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you are absolutely right with that, and without being busted, it could have transformed a lot smoother into a real loving/romantic relationship or a sexually charged love escapade / affair. i expect this outcome with the kiss option.

but they are getting caught and this lets Cindy realize, how it has to look from the outside:
that they are fucking like rabbits in public, that she is committing adultery (does this applies if you're not married?) and like a cheap streetwhore, who quickly serves a john, was not even able to get a room.
"I shouldn't do this, but I'm doing it anyway": yes, it was all fun and games until... the reality hits hard.

and since she isn't a common streetwhore* but a nice girl at heart, i expect her to be digusted with herself and Ian, full of feelings of guilt towards Wade, and ashamed in front of Jeremy and Ivy.
she already had a damaged self-esteem ("Am I so unlikeable that i have to beg...") and this above mentioned disgust could be very well the death-blow to it. girls with no or low self-esteem are easy prey to corruptional influences (like from pimps and/or bad BFs or other pervs and assholes talking them into shit and make them believe it's consensual).

we all know that there is a lot more to this situation than the appearance suggest; but who ever listened to the "It's not what it looks like, please let me explain!" of a adulterer caught red-handed?

(* i am aware that streetwhores can be nice girls at heart too, this juxtaposition serves only as demonstration)
I dont think Evakiss is going to be that rough on either Cindy or Ian, they will probably ponder their situation for a chapter or so and then nothing much will be made of it as it has been so far this game. In reality we have all made crazy things when we have been drugged up on Love or sex and yes, it can feel cheap or downright stupid but that doesnt necessarily mean relationships gets broken up about it. I think you are to harsh
 
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selberdreher

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I dont think Evakiss is going to be that rough on either Cindy or Ian, they will probably ponder their situation for a chapter or so and then nothing much will be made of it as it has been so far this game. In reality we have all made crazy things when we have been drugged up on Love or sex and yes, it can feel cheap or downright stupid but that doesnt necessarily mean relationships gets broken up about it. I think you are to harsh
i am really getting confused here.
have been the boundaries of what is appropriate really moved so much?

"In reality we have all made crazy things (...)"
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"(...) that doesnt necessarily mean relationships gets broken up about it.": so if Jeremy tells Wade, that he and a second witness (Ivy) have spotted his girlfriend Cindy fucking his friend Ian in the streets, Wade should be like: "Yeah hell, doesn't mean we have to break up, neh? We all do crazy things, when we are pent up, Buddy." perhaps i am to harsh...

yes, we are talking about a porn game here, with morals that can differ from reality. but ORS is not a game about mindcontrolling your family into your personal harem. i think Evakiss makes a point in creating relatable characters that are grounded in reality, people (although perhaps a bit kinkier than average persons) you could meet in your real life.

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i don't consider cheating to be a negligible offense. and i think Wade also doesn't.

perhaps i am too old fashioned, perhaps the times and views are changing. but, hey, each to their own, if you think differently that's your cup of tea, i won't spit in it.

*edited to be more on-topic, removed possible offending statements and personal information which could be considered off-topic.*
 
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does hanging out on F95ZONE seriously damages our capability to differentiate between right and wrong?
ORS is not real. It's a fantasy. In fantasies we can do things we can not do in real life and also things we wouldn't even want to do. You can call it an exorcism if you like. You can 'live out' all that wild things that come up in your mind without hurting anyone. And then go back to your boring live because that is what you really want.
 

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ORS is not real. It's a fantasy. In fantasies we can do things we can not do in real life and also things we wouldn't even want to do. You can call it an exorcism if you like. You can 'live out' all that wild things that come up in your mind without hurting anyone. And then go back to your boring live because that is what you really want.
absolutely.

infact throughout my gaming career i killed siblings and pregnant women (Crusader Kings 2), raped Poland as the Third Reich (Hearts of Iron), drove entire Alien species into extinction and annihilated their Home Planet with SuperStarCannons (Master of Orion), or assimilated them as the Borgs, my KillCount in WoW must be in the hundred-thousands nearing a million or more and MyArthur in GGGB cuckolded his son, drugged his daughter and made her into her personal sexslave and i enjoyed it to the fullest.

