VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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Avaron1974

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RC-1138 Boss said:
Before the discussion about how to better portrayal trans people in dialogue i had mentioned about how i was feeling that Lena's wasn't really much the focus of this latest update when compared to Ian.

His relationship with Minerva, all that tension and hatred between them turning into sexual energy was great. And it is nice that they are turning their dalliances into a habit.

Same with Cindy and all the heart to heart moments they have been sharing across the game so far culminating into that animalistic sex scene in the middle of the street, too bad they got caught red-handed.

Even Alisson was good if you focus on her, altought her jealousy in some moments seems like she clearly wants to be more than just FWB. She clearly has a dirty mind when it comes to sex despite her "eww porn" moment during this latest update.

Meanwhile Lena got a truth or dare game (hot but nothing much happen, just a tease), a (as you pointed out) empty relationship with Louise (she is also more clingy than i like). Don't even get me started on slimebag Roberts and while Mike isn't the same level of scumbag this affair will likely end badly when his girlfriend find out.

I was expecting some Holly content, that is why i made sure to keep Lena friendly with her but even then she isn't invited to come with Holly. Still i will hope for some development on this front next update. :confused:

Meanwhile Ivy is going the party hard/use drugs route while falling for the shady scheme of Jerome's friend. If Lena asks how he will pay his models the guy says he has no idea how and he redirects to talk about his grandiose idea of making a big model agency with his mysterious funding. It seems like it is going to be kinda hard for Lena to follow her unless going the same corruption way.

Maybe something can happen with Emma? She did offer to play with Lena and i can only hope. :p
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Up until this update and some of the last I quite enjoyed Lena's route with Louise, they were cute together and I thought it was going to go places instead it turns into Lena almost dismissing her and Louise getting clingy as fuck. The middle ground that had been building as instantly shat on and made that route look terrible.

I liked Ivy but don't see any outcome where she isn't a cracked up cumdump. Started off she came across as quite intelligent and street smart which was suddenly thrown out of the window and recent updates made her look dense and clueless.

I haven't played any male romance options, not my thing but even without going down their routes they seem like creeps.

It's weird, to go from an amazing character like Ash in GGGB with so many branching choices and well done romances to Lena who's shallow, vapid, bordering moronic at times and no good romance options. The 2 lesbian options in GGGB were fantastic from the slow experimenting with her best friend to Jess and her fantastic character growth to then read this and get "i'm lonely, wanna fuck" and that's the whole depth to Lena and Louise.

It legit feels like a completely different writer. There is just no depth to Lena or her "love life" term used very loosely.

I'll see how it goes with Emma and Holly going on. Her route deff needs a lot, a LOT, of work. She's lagging so far behind Ian on both friend interaction and romance it's unreal.

Then you have Ian who has a great thing with Alison if you go her route (ranted enough on the other path). Cindy and the build up there was great. The whole thing with Minerva is well done and his stuff with Holly is adorable.

I gave up on Cherry and scrapped that after the "i'm hung up on a guy i've never done anything with" nonsense.

I haven't tried Emma's route yet either.
 
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Depends on what you did there.
1) Didnt kiss at all? Probably ended the Cindy route for good, she goes off and fucks Axel %110.
2) Kissed but listened to your common sense and stopped it there? My intuition tells me this is the only way the happy ending for Ian x Cindy is gonna happen. She'll try to hold on to Wade a while, but the kiss will burn in her mind, Wade will be even more apathetic, boom, she finally breaks it off to be with Ian.
3) Fucked in alleyway?...... This doesn't have a good ending for anyone. She'll spiral out of control from there, an explosive break up with Wade that destroys the friend group, with people taking sides, Ian having to leave Perry's place because of it, whole lot of mess.
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I hope that’s not the case. I don’t want to remain chaste with Cindy to get good end or be punished with a bad ending by pursuing sex. There’s going to be friendship drama regardless imo in Cindy route
 
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This is the problem with PC culture, virtue signalling and SJW warriors getting offended on behalf of other collectives and "standing up" for their issues (I'm not calling you a SJW but your argument is characteristic of that social movement). I think you are getting confused: what a character says does not represent what the author thinks, promotes or stand for.

