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Deleted member 563623

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I have to say this was a really disappointing update to me.

The main problem is that this is becoming an extremely restrictive game. There are various options to choose and types of content to see, but most of the time if you want to see certain developments or scenes you have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get them and deny yourself various other developments and blocks of content, that you may also be interested in, so as not to get locked out or forced into certain decisions. It's especially frustrating when it would be a mostly simple matter to not only have these various branches not be mutually exclusive, but rather mutually beneficial. Unfortunately as it is you have little freedom to play the way you want to.

It's gotten to the point that even though i've supported for quite a few billing cycles overall and don't necessarily regret that because the author's work can often be quality, i can't see myself doing so anymore. It's a shame.
 

Tarmogo

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The scene was rewritten a bit, yes. To allow Lena to attempt to kiss Holly (a choice that is tracked for the future) regardless of her dating situations, but it only leads to sex with her if both Holly and Lena are open to it. Lena feels guilty for reacting so harshly towards Ian messing with Holly, she's not ready to do the exact same thing she easily blamed him for. I guess Eva didn't want to deal with Lena's hypocrisy in the writing so she made her not be one. It sucks for the player, but it improves Lena's character consistency.
I was someone who was vocal about my issues with that whole situation back during chapter 8 release, but I just checked out the changes after you mentioned it here and the rewrites help a lot I think. Allowing players to pick the kiss option (even if Lena doesn't actually do it) and having it tracked a good way to handle it I think.
 

capncharisma

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Little help needed: in the truth or dare scene when Lena takes Jeremy's pants off there used to be an animation transition where his dick bounces out and briefly covers her face that doesn't show up when I load the game up on a new computer (RIP old porn machine). Do you know if it's removed or there is a setting that allows those scenes to play? I even tried an older version and no dice.
 
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ok where will my queen hollyn get corrupted ?:oops: the changed alittle bit and doing thinks she nomarly would not dobut on the lena path with ivy they did not talk about much or about mike hope we will see things in the future because I did not protect holly from ivy but she never called mike till know.
The Holly corruption route saw some progress during this chapter. We get to see her make out with Ivy and she has started sending pictures to Mark. Their meeting seems to be coming up as the next step of her path.

As a sidenote about Alison's content: while I agree it is surprising that Ian cannot commit to her yet, I think she will definitely be getting a full romance route same as Ian/Lena or Ian/Cindy. On the bright side, if Ian hasn't committed to her yet that is probably because Eva has another idea for an Ian/Alison event where that will happen. So I'm sure there are good things coming on her path.
 
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Anyone else has found this thing? In this playthrough Lena immediately refused Robert, also kept her distance from Axel. In ch 9 when lena returns from the photoshoot with axel, a scene
 

neutral1

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Apr 5, 2018
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I have to say this was a really disappointing update to me.

The main problem is that this is becoming an extremely restrictive game. There are various options to choose and types of content to see, but most of the time if you want to see certain developments or scenes you have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get them and deny yourself various other developments and blocks of content, that you may also be interested in, so as not to get locked out or forced into certain decisions. It's especially frustrating when it would be a mostly simple matter to not only have these various branches not be mutually exclusive, but rather mutually beneficial. Unfortunately as it is you have little freedom to play the way you want to.

It's gotten to the point that even though i've supported for quite a few billing cycles overall and don't necessarily regret that because the author's work can often be quality, i can't see myself doing so anymore. It's a shame.
Yes, very well put. It's also the fact that none of my many pages of saves have specific labels on them. So I only have vague ideas where I can start again.

It's probably too far into it to change, but this game could work scene by scene, where the player decides which "variables" are set before the scene. So if its a saturday bar trip, the player can decide where they stand with the others there. If they wanted to play a Lena/Ian playthrough, for example, that would still be an option. If they want to try out basically all the scenes in a row, they could do that too.
 

John Doe Jr.

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I know some people don’t like her and one of those people might be Eva herself, but I’d love an endgame option for Lena to be with Louise. She’s the only character Lena can be actively dominant with and it’s so lovely. I hope we see more scenes of them doing normal friend things and more hot sex, of course, but I hope by the end Louise can maybe ask for Lena to officially be her Mistress and owner, but for her own part Lena could fall in love as well, since Louise already adores her.
I'm wondering if Louise has been cut
 

John Doe Jr.

