Gicoo

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Oh, that's interesting. I never heard/saw that Ash was with Arthur with a GJess and Dave. Dave is when Lena doesn't fuck Robert, but works for Seymour, right? (or Ian switches things up talking to God)

That's a rare outcome, I'd think. Does Arthur make some explicit reference to Ash? Is she there in the background in Rome?
Procedure of exclusion.
Arthur is indicated to be rich in ORS and in GGGB he could only become so if Ashley was his partner (since he would pick her birthdate for the winning lottery ticket).
Also, Arthur only appears on a path in which Lena agreed to work with Seymour. And incidentically, this choice impacts Jess partner (Dave if Lena works with Seymour, Ashley if Lena refuses Seymour).
 

Hungover00

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Procedure of exclusion.
Arthur is indicated to be rich in ORS and in GGGB he could only become so if Ashley was his partner (since he would pick her birthdate for the winning lottery ticket).
Also, Arthur only appears on a path in which Lena agreed to work with Seymour. And incidentically, this choice impacts Jess partner (Dave if Lena works with Seymour, Ashley if Lena refuses Seymour).
Never played his path to the end. But he potentially could become rich some other way, like pimping out his daughter or other vulnerable women. Or some contrived series of events at his workplace.

But that's solid evidence for your theory, the one path lottery ticket.

Your theory implies that the canon ending for Ash is with Arthur every time but if she lands with a Good Jess AND Lena doesn't work with Seymour (slight tangent, when does that lock in? Can Lena do one or two shoots with Seymour, but not sign the contract?).

Jack never seems to be committed to Ash, so ORS at best exists in a small slice of the multiverse after GGGB. Which is honestly kind of lame, and makes me side with the folks that believe there's too much crossover between the two games.

Ash never reunites with the BF? She never becomes a pornstar? It's only Arthur or Good Jess?
 

Oli3104

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I had Lana cheat on Ian with everyone, and instead of them committing to a relationship, they hit me with the "I love you" in the beach scene... but the game is like there is zero acknowledgement, no "open relationship" but there is the option of a threesome.
 

GokutheG

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Your theory implies that the canon ending for Ash is with Arthur every time but if she lands with a Good Jess AND Lena doesn't work with Seymour (slight tangent, when does that lock in? Can Lena do one or two shoots with Seymour, but not sign the contract?).
When Lena signs the contract is when Good Jess' partner is set. If Lena signs it Jess tells Ian that Dave is her fiance when they're having coffee. Without the contract Ash is her fiance.
 

Gicoo

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Your theory implies that the canon ending for Ash is with Arthur every time but if she lands with a Good Jess AND Lena doesn't work with Seymour (slight tangent, when does that lock in? Can Lena do one or two shoots with Seymour, but not sign the contract?).
Ashley would only end up with Arthur if Lena does the same with Seymour. Else Arthur likely doesn't even appear in ORS.
So the Ashley/Arthur "bad end" is only canon if we go to the Lena/Seymour "bad end".

when does that lock in?
In chapter 9, when Seymour always proposes the unique working contract. Lena can back out of it a few times, but when she is in chapter 13 with Seymour, she is is pretty much on his path. I speculate that at this time, its very likely that it leads to the "bad" Seymour wins end. As in Seymour, Arthur, Agnes and his mayor candidate will win and Emma, Perrys dad and homeless guy will lose. On this path, Seymour always asks Lena for a meeting with Emma. I suspect at the meeting, Seymour will compromize Emma and her team in some matter, allowing him to win. If Lena isn't working with Seymour and on Emmas team, they will likely win.
 

Hungover00

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I had Lana cheat on Ian with everyone, and instead of them committing to a relationship, they hit me with the "I love you" in the beach scene... but the game is like there is zero acknowledgement, no "open relationship" but there is the option of a threesome.
Sounds like Jeremy didn't spot your Lena with another guy at the club. Did you suck Ian's dick that night, or no ones?

What did your Lena decide before going up to the beach-house? To keep cheating, reform, or break up?
 
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Oli3104

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She gave Ian a blowjob, she had sex with Jack, she gave Mike a blowjob in the DJ booth and she even gave a blowjob to the security guard, but outside the club. Before the beach scene I don't remember but I'll have to play it again and then I'll tell you, but thanks for the help
 
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