As BloodyMares clearly exposed, you get a wide range of reactions from the cast, from Perry to Cindy, and YOU CAN CHOOSE as Ian how to react. I think Eva's just painting a varied picture of opinions through her characters, and none of them seem to be (or need to be) morally flawless. You as a player get to see what someone like Wade thinks, or what turns Perry on, or what moral objections Alison has, etc. You get to know the characters and you're entitled to an opinion about that and how to feel about them.

Wade sounds like a dumbass and Perry is a perv who gets turned on and fetishizes trans women. You can disagree with them. But saying the game or the dev are trans-phobic is just a straw-man argument and seems like an unwillingness to go beyond a shallow read on what's actually being portrayed. As you said, it is telling of certain biased and beliefs, but that doesn't mean the game or the dev promote them, they are just reflecting them on certain characters and giving you the opotion to reflec and react on that as you see fit.

That's just my opinion, though.
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That's exactly what i want to say. Can't agree more, dude.
 
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I think if Ian follows Wade instead of Cindy (how come my a bit shy Ian fuck her right there against a wall on the street??) Axel will probably do that to her and we will hear/see this in a next update.

I know i read it somewehere, but cannot find it now, but what is the difference between the alpha, beta and final update. Just polishing the chapter or also adding a bit of the storyline?

Also like the club bouncer and holly scene, curious what that brings in the future haha
 
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jalon33

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MrWally said:
I think if Ian follows Wade instead of Cindy (how come my a bit shy Ian fuck her right there against a wall on the street??) Axel will probably do that to her and we will hear/see this in a next update.

I know i read it somewehere, but cannot find it now, but what is the difference between the alpha, beta and final update. Just polishing the chapter or also adding a bit of the storyline?
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Mostly typos and some coding flag errors. There's rarely new content added.
 
RC-1138 Boss

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MrWally said:
I know i read it somewehere, but cannot find it now, but what is the difference between the alpha, beta and final update. Just polishing the chapter or also adding a bit of the storyline?
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Bugfixes but sometimes there is content being added on the final version.
 
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So I've ignored this thread and played this update twice since it came out. This is the list of scenes I got. Am I missing anything?
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Skylark21

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Does anyone else thinks Cherry is the girl Axel cheated on Lena with? She's a model and her Pictagram pic with caption her favourite photographer might be a clue that she knows Axel. If it's true thn we might have Lena×Axel×Cherry or Lena×Cherry in future.:love:
P.S It's just a guess based on how everyone is somehow connected to each other in the game.
 
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Skylark21 said:
Does anyone else thinks Cherry is the girl Axel cheated on Lena with? She's a model and her Pictagram pic with caption her favourite photographer might be a clue that she knows Axel. If it's true thn we might have Lena×Axel×Cherry or Lena×Cherry in future.:love:
P.S It's just a guess based on how everyone is somehow connected to each other in the game.
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Yup, plus she's probably Mike's girl.
 
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BBQLord

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Bad MoFo said:
Lol, I can barely imagine defending trans people in a male chatter. Company of close friends (men) alone usually make racist and sexist jokes on each other and on everybody else, not caring about someone's feeling.
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Hopefully this also means you can imagine how someone else might feel now that the roles are reversed.
If you can't imagine *not* defending (trans) people in a conversation it's really weird if it is forced on you by not having an option to do so.
I mean, I'm all for flawed MCs but it's cool if in a choice-based game, you have a choice in the matter of how they're flawed too.

Not including such an option + no opportunity to know why Eva choose not to include = confusion and questions.
 
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Can I just point out how awesome the little details are on Cindy's bday outfit?
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yea damn right. Of all the characters who got new outfits I think Cindy's was the best. It was the little things like the shoes, her nails, the choker, the makeup.

And it helps that Wade mentioned she took many hours to get ready for it. Really sold the whole scenario to me.

On the other hand, Alison's was ok and Emma was bland. I actually did not notice Emma looked different until I checked the agenda to see the difference. Ivy looked like Ivy and I'm not even sure Holly even got a new look :unsure:.

edit: Since Lena gets to have different outfits, it'd be nice for Ian to get the option to shop for new clothes in future updates, maybe take Alison along as it was hinted in chapter 5.
 
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