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Jun 11, 2017
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Mike and Ian seem to be the only guys capable of handling Lena like a sub
People complain about a lack of good males for Lena (I think the reason could be is that Eva's idea is technically for Ian to be the canon option but that's another tangent) but aside from cheating on his girl Mike doesn't actually seem to be all that bad. He's not bland and uninspiring like Robert, not creepy like Stan, and definitely not an egotistical asshole like Seymour or Axel. In his scenes thus far he's treated Lena really well.
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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Is Ivy available to Ian? I don't think i got any scenes with her (as Ian)
Also does Alison care if you fuck others? I thought she was more like fwb and I'm also hooking up with Lena and Cindy but then she and Ian have more romantic moments like on their trip and such,so I'm curious whether she reacts differently to Ian if he's not with anybody else
 

aifgamer

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aside from cheating on his girl Mike doesn't actually seem to be all that bad

In his scenes thus far he's treated Lena really well.
The total extent of their relationship is that he goes to her apartment for no strings attached sex, then bails to go home and sleep with his actual girlfriend.

If that's treating her "really well" then that is a pretty sad commentary on the available relationships in the game for L.
 

yggdral

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Jan 29, 2019
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Is Ivy available to Ian? I don't think i got any scenes with her (as Ian)
Also does Alison care if you fuck others? I thought she was more like fwb and I'm also hooking up with Lena and Cindy but then she and Ian have more romantic moments like on their trip and such,so I'm curious whether she reacts differently to Ian if he's not with anybody else
at the moment no ivy for ian..

for alison, yes she cares. if you go full on her she actually really cares about ian romantically, just doesn't want to admit it.
even if you're on a path where you consider her just as a fwb and ian sleeping around, the point where she ask ian if he also mind she's sleeping around too, if you answer don't care with whom she sleeps, you can even see in a single render there that alison's face become sad for a moment.. so yeah i think she genuinely cares
 

lockerxx

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May 10, 2017
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I know some people don’t like her and one of those people might be Eva herself, but I’d love an endgame option for Lena to be with Louise. She’s the only character Lena can be actively dominant with and it’s so lovely. I hope we see more scenes of them doing normal friend things and more hot sex, of course, but I hope by the end Louise can maybe ask for Lena to officially be her Mistress and owner, but for her own part Lena could fall in love as well, since Louise already adores her.
Maybe Lena watches how Ivy is having a lot fun with holly and she wants something similar with Louise!!!
:love: :love: :love:
 

oopsoops

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Apr 29, 2020
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I couldn't stop myself and I played Alpha, although generally I play only full versions. I liked Axel scene, but I would prefer if it would happen a little differently
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Yea that'd be hot too.
But I think the current version actually matches the characters. Axel seems to be a guy who knows what he wants, and how to get it. Lena wants to move on, but she is submissive and Axel makes her horny.
 

oopsoops

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lmao no. I never write full scenes for the game. I wouldn't even come up with such bizarre conversation. But it cracked me up, too.

Her lack of love for him. If you didn't cuddle with him during their sex scenes, then she sees Ian as a casual (very pleasant) hook-up, but isn't ready to be in the relationship yet.

After this chapter, I think there's no doubt about it. But I'm not sure it's a proper BDSM since it's basically emotional manipulation and abuse with 2 selfish assholes. Lena's dialogue implies that Axel has always treated her right and made her feel relaxed/free/safe while being with him, yet the first thing he does is doesn't take care about her complaints and forces her to submit. Not in a smooth seductive way but with a brutal hands-on approach. Regardless of how Lena feels about it, how she gets lost in subspace and enjoys herself, this was sexual assault. He pinned her down, restricted her hands and didn't let her escape. That's not how proper doms act unless it's a prepared scenario both consented. Mike and Ian seem to be the only guys capable of handling Lena like a sub while respecting her and caring about her as a person at the same time.
Hm interesting thoughts...
When I played the Axel scene, my thought was "Axel is the one truly knows Lena."
 
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