VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Echbert]

"On another note, isn't that true to real life, dude's doing skummy shit and it's "Boys will be boys", woman does same thing and she a "slut" or a "bitch", maybe Eva's channeling her own "life experiences"."

Yeah, this is what I feel. About the acceptance for men and discrimination for women. I mean, it is seen as corruption as you said, but it is just Lena working as model, the way she wanna do it, and having sex with a lot of men. I wouldn't judge her for that (like Ian doesn't). But I understand, in this world, people would see it the way you described.

i didn't mean it in the sense of judgement, but rather that the formula/structure of Lena's path is literally the structure used for the "corruption" genre in porn games, where the female MC is put into a tight situation and must sleep with sleazy dudes to survive. Eva puts a better spin on it by having Lena discover different aspects of her sexual identity, but she is largely doing what she has to in order to keep her head above water(she isn't like Ivy who's very sexually open but very much feels like she still has massive control over her life).

Don't be so dramatic. Lena hasn't reached bad girl Jessica levels yet. Only radfems think that "boys will be boys" means "being a borderline rapist". Besides, being a horndog Ian ruins his chances with more than a few of the ladies, especially Lena and Holly.

radfems? really?
don't know why you got so offended but i was obviously refering to "boys will be boys" as a concept(why would i use saying oftem reserved for children to describe ppl like Axel or Jeremy?), that dudes are able to get away with scummy shit simply because said dudes are surrounded by a society that finds it acceptable, there's a reason that the #metoo movement happened within the last decade, because numerous workplaces pretty much let shit like this go on, ppl like Axel and Seymour merely exploit that.

Ian ruining his chances aren't the consequences i'm talking about, Lena by sleeping with many of her male LIs(an i mean this in the sense of specific individuals, not the more she sleeps with the worse things get) digs herself deeper in shit. it's suppose to be like a corruption game.

>Boys will be boys
>Ignoring that Ian gets fucked if he tries to pursue more than 1 girl at a time, fucking around always bites him in the ass
>Ignoring that Lena can fuck every character in the game with no consequences whatsoever.
>Ignoring that most of the other 'boys', i.e Lena's LIs are literally sociopaths on a power trip.
Nice analogy bud.

i find it funny so many ppl are getting offended by one simple saying. as i pointed out above i'm talking about the concept of the saying not the literal saying itself. I wasn't ignoring those things at all, in fact if you actually read the first part of my comment you would see that I aknowledge Lena's LIs being literal scum. Lena's path is designed like a corruption game so obviously her LIs are creepy ass dudes. The consequences i'm talking about aren't her "losing" a LI like Ian, but actively making her life worse, if she sleeps with Axel she slowly goes back into his thrall, if she gives in to Seymour she becomes his plaything, etc. Ppl really need to read the context of the comments before replying, all of this is laid out in the discusiion i was having with "MarkOlsen".

 

[B0SS_LADY]

is it just me or EVA KISS is asking for too much SEK?



especially when there's only 1 update / 3 months.

And I have no SEK anyway.

 

[JohnnySolo]

i didn't mean it in the sense of judgement, but rather that the formula/structure of Lena's path is literally the structure used for the "corruption" genre in porn games, where the female MC is put into a tight situation and must sleep with sleazy dudes to survive. Eva puts a better spin on it by having Lena discover different aspects of her sexual identity, but she is largely doing what she has to in order to keep her head above water(she isn't like Ivy who's very sexually open but very much feels like she still has massive control over her life).

I completely agree with you that Lena’s path is set up as the “corruption” part of the game. But I disagree with you, that she must to do these things to survive. There is always another possibly and of course there are consequences, manly less money and gaining a powerful enemy, but it also opens to new possibilities. Lena can (re-)discover new/old talents (music) and can gain friends how (could) support her (Emma for example, how for sure will support her against Seymour).

As I wrot earlier, in my opinion, Lena’s path is question of beliefs / moral and if you want to stay to them or not. Maybe I wrong, I don’t know. We are still some were in the middle of game and I don’t know what Eva Kiss is planning for the future. But until know you can keep Lena “clean” (sorry, stupid description, hope you understand what I mean) and she is not broken, she may face some challenges, but every challenge that you overcome makes you stronger.

 

[Lolita69]

is it just me or EVA KISS is asking for too much SEK?

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especially when there's only 1 update / 3 months.

And I have no SEK anyway.

Yeah not cheap though.

 

[Albaduldür]

UPDATE

 

[Deleted member 2128394]

Tbh I hope Eva makes a distinction between the level of "corruption" needed for something easy like an onlyfans account or artsy modeling and straight up whoring yourself out to some rich dude.