But in Reality i was every second aware of the fact that these actions are despicable and i was never tempted to justify them in any way.

since the post i was replying to gave me the impression to justify ("In reality we have all...") controversial actions in reality, and how they (don't) impact relationships, i felt compelled to answer. i saw a considerable gap between his perception of moral standards and mine.
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as always, it could be a big misunderstanding on my part.

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Since the post i was replying to gave me the impression to justify ("In reality we have all...") controversial actions in reality, and how they (don't) impact relationships, i felt compelled to answer. i assumed a considerable gap between his/her/their perception of moral standards and mine.
given the topics here on this website, and how lenient and tolerant we are towards them, made me wondering if this could cause a shift of our perception of morals and general social behaviour in the long run. because humans adapt to social norms by observation of other humans they interact with.

as always it could be a big misunderstanding on my part.
Real life is not always that simple, sometimes tiny mistakes can make big problems and other times big screwups can have no impact or even a positive outcome.

I'm in my early 30s and I've done some questionable stuff in my late teens early 20s. Sleeping with my ex's cousin a month after we broke up caused more problems (which arguably isn't THAT bad) then when I fooled around with one of my friends girlfriends during a party (no sex), this in turn made my friend stop neglecting her and actually work out their differences.
 
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Real life is not always that simple, sometimes tiny mistakes can make big problems and other times big screwups can have no impact or even a positive outcome.

I'm in my early 30s and I've done some questionable stuff in my late teens early 20s. Sleeping with my ex's cousin a month after we broke up caused more problems (which arguably isn't THAT bad) then when I fooled around with one of my friends girlfriends during a party (no sex), this in turn made my friend stop neglecting her and actually work out their differences.
yes, life isn't that simple and people are different, and there are ofc different views on what is acceptable and what is not.
and there are relationships which persist after cheating whereas others breakup. some are damaged after cheating and some become stronger. there are people who enjoy cheating and some enjoy being cheated on. others don't enjoy cheating at all.
nothing to argue here.

regarding Cindy x Wade relationship:
i tried to picture Cindys inner turmoil based on the impression i've got from her throughout my ORS run. ofc i can be wrong and she totally enjoyed cheating on Wade and liked to show Jeremy and Ivy that she is a bitch in heat.
i just seriously doubt it. depending on her future development she may someday enjoy a similar situation.
Wade showed a strong negative reaction as he discovered her photoshoot pics on her peoplegram profile. this makes me believe that he isn't into being cucked (yet). i don't expect him to be as cool with Ian as your friend was with you. again, this may change with his further development.

i think it's safe to say that each cheating puts a relationship under stress, causing potential damage. but you don't know the outcome beforehand. it's a bit like driving too fast: it may improve your driving skills and it can be fun, but it endangers yourself, your co-driver and other persons on the road. whereas the other persons on the road would be those who are being cheated on.

i don't know (as in: missing crucial information) how you and your friend and his girlfriend handled the situation, there are a lot of variables which could have played into this specific outcome.
i can only say, that in my social circles this would have been a total dick move, shunned by my other friends and earned you at least a broken nose from the one you cheated on. i saw a schoolmate loosing a whole front row of teeth for making out with another guys girlfriend at a party. so... lucky you, i guess.

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i am really getting confused here. have been the boundaries of acceptable social behaviour really moved so much in the last 20 years? is it because there is hardcore porn freely available all over the internet? or does hanging out on F95ZONE seriously damages our capability to differentiate between right and wrong?

"In reality we have all made crazy things (...)": things done by all or most people can be considered normal social behaviour; although the word "crazy" indicates them to be a bit outside normal, they should be still acceptable or tolerable by most persons (because they all have done them at one point). ergo publicly cheating on your boyfriend should be considered acceptable, public fucking should be tolerated? i am not the morality police, but this seems off to me...
"(...) that doesnt necessarily mean relationships gets broken up about it.": so if you are told from a friend, that he and a second witness have spotted your girlfriend fucking another friend of you in the streets, you would be like: "Yeah hell, doesn't mean we have to break up, neh? We all do crazy things, when we are pent up, Buddy." perhaps i am to harsh...

