Doppelgang

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That's the sort of unrealistic fetish usually relegated to extreme porn or bad erotic writing (fair enough, very common in a lot of badly written games on here). I wouldn't generally call it playful & it's actually the kind of thing I'd rather avoid in these stories, only partially because of that implausibility*. (I mean, if your partner considers you "worthless", why the hell are you together? It takes out all the tension and push/pull dynamic, too. If the relationship isn't worth it, there are no stakes = Not interesting).

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I was thinking more along the lines of her being a big slut "that can't help herself" & playfully teasing about all the big cocks she can't resist filling her up, like some of the dialogue at the end of Chapter 10, which an astute Lena may interpret turns the right kind of Ian on. The turn towards meanness I detect that path heading towards is exactly what I didn't want. Helpless nymphos with a heart of gold, gobbling 10 cocks FTW.
The parenthesis sums it up pretty well for me. If the relevant events/paths of chapter 10 are written to their end in the typical uninventive, everything-has-to-gradually-escalate porn game kind of way, we can expect something similar as in GGGB, with no other reason for them to be together than a sadistic meanness on Lena's part, as you mentioned. (Ian, in his involuntary celibacy, sits in the corner while having a sad wank with his half flaccid cock, as he watches Lena getting gangbanged on the bed again, taking the time now and then to declare how much bigger and better the cocks are than Ian's.)

Chapter 10 suggests that we'll go a certain way in that direction, but I refuse to believe that Eva's spent so much more time to establish the characters and the story if she'll take it to similar extremes again. I don't even care that much exactly how it ends up, I just like the ambivalence and tension in that path—that Ian and Lena are pulled in different directions, as individuals and as a couple.

I think the first Chapter 10 scene with Ian and Lena was close to perfect in that way ("one of the biggest?"). It's not like Ian is dying to hear about Axel's cock while she jerks him off—it's just his insecurity and jealousy that pulls him towards it. If he's watched Lena's Stalkfap content, the idea of Lena as a sexual creature (also without Ian's presence) has established itself in his mind, even if he's conflicted about that as well. Gillian's cheating would naturally also shape his thinking around this stuff.

It's not like Lena either is dying to talk about Axel's cock when she's with Ian, but he represents the benchmark for Lena when it comes to everything sexual. So it's easier than said to keep him out of her thoughts, and when Ian unexpectedly mentions him … she grabs the chance. Even if giving Axel that kind of presence in her new relationship also is something she really doesn't want to.

I'm hoping Eva will keep making use of that friction and ambivalence instead of settling for solutions like the "I just love talking about being fucked by other men while I deny Ian" stuff we saw the outlines of in the next scene. The former could both end in healthy or unhealthy relationships, and could involve both characters doing shitty things to the other. It just wouldn't make Lena mean or without any reflections about what she's doing; and they'd still have reasons to be together, even if some parts of the relationship ends up as dysfunctional.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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The parenthesis sums it up pretty well for me. If the relevant events/paths of chapter 10 are written to their end in the typical uninventive, everything-has-to-gradually-escalate porn game kind of way, we can expect something similar as in GGGB, with no other reason for them to be together than a sadistic meanness on Lena's part, as you mentioned. (Ian, in his involuntary celibacy, sits in the corner while having a sad wank with his half flaccid cock, as he watches Lena getting gangbanged on the bed again, taking the time now and then to declare how much bigger and better the cocks are than Ian's.)

Chapter 10 suggests that we'll go a certain way in that direction, but I refuse to believe that Eva's spent so much more time to establish the characters and the story if she'll take it to similar extremes again. I don't even care that much exactly how it ends up, I just like the ambivalence and tension in that path—that Ian and Lena are pulled in different directions, as individuals and as a couple.

I think the first Chapter 10 scene with Ian and Lena was close to perfect in that way ("one of the biggest?"). It's not like Ian is dying to hear about Axel's cock while she jerks him off—it's just his insecurity and jealousy that pulls him towards it. If he's watched Lena's Stalkfap content, the idea of Lena as a sexual creature (also without Ian's presence) has established itself in his mind, even if he's conflicted about that as well. Gillian's cheating would naturally also shape his thinking around this stuff.

It's not like Lena either is dying to talk about Axel's cock when she's with Ian, but he represents the benchmark for Lena when it comes to everything sexual. So it's easier than said to keep him out of her thoughts, and when Ian unexpectedly mentions him … she grabs the chance. Even if giving Axel that kind of presence in her new relationship also is something she really doesn't want to.

I'm hoping Eva will keep making use of that friction and ambivalence instead of settling for solutions like the "I just love talking about being fucked by other men while I deny Ian" stuff we saw the outlines of in the next scene. The former could both end in healthy or unhealthy relationships, and could involve both characters doing shitty things to the other. It just wouldn't make Lena mean or without any reflections about what she's doing; and they'd still have reasons to be together, even if some parts of the relationship ends up as dysfunctional.
Based on the Ch 11 prologue, the results of GGGB and the streamlining that Eva seems to be starting to get this game complete before we're all AARP members (which, don't get me wrong, is a very reasonable trade-off), I'm quite a bit more pessimistic. Fingers definitely crossed hoping, though.
 

Alphaeboy

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I kinda like you mate :geek: :giggle: but common I can understand if people are on loving holly path with no drama/corruption or alison path without the tressome or corruption or loyal lena path that they are all over this girls and want a happy ending but I have to be honest cindy is not the one pls there are so many red flags (at the start the scene with the beer,always wants to stay in the middle ,goes on nudes photoshots without telling bf,instantly mad if not getting what she wants,cheating behind bf back ,the pool game if losing,dont instantly break up with her boyfriend and many more....) lets be honest the only reason why guys are all over her are her insanly good looks like the top cheerleader girl on campus but I actually think that cindy is not a good decissions for the romatic/no kinky bois in here(and not every girl has to be) and Ian would deserve consequences for that decission
I'd rather not take the risk. She was happy and fulfilled with Wade, and look at what's been happening now.

