this comment section, I'm pretty sure, I start out by explaining that I had switched around from liking the idea of Ian/Holly by looking at the character roster images, to pursuing Lena/Holly instead simply because I dislike "established relationship dynamics." By this i mean that Holly already has a crush on Ian when you begin the game. This felt unearned to me and I found it a much more enticing endeavour to try and get Holly to fall for Lena because they are total strangers to each other in the beginning of the story and getting them to be a couple would be my own achievement.
"show, don't tell" is definitely a reason why people feel no remorse towards wade. frankly i don't see how wade realistically could maintain the relationship to her, the way he is and evakiss made no effort to keep me from thinking otherwise.

another thing is, however i don't believe it directly projects it's inlfuence on this case, is how jeremy acts. we play as ian and not as jeremy. and i'm sure that people want to play ian as a player. hell you already can have flings with 4 different women (minerva not even included). because when we are going to get the option to try something with jeremy as lena, and we're going to eventually, jeremy won't stop himself for ian. i mean if you fully go allison, jeremy still tries his luck, or at least expects you to be "manly" enough to not be bothered by competition, so why would he stop himself if lena is okay with it.
and that's kinda the same with cindy. sure they are actually a couple, not like the vague situation lena and ian seem to be in, but initially it's not ian's fault that cindy is looking elsewhere. see it this way: if a couple goes to shambles because of cheating, whenever the cheated one is angry at the outsider and not the cheater, they are considered dumb. and rightfully so i might say. the real trust problems come from the cheater not the outsider. and even though ian is not actually an outsider, he is not really out to hurt wade by keeping cindy company.
so far if we look from ian's perspective we have, jeremy who rather does his own thing than to reminiscence of past days, perry who is not worth keeping as a friend (really who needs enemies if you have friends like these), Emma who has not the heart to tell no to perry and despite being happy go lucky with everyone, probably only spends time with the others because they have a history together and wade who would do nothing at all if he could. what kind of friends ian really has? so it's no wonder that when cindy isn't content with the situation, ian can sympathize with her and keep her company instead of wade.

so in the narrative of things, i don't feel ian has the obligation to maybe suppress cindy's only outlook for happiness in for friendship's sake. helping wade might be the right thing to do, but might not have the best outcome either.

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