I don't think being a model or an onlyfans girl should make a girl "broken" in general, it's a pretty normal thing. Getting fucked by your ex or getting manipulated by a rich pretentious asshole for money on the other hand... yeah that's a different story

 

[cheesetriangles]

There is nothing wrong with Lena having sex for money. It's hardly a "corrupt" thing. Seymour is a piece of shit for trying to remove all the options in her life. Just wish it was her choice instead of a path she was forced down.

 

[Deleted member 2128394]

There is nothing wrong with Lena having sex for money. It's hardly a "corrupt" thing.

Oh sure, there's nothing morally wrong with it, but I just wanted to note there's a pretty big difference between doing onlyfans and actually having sex for money, at least in terms of mental strength and type of person one should be to not get their soul crushed by that.

Ofc this is just speaking about the people I know, but some of them I know really well. Online sex work like onlyfans or camming is much more easily kept as a side gig or stopped when the enthusiasm is lost, but prostitution is usually something that defines your life, and it's much harder to walk back from that if it starts getting to you.

In general if a friend started an onlyfans I'd be like "oh cool, good luck", but if they started picking up guys for cash, I'd be more like "hey... is there something going on, you okay?". Just my $0.02.

 

[cheesetriangles]

Oh sure, there's nothing morally wrong with it, but I just wanted to note there's a pretty big difference between doing onlyfans and actually having sex for money, at least in terms of mental strength and type of person one should be to not get their soul crushed by that.

Ofc this is just speaking about the people I know, but some of them I know really well. Online sex work like onlyfans or camming is much more easily kept as a side gig or stopped when the enthusiasm is lost, but prostitution is usually something that defines your life, and it's much harder to walk back from that if it starts getting to you.

In general if a friend started an onlyfans I'd be like "oh cool, good luck", but if they started picking up guys for cash, I'd be more like "hey... is there something going on, you okay?". Just my $0.02.

The ties a lot into society and how human civilization has evolved over the past 10,000 years but that is pretty far afield of the game.

Anyway I hope Lena does not have everything fall apart.

 

[Deleted member 2128394]

Yeah I got a bit carried away hahaha

But yeah, I'd just like to see a path where stuff like that is kept as a side gig. I play this with my gf who is a camgirl and she gets extra annoyed at bad sex worker stories lmao

 

[Dortan]

Its true about Lena's scenes with Ian. It makes me so sad that Ian is small and pathetic. The romance vibes in his route with Lena are second best (losing only to Holly x Ian)- but the guy is not hot.

Also, agree that Lena doesn't currently seem to have any viable route to success but to mega-slut. Almost all her stat points, narrative, and monetary growth is on those routes. Maybe it is a long term plan to give her alternatives? Playing her route as someone who dislikes corruption narratives feels like "avoidance simulator" the game.

Ian? Small and pathetic? He looks the same as any other guy in the game, dick size and all , he's just not as muscular as some and his face is a bit plain, that's it lol.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Tbh I hope Eva makes a distinction between the level of "corruption" needed for something easy like an onlyfans account or artsy modeling and straight up whoring yourself out to some rich dude.

I don't think being a model or an onlyfans girl should make a girl "broken" in general, it's a pretty normal thing. Getting fucked by your ex or getting manipulated by a rich pretentious asshole for money on the other hand... yeah that's a different story

Agree. Making money from sex on a onlyfans account is at the end of the day her own choice. Being manipulated/blackmailed by scumbags like Axel or Seymour is something completely different.

That being said, so far as i remember, i do think Lena can have the onlyfans account without without falling for Axel manipulative bs or Seymour obssession.

 

[TheBlackGungir]

Ian? Small and pathetic? He looks the same as any other guy in the game, dick size and all , he's just not as muscular as some and his face is a bit plain, that's it lol.

Also with high enough lust and fitness dude pretty much got that good dick according to most of the women he fucks.
The only thing he doesn't have is Big Dick like Axel and Jermey and it seems like even with his big dick Jemery is kinda trash with sex especially in that scene with Lena.

 

[Baka!]

I haven't played this game for a long time but I think it's on its way to make some mistakes that GGGB already made, for example the fact that if you follow all possible sexual routes you can end up stuck on a specific route without being able to get the end of another route, in this game it gives the impression that if Lena gets too deep in the route of Seymour or Axel she will no longer be able to have another ending, it sounds sad to say but right now I have lost interest in this game, another aspect that In my opinion is unnecessary are the stats, it is a mechanic that in my opinion limits the game more than it helps it, I do not know if I am the only one who thinks about it but after this game is finished Eva should make a fantasy game, I think she could create cool things if she's really inspired

 

[TheBlackGungir]

I haven't played this game for a long time but I think it's on its way to make some mistakes that GGGB already made, for example the fact that if you follow all possible sexual routes you can end up stuck on a specific route without being able to get the end of another route, in this game it gives the impression that if Lena gets too deep in the route of Seymour or Axel she will no longer be able to have another ending, it sounds sad to say but right now I have lost interest in this game, another aspect that In my opinion is unnecessary are the stats, it is a mechanic that in my opinion limits the game more than it helps it, I do not know if I am the only one who thinks about it but after this game is finished Eva should make a fantasy game, I think she could create cool things if she's really inspired

I mean we just started the Axel and Seymour route so it's hard to tell how it will be going all we know is that this is her fetish and fantasy so matter how you play Lena she is always a sub but even then If I had to guess it depends I feel Will points will be more important in coming update to resist corruption or not succumb completely to their demands whether you agree to the deal or not. Also, there is a cheat mode available for people who don't want to worry about stats.