This guy gets it. Her super model looks hides an unreasonably petty and selfish girl.
yeah I agree with you she is 100% not the best gf material but I will kinda go for her because I am the I can fix her /simp/loser typ of guy but i kinda exspect what will happen in the future and to be honest Ian deserves that for beaing a shitty friend :BootyTime:maybe wade will get his shit together and knock ians ass out :BootyTime: :BootyTime:
This is why I consider the best girls for him are Lena, Holly, Alison & Cherry. I like Cindy but mainly because she's hot. At least the four girls I mentioned at least have chemistry with Ian on a personal level. Hell, I know Cherry is underrated but I like the moment when she confesses being Alex ex and the whole drama, and I like how the sweet sex scene after.
 

Fibito

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Haven't played since ch10 alpha, but I can't get Lena, Louise, Jeremy Threesome when she is in relationship with Ian.
It did happen in alpha.
Did Eva fix that so threesome route is off the limit with those three if she is in relationship. Or maybe i missed some important choices. I can't get the scene even when Ian suggest experimenting together.

Another thing that is bothering me is that Lena won't suggest Ian threesome in both of those roads for me anyways. Does Lena have to say FFM threesome is her fantasy in drinking game for that to trigger?
 
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Mythos079

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Haven't played since ch10 alpha, but I can't get Lena, Louise, Jeremy Threesome when she is in relationship with Ian.
It did happen in alpha.
Did Eva fix that so threesome route is off the limit with those three if she is in relationship. Or maybe i missed some important choices. I can't get the scene even when Ian suggest experimenting together.
Yes, now you can't get that threesome if Lena and Ian are officially a couple, even an open one.
Another thing that is bothering me is that Lena won't suggest Ian threesome in both of those roads for me anyways. Does Lena have to say FFM threesome is her fantasy in drinking game for that to trigger?
No, the only requirements are:
- Ian and Lena are dating, already had sex and Ian is not a cuck
- They are in an open relationship, Lena Lust is more than 5 or Lena has some Willpower
 

Mfka5

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Yes, now you can't get that threesome if Lena and Ian are officially a couple, even an open one.

No, the only requirements are:
- Ian and Lena are dating, already had sex and Ian is not a cuck
- They are in an open relationship, Lena Lust is more than 5 or Lena has some Willpower
Wait hold on, how do i make it open relationship, i think they are a couple in my playthrough
 

Jjplay

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Hey, I have been playing this game for a while now, and I have downloaded 3 updates each of approx 600mb. If I want to play the new one, but keep my saves, can I transfer the save files? If yes, just copy pasting the "Saves" folder? Or do I need to keep the old versions even with the new updates?

Right now, I download a new update and it automatically has my old saves in it, but I want to remove the old updates if they are redundant.
 

ffive

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Hey, I have been playing this game for a while now, and I have downloaded 3 updates each of approx 600mb. If I want to play the new one, but keep my saves, can I transfer the save files?
You don't need to transfer save files, they're also stored in special OS folder and as such are accessible to all instances of the game. You can simply delete older versions of the game, and keep the most recent one.
 
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Jjplay

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You don't need to transfer save files, they're also stored in special OS folder and as such are accessible to all instances of the game. You can simply delete older versions of the game, and keep the most recent one.
Thanks a ton!
 

Doppelgang

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Based on the Ch 11 prologue, the results of GGGB and the streamlining that Eva seems to be starting to get this game complete before we're all AARP members (which, don't get me wrong, is a very reasonable trade-off), I'm quite a bit more pessimistic. Fingers definitely crossed hoping, though.
Yeah, I mostly agree with your objections, so I’m only cautiously optimistic. But the GGGB ending doesn't worry me that much, considering how that game started off in a completely different gear than ORS and had a much more straightforward path towards the stereotypical pornish endings.

With that said, there’s probably a very significant amount of current and potential players who want to see ORS end somewhere similar (e.g. Lena as a “mindless slut”), so that’s also something Eva understandably will have to balance with her own vision.
 

DZE

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I like that Stan is getting some love by the devs after so much shit being thrown at him, the update was kinda short but nice and it really feel things are coming to a conclusion.
 
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seaoflove

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I noticed something while playing this game. Many of the characters in the story have an opposite gender counter part.

Ian / Lena: Extremely flexible in what they can do as they are both protagonists they have to be counter parts.

Stan / Holly: Intelligent and shy nerd with a crush on someone.

Mike / Emma: Sexy Latina horn ball she plays the drums and works at a record store, and he is a DJ so both have lives that revolve around music and sex.

Louise / Perry: "Whiny bitch room mate" need I say more? Also, you get the choice to bang the person they are with / want to be with behind their back.

Cindy / Axel: Hot blonde model that is horny and unhappy about the state of their relationship status.

Jeremy / Ivy: Both are highly sexual and push things to be more sexual every chance they get. Neither is shy about sharing pictures of their sexual exploit with their friend.

Minerva / Ward: A lustful elder with a position of authority.

Ed / Molly: Happily married older couple that have been together forever.

Robert / Alison: Never fully compatible in the bedroom and things always go to far. Alision when you cream pie her or try anal she gets upset. Robert is never satisfied in the bedroom either needing to resort to stuff like cosplay and Lena tends to lie to him to keep him happy.
 
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