yes, we are talking about a porn game here, with morals that can differ from reality. but ORS is not a game about mindcontrolling your family into your personal harem. i think Evakiss makes a point in creating relatable characters that are grounded in reality, people (although perhaps a bit kinkier than average persons) you could meet in your real life.

so let me tell you about my socialization, about what i consider normal; and i am aware that this moral code doesn't apply to everybody, because i don't consider myself a zealot who forces his beliefs on others:

back in the early 90s, i was still a teenager then, i got my first GF. i happened to get a crush on another girl, with whom i made out a few times and some light petting was involved (we are talking about 3 or 4 times frenchkissing and groping breasts here, one time i touched the outside of her pussy). my GF sensed eventually that something was off, and made me confess about it. she was devastated. we decided to stay together, but she was anxious and hurting for a long time, it took me literally months to regain her trust. our relationship never fully recovered, a scar remained. i cut my ties with the other girl, which made her suffer too, because she was emotionally involved with me. she developed an eating disorder and i partly blame myself for it.
i injured two persons i cared for, so no, i don't consider cheating to be a negligible offense.

perhaps i am too old fashioned, perhaps the times and views are changing. but, hey, each to their own, if you think differently that's your cup of tea, i won't spit in it.
The Ian and Cindy situation is definitely messed up. But in the context of this game, that is part of what makes it so exciting. It’s a taboo. Ian/Emma is a similar situation since your friend and roommate is into her. Though not anywhere near the same scale since the friend has no right to restrict 2 single and consenting adults.

Cindy and Wade are clearly not happy with each other and need to break up. The proper thing to do is have Cindy break up with Wade first, and then get with Ian. But knowing that will cost Ian’s friendship with Wade, and maybe others in the group.
 

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selberdreher No offense here friend, but I sense you are the only one here overthinking things. Most of us are here just to make Lena a slave and Ian an asshole that will step over his friends to get what he wants. Because it´s a porn game. In GGGB my most prefered ending was Ashley, Natasha and Iris being Arthur´s happy sluts and that doesn´t say anything. We are here to enjoy our deepest and kinkiest of fetishes. But out of here my ethic and moral code is untouchable, no matter what i read or write here. Outside of this page I would never do anything of what i do in the game. So no, F95 does nothing to my perception of good and evil.
 

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The Ian and Cindy situation is definitely messed up. But in the context of this game, that is part of what makes it so exciting. It’s a taboo.
But lets be real: aside from Cindys obvious good looks, her main appeal is that she is unavailable, which makes getting into her pants so hot and taboo.
posted 6 days ago, i agree with you
 
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selberdreher

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selberdreher No offense here friend, but I sense you are the only one here overthinking things. Most of us are here just to make Lena a slave and Ian an asshole that will step over his friends to get what he wants. Because it´s a porn game. In GGGB my most prefered ending was Ashley, Natasha and Iris being Arthur´s happy sluts and that doesn´t say anything. We are here to enjoy our deepest and kinkiest of fetishes. But out of here my ethic and moral code is untouchable, no matter what i read or write here. Outside of this page I would never do anything of what i do in the game. So no, F95 does nothing to my perception of good and evil.
infact throughout my gaming career i killed siblings and pregnant women (Crusader Kings 2), raped Poland as the Third Reich (Hearts of Iron), drove entire Alien species into extinction and annihilated their Home Planet with SuperStarCannons (Master of Orion), or assimilated them as the Borgs, my KillCount in WoW must be in the hundred-thousands nearing a million or more and MyArthur in GGGB cuckolded his son, drugged his daughter and made her into her personal sexslave and i enjoyed it to the fullest.
yes, we are talking about a porn game here, with morals that can differ from reality. but ORS is not a game about mindcontrolling your family into your personal harem. i think Evakiss makes a point in creating relatable characters that are grounded in reality, people (although perhaps a bit kinkier than average persons) you could meet in your real life.
Reality wasn't brought into the equation initially by me, but when it was mentioned, i felt i had to answer, especially because it was in a reply to one of my posts. looks like i haven't answered in the most appropriate of all fashions, sry for that. i will edit and delete the F95Z line, since i seem to upset people with it, like right now.
 
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