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- Dec 26, 2019
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As someone who ran the game like a sitcom, I gotta agree with this sentiment. I mainly keep two routes at this point for Ian (w/ Lena and Holly) and honestly, when Ian is with Holly, I could hardly pair Lena with anyone else... without feeling uncomfortable. I even tried Louise in my first run for Lena and the relationship was just full of red flags. I personally feel like only Lena - Ivy could vaguely makes sense for a relationship, given their history and the fact it reminded me a bit of Ash-Jess from GGGB. But until the end arrives, I won't know how it will turn out though...
Cindy's reaction depends on what sort of relationship she has with Ian -- she only makes a request if she and Ian have a deeper relationship. If it's just an affair, then she's equally chill about Ian hooking up with Lena:I thought she was aware of Cherry also, because they were talking about Ian's conquests before. Also she was rather cool about Alison, but she demanded a break up with Lena. Though after reading other posts, what I think was off could be just a plot convenience because a proper breakup with Wade and dating Ian is an ending material.
Python:
else:
i "Well, yeah... But I already told you it's nothing serious."
if ian_cindy_love:
c "Yet you say you're serious about me..."
i "And I am."
c "Then you should stop seeing her, don't you think?"
call friend_xp ('cindy',-1) from _call_friend_xp_970
i "You're right about that. I'll talk to her..."
c "Yeah, you should."
else:
c "I see. Same as this, then..."When did they have a threesome? Is that only revealed on Cherry route? Or maybe I just can't remember.
- Dec 23, 2018
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Before the story start, is part of LenaxAxel past relationship. She reveal this to Ian after she see Ian and Perry knows Cherry when Ian invite her to his apartment and she meet Cherry there.
I wouldn't really call it yandere level, but i agree Alison was pushy and out of the line there. Though it's not exactly unexpected, given she made quite a few attempts to catch Ian's interest in the past, and her invitation is obviously another such try, easily avoided by simply not going to her place if Ian acts responsibly. So if Ian does take her up on it, she can easily convince herself he's on board with it, hence the drunk attempt.After the last run of the Ian/Lena couple, I'm totally disappointed in Alison. The situation is this: I didn't have any sexual connection with her in the whole game, the only thing was that Jeremy sent photos and videos.
After the art gallery, Alison begins to aggressively impose on Ian, inviting him home. Okay, I agreed because I just wanted to talk like a friend about Gillian.
But it was disgusting of her to try to seduce Ian, knowing he was in a relationship with Lena and take offense after the refusal.
This is yandere maximum level, it looks like psychopathy and obsession. Probably in the next episodes, Alison will put a gun to Ian's head, demanding attention.
In my game, since i play mostly for the drama, i've decided that Ian still reeling over Gillian showing up and his earlier dream, Alison's sudden change of appearance and a night of drinking was enough of excuse to momentarily lose himself. I'm planning for him to honestly try to put a stop to it once he sobers up, but if it turns out to create complications, then all the better
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I like drama, but I like betrayal more. If both sides are cheating, it's no longer fucked up. They just deserve each other lol. That's why one party is a morally infallible person while the other is a cheating bastard on my two main runs.I wouldn't really call it yandere level, but i agree Alison was pushy and out of the line there. Though it's not exactly unexpected, given she makes quite a few attempts to catch Ian's interest in the past, and her invitation is obviously another such try, easily avoided by simply not going to her place if Ian acts responsibly. So if Ian does take her up on it, she can easily convince herself he's on board with it, hence the drunk attempt.
In my game, since i play mostly for the drama, i've decided that Ian still reeling over Gillian showing up and his earlier dream, Alison's sudden change of appearance and a night of drinking was enough of excuse to momentarily lose himself. I'm planning for him to honestly try to put a stop to it once he sobers up, but if it turns out to create complications, then all the better
- Nov 19, 2017
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I did another playthrough and i discovered new little details i never knew about
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- Sep 2, 2021
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So, I've been playing one of my three saved routes each day, to make the update last a little longer, and now have done a quick catch-up on the ~40 pages of updates since the release. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but my sense is that around 2/3rds of the comments have been overall negative towards ch11, many centering on length of gameplay, absence of significant plot development, and continued lack of any M/F scene with Ivy. And around 1/3rd have been overall positive, citing Holly corruption, a knockout Cindy and scene, and the inventiveness of things like the shower scene, Lena's mirror scene with Seymour, and Ian's naughty dream of Gillian. That's a broad impression; I know everyone will have their own particular likes and dislikes.
I find myself in the middle of things. For what is there, I liked the update quite a lot. Holly's my girl, and two of my saves are solid HollyxIan and solid Holly corruption (ie. everyone but Ian), so I was over the moon with the two IanxHolly scenes, the shower scene, and the pics with Mark - though we should've gotten more than just two. (FWIW, I didn't get the bug in my IanxHolly game where she went with Mark anyway.) The idea of HollyxRobert is a pairing I never even thought of, and now I really want it... so Holly can gain both corruption and confidence by being the too-willing sub Robert wants in bed, and then dumping him because he's a whiny bitch.
