VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.2 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

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steama90

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hi guys, i hope some of you can help me. I have started again playing this amazing game, and now i'm at chapter 12. I do not know why, before leaving for the beach, this time i do not get Ian to interact with Ivy at the gym. That is a path that i want. And i think i made all the right choices. Do some of you know the exact steps to make it happen?
 
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steama90 said:
hi guys, i hope some of you can help me. I have started again playing this amazing game, and now i'm at chapter 12. I do not know why, before leaving for the beach, this time i do not get Ian to interact with Ivy at the gym. That is a path that i want. And i think i made all the right choices. Do some of you know the exact steps to make it happen?
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During Lena's 2nd concert gig, you'll be given the option to

  1. Work on the book.​
  2. Go to the gym.​
  3. Visit Perry and friends at the bar.​
Choose the gym option. Also, ensure that Ian is training in Jiu-Jitsu beforehand. You'll meet Ivy after your training is over. Make all charisma choices for Ivy early in the game.
 
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Ragnar said:
EK's fan base was build on Female MC Corruption. You can't just pinpoint its problems to just kill Lena side of the story. If EK goes that route I think you can expetct some backlash from her paying followers. GGGB was a bang and most content was quite hardcore. ORS share some themes and even guest npcs from GGGB but the general tone of the story is softer.
The problems with ORS are not only the two MCs, it's the tone of the story, the scope of the multiple paths and so on.
Imo the best she can do right now is to start closing side characters arcs to focus on IanxLena.
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Exactly, this is one of the only few games I'm subbed to and if its gone then I will stop supporting, its that simple.
 
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So having finally played through all my routes for this update, here are my thoughts. First of, it's short. I started playing my saves from chapter 11 so when I got to chapter 13, it was so Jarring how sudden it ended. I get there was not to much story progression here but then again only a few of the scenes require elaboration.

I was disappointed with the date with John. I was expecting him to have a unique personality and the chapter to build him up as a potential great LI but turns out he is just another flavor of cock for Lena to sit on. It is nice though to have him as a potential inoffensive candidate for the MMF threesome With Lena.

The Stan content was to my surprise one of the better parts of the update because it is one of the only parts of the update with plot progression and setup. Lena and Holly becoming a couple was one of the highlights of the update for me. Also the throuple path was touched and aside from some inconsistency in the art, it was a great cherry on top of a hue sundae. Slutty Holly's scene felt a bit rushed but was great nonetheless. Just ask Xupuzulla :sneaky:

I still don't understand how a lucky beggar like Robert keeps on getting content. I tell you, soon out nowhere he will bang Ivy before Ian. When that happens we better have Ser Hawkes put on suicide watch lol. I can't believe he got the option to have a threesome with Lena and Holly with little to no work where as Lena gets mad at Ian and Holly for banging in the beach house and hiding it from her when she is not even dating either of them.

So in summary, to repeat what most of you have said already, it was a severely lack luster update. Very little plot progression, very short, a noticeable dip in art quality. To talk more about the art, did you guys notice the amount of reused assests? It is simply unacceptable with the amount of reused and repurposed scenes we got that this update took as long as it did to develop. I have no problem with reusing assets but when it merely reduces a negligible amount of time and worsens the overall art quality of the game, is it still worth it?

As I said, it's not all bad. There were some bright spots but the lack of these and the added brevity of the update does not do much for it's perception.
 
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CreativeCritic2 said:
I think this is on point but uncharitable... I think it's better to look at the problems with ORS in artistic terms rather than through the lens of Eva cynically chasing patrons.

The idea of two protagonists whose relationship expands and contracts based upon decisions they make with regards to each other and with regards to the people around them is a really interesting one but it was always *very* ambitious for a porn game.

I can imagine a French film director doing something amazing with the idea of two people feeling a genuine connection only to wind up messing it up because they can't break with old habits, old influences, or stop looking over the horizon for the next chance at a truly world-class threesome. The problem is that this isn't the type of story that porn games tend to tell... most porn games are either escapist fantasies with male MCs or they're weird corruption fantasies with female MCs. GGGB was a world-class example of the latter but I think Eva wanted to write more and you can sense that ambition in the fact that so many of the endings in GGGB are really fucked-up and borderline depressing when you look beyond the fact that the protagonist is having a grand old time as far as orgasms are concerned.

There is a sense in which ORS is an NTR game as the emotional dynamics are a lot closer to those of the better-written NTR games (like Misfits) than your typical escapist fantasy. NTR games often have this quite interesting dynamic where you start out trying to manipulate your GF into cheating on you so that you can fuck other people guilt-free only for it to drift slowly into 'I am perverting my GF because it turns me on to see her surrender completely to her desires' and I think that ORS taps into some of those dynamics without really engaging or wanting to be an NTR game.

Where I think OP's critique is really on point is the fact that, as written, ORS is more like two games with occasional crossovers than a game about a couple. Reading this thread, a lot of people approach the game by leaning into the MCs alternate relationships and I think that reflects Eva's struggles keeping the game centred upon the couple. To be honest, I don't get the impression that Lena and Ian are all that into each other as neither of them seem to think about each other when they're apart and nobody at any point goes 'Oooooh... maybe I shouldn't try and fuck their best friend'

With regards to the criticisms that Ian's love interests are better than Lena's: I think that's true of GGGB too... in that game, there's a nice artist and your high school boyfriend (who you wind up believing is dead) and every other dude is an abusive, manipulative, degenerate prick. I think unsympathetic-but-hot characters are Eva's calling card.
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I could see Eva wanting to challenge herself with a heavier story focused game after GGGB. The Lena/Ian dynamic is obviously the spark for this game but I think Eva didn't really think of the challenge that would come from players who aren't interested in playing that route. It seems obvious by now that besides the Lena, Holly and Ian path she didn't really have an idea for interesting and satisfactory stories for the other LIs.
 
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