The only thing I worry about is the saying no to Seymour route going to have the same amount of sex scenes or will be one of those where it's just way less content for it which would be disappointing or if no matter what she ends having to accept to me that would be lame but again this route has just begun.

 

[Homemade]

Guys who think, Ian is a short and pathetic protagonist. Don't worry "Eva" has heard your prayers.



New Ian will be, 6'2 Ultra Chad with monster COCK, women will act slutty and fall in love with him by just looking at him. Then He will create a perfect harem, that will include all women of 'ORS" and Even little PUSSY Lola will love new Ian.!!




After revamping, In the new update of "ORS" Jeremy will be fucked by Sensei WEN!



Just kidding!! guys. I know a lot of people wish that they were playing as Jeremy or Axel but personally, I have played that type of too many AVN's where the male protagonist is some Magic Cock entity and all the girls are waiting for him to conquer them or a boy who wants to fuck their you know. So for me, Ian was a breath of fresh air. I Know he is of average height and does not have a monster DIK. I was quite shocked at Ian's height first also because I am quite tall in real life and being taller helps you a lot with ladies in real life. But height is not only the factor that defines a person. The person has to have a lot of confidence and charisma, be insightful, funny, and don't be an asshole, liar and manipulative and on all those fronts Ian has all that at least compared to most males in "ORS". The game would be less fun for me if I was playing with Axel or Jeremy as protagonists or Ian with ultra-chad looks, with huge Dik, larger height, and Muscular body. He has the best personality traits at least in my opinion.

I don't hate Jeremy, that much and he used to be a nerd like Ian, in the past and something devastating must happen to him to turn his life around to become a wannabe player. I would like if path with Lena x Jeremy is more than some BBC fetish. And Lena is the one who discovers the real Jeremey, who hides behind his facade of wannabe womanizer, but I don't think we will be able to see that path. Let's see it depend on ''Eva'' I can only hope!


I don't have that much problem with seemore. Every story needs a great villain and he is the villain of this story. Even though I have a hunch that he is Lena's biological father. He is the Godfather of this game. You can like him or hate him but you can't ignore him. I play my Ian as Anti Hero, so It will be fun to see how kind of villain he turns out to be in all paths.

 

[DarkLurker12]

I don't hate Jeremy, that much and he used to be a nerd like Ian, in the past and something devastating must happen to him to turn his life around to become a wannabe player. I would like if path with Lena x Jeremy is more than some BBC fetish. And Lena is the one who discovers the real Jeremey, who hides behind his facade of wannabe womanizer, but I don't think we will be able to see that path. Let's see it depend on ''Eva'' I can only hope!

This man speaks the Truth. It's so rare to find a black LI that's more character then fetish, that I only know of Oni's Rogue-like and RedLolly's Lust Campus as alternatives. Atleast in that there it's not just BBC or thuglife like in most other games.

 

[JohnnySolo]

I don't have that much problem with seemore. Every story needs a great villain and he is the villain of this story. Even though I have a hunch that he is Lena's biological father.

That was also something, that I was thinking. Or he has a personal interest, maybe he had a story with Lena’s mom and she dumped/rejected him and now as he is wealthy and powerful, he wants his revenge by corrupting / destroying Lena….

 

[evilkitty97]

Not to be rude but, how long is the game currently at now?

I wanna try playing it but I might go crazy from intense cliffhangers or something.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

That was also something, that I was thinking. Or he has a personal interest, maybe he had a story with Lena’s mom and she dumped/rejected him and now as he is wealthy and powerful, he wants his revenge by corrupting / destroying Lena….

Yeah, I very much doubt Seymour is Lena’s father. I think Lena states that she remembers her biological father from pictures, in which case she probably would recognize him if she met him. ORS is also more realistic than the porn fantasy based GGGB, making incest very unlikely. It would also make it problematic to release it on Steam. And most importantly it would be a gigantic dealbreaker for a lot of players if such a secret is revealed only after you’ve let Lena get involved in sexual stuff with him.

I think Eva either just added it for the general backstory without thinking about how a lot of people would interpret it (I think it’s a nice detail for the general theme of dysfunctional relationships to show how both Ian and Lena have grown up with some of those around them, adding to their own with Gillian and Axel), or she also did it to intentionally mislead just for the fun of it.