In my ChadIan playthrough, where he just wants this to be a harem game, I went with Cherry early on, partly because Alison is way too needy, partly to cockblock Perry from Cherry. (ChadIan scores with Emma and steals Cinders too, he's alpha all the way. No homo.) And I haven't seen more than a couple of posts talking about it, but I have to say I was really impressed with Cherry's social scenes in the art gallery and bar, and the long sex scene with Ian at her apartment. I like the increasing complexity of Cherry as a character, and the sex scene was very hot.
Unlike most people, I think Seymour had a stellar chapter, basically controlling Lena's entire perception of herself by the end of the mirror scene (if you play that way), to the point that Lena honestly wants to ask him to touch her, though it doesn't happen - this time. And even if your Lena rejected him a long time ago (as she does in my LenaxIan route), there's the development I should have seen coming but didn't, where Seymour approaches Ian with the initial overtures of a similar (so far non-sexual) relationship with Ian, strongly hinting that he can be handed the book contest on a platter.
But also, like most people, I felt ch11 to be "short" or at least "shorter" after the heft of ch10. No Axel or Jessica or Nat at all, Jeremy and Emma only for brief exposition stuff, treading water with Cinders (and Wade and Ian, no matter your playthrough), no advance in the MMA tourney or Ian's work for Victor or the status of the café. The barest appearance of Miranda as basically a background character. (In my HollyxIan game, she starts chatting with Holly at the end of Ivy's class, preempting Holly in the shower with Ivy entirely - Ivy and Lena have fun instead.)
One or two people have mentioned that the impression of a shorter update has more to do with the non-sex situations, and I'd agree. My take is: too many characters are in a waiting period. Ian's book is submitted but the contest won't be over until September, Holly's second book is done but not yet published, Emma's community center hasn't done another event yet. Wade's not in another tournament yet, the nebulous MMA thing doesn't seem to be on the horizon, the Wildcats situation has been decided for Cindy but (it's implied) little or nothing has started with that. Billy's big new agency plans haven't come together yet. Point being, there's not enough stuff for the characters to just talk about in ch11.
Also, there's no real group hangout, which is always good for chat. The closest thing we get is the art gallery & bar after, but that's with a very limited number of people. Where's a good game of pool at the Fortress? Where's a pizza hangout with the Cards Against Humanity knockoff game at Perry & Ian's place? Partying at Blazer? A trip to the mall? Lena writes a song in this chapter but there's no group event like a concert or a life-drawing session at the café. And I don't need a retread of those things specifically, but my point is without a real hangout somewhere in the chapter, it feels a lot more like just a string of sex setups and payoffs. And I like those. But I also like the way Eva's characters interact in a non-sexual way, and not really having that makes the chapter feel slim.
Here's the thing. I think most of us were surprised by Eva's structure to this chapter. I'd also say that's on us to adapt to and accept, not a legit way to complain about Eva or the game. We all pretty much expected that, since ch10 was the planned midpoint, what was set up in the first half would start getting resolved in the second. And I'm sure it will, just not yet, and that's thrown us. Instead of starting to consolidate and resolve plotlines (MMA, Wildcats, LenaxHolly, etc.), Eva is letting those be for now, and is laying groundwork for new minor or maybe major plots: Gillian's return, Ivy starting to come onto Ian and perhaps vice versa, Holly expanding from lesbian sex to non-Ian hetero sex, Lena's Mom's illness being more of a story thing than I think anyone expected, Ian being able to sleep with Alison even if he's been rejecting her so far, Stan maybe getting a kiss from Lena and --horrors-- the potential of a real relationship with her. Our expectations for ch11 seem to have run up against Eva's actual storytelling, but that's not on Eva, that's on us. And I include myself in that - I wanted more story progression than we got. But at the end of the day, what's here, I really like.
And I wanted to see Ivy with some guy - any guy - and utterly dominate both his ego and his dick. But during her convo with Ian, where she has all these questions for him, and observations on how he shouldn't trust this person and that person, I realized: yes, Axel and Seymour are the big bads of the game. But what if Lena tore up Axel's pictures and refused to talk with him, what if she rejected Seymour's offer? There still needs to be an antagonist - and that's Puppetmaster Ivy. She's already been showing her true colors with how she treats Holly, and Lena has been steadily given opportunities to fall into her clutches. And now she's starting to get interested, in her self-centered and deliciously evil way, in Ian as well.
I find myself in the middle of things. For what is there, I liked the update quite a lot. Holly's my girl, and two of my saves are solid HollyxIan and solid Holly corruption (ie. everyone but Ian), so I was over the moon with the two IanxHolly scenes, the shower scene, and the pics with Mark - though we should've gotten more than just two. (FWIW, I didn't get the bug in my IanxHolly game where she went with Mark anyway.) The idea of HollyxRobert is a pairing I never even thought of, and now I really want it... so Holly can gain both corruption and confidence by being the too-willing sub Robert wants in bed, and then dumping him because he's a whiny bitch.
In my ChadIan playthrough, where he just wants this to be a harem game, I went with Cherry early on, partly because Alison is way too needy, partly to cockblock Perry from Cherry. (ChadIan scores with Emma and steals Cinders too, he's alpha all the way. No homo.) And I haven't seen more than a couple of posts talking about it, but I have to say I was really impressed with Cherry's social scenes in the art gallery and bar, and the long sex scene with Ian at her apartment. I like the increasing complexity of Cherry as a character, and the sex scene was very hot.
Unlike most people, I think Seymour had a stellar chapter, basically controlling Lena's entire perception of herself by the end of the mirror scene (if you play that way), to the point that Lena honestly wants to ask him to touch her, though it doesn't happen - this time. And even if your Lena rejected him a long time ago (as she does in my LenaxIan route), there's the development I should have seen coming but didn't, where Seymour approaches Ian with the initial overtures of a similar (so far non-sexual) relationship with Ian, strongly hinting that he can be handed the book contest on a platter.
But also, like most people, I felt ch11 to be "short" or at least "shorter" after the heft of ch10. No Axel or Jessica or Nat at all, Jeremy and Emma only for brief exposition stuff, treading water with Cinders (and Wade and Ian, no matter your playthrough), no advance in the MMA tourney or Ian's work for Victor or the status of the café. The barest appearance of Miranda as basically a background character. (In my HollyxIan game, she starts chatting with Holly at the end of Ivy's class, preempting Holly in the shower with Ivy entirely - Ivy and Lena have fun instead.)
One or two people have mentioned that the impression of a shorter update has more to do with the non-sex situations, and I'd agree. My take is: too many characters are in a waiting period. Ian's book is submitted but the contest won't be over until September, Holly's second book is done but not yet published, Emma's community center hasn't done another event yet. Wade's not in another tournament yet, the nebulous MMA thing doesn't seem to be on the horizon, the Wildcats situation has been decided for Cindy but (it's implied) little or nothing has started with that. Billy's big new agency plans haven't come together yet. Point being, there's not enough stuff for the characters to just talk about in ch11.
Also, there's no real group hangout, which is always good for chat. The closest thing we get is the art gallery & bar after, but that's with a very limited number of people. Where's a good game of pool at the Fortress? Where's a pizza hangout with the Cards Against Humanity knockoff game at Perry & Ian's place? Partying at Blazer? A trip to the mall? Lena writes a song in this chapter but there's no group event like a concert or a life-drawing session at the café. And I don't need a retread of those things specifically, but my point is without a real hangout somewhere in the chapter, it feels a lot more like just a string of sex setups and payoffs. And I like those. But I also like the way Eva's characters interact in a non-sexual way, and not really having that makes the chapter feel slim.
Here's the thing. I think most of us were surprised by Eva's structure to this chapter. I'd also say that's on us to adapt to and accept, not a legit way to complain about Eva or the game. We all pretty much expected that, since ch10 was the planned midpoint, what was set up in the first half would start getting resolved in the second. And I'm sure it will, just not yet, and that's thrown us. Instead of starting to consolidate and resolve plotlines (MMA, Wildcats, LenaxHolly, etc.), Eva is letting those be for now, and is laying groundwork for new minor or maybe major plots: Gillian's return, Ivy starting to come onto Ian and perhaps vice versa, Holly expanding from lesbian sex to non-Ian hetero sex, Lena's Mom's illness being more of a story thing than I think anyone expected, Ian being able to sleep with Alison even if he's been rejecting her so far, Stan maybe getting a kiss from Lena and --horrors-- the potential of a real relationship with her. Our expectations for ch11 seem to have run up against Eva's actual storytelling, but that's not on Eva, that's on us. And I include myself in that - I wanted more story progression than we got. But at the end of the day, what's here, I really like.
And I wanted to see Ivy with some guy - any guy - and utterly dominate both his ego and his dick. But during her convo with Ian, where she has all these questions for him, and observations on how he shouldn't trust this person and that person, I realized: yes, Axel and Seymour are the big bads of the game. But what if Lena tore up Axel's pictures and refused to talk with him, what if she rejected Seymour's offer? There still needs to be an antagonist - and that's Puppetmaster Ivy. She's already been showing her true colors with how she treats Holly, and Lena has been steadily given opportunities to fall into her clutches. And now she's starting to get interested, in her self-centered and deliciously evil way, in Ian as well.
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I feel in this particular case having one side blatantly cheating while other being Holly-level earnest would be just a repeat of what already happened to them. Which has it appeal, sure, but i went for these two to genuinely try to make things work between them, yet finding a number of hurdles in their way -- neither got over their former partner, so Lena has her axel_desire and genuinely got impressed with Seymour on top of that, while Ian indulged in his fascination with Cindy (though they broke it off afterwards) and now got tripped by Alison.
Emma's community center has literally just opened in Ch.11 (which, btw was another of these get-together events you say the chapter was lacking) so i don't think this one is particularly realistic complaint :v
Ian pays the signup fee and takes his advanced training in this chapter precisely because the MMA thing is on the horizon and about to happen really soon now.
For bonus points, dominant Ian has different line in that last picture, that makes Lena cum even harder.
The Pikachu thing is Eva's joke, since Lena can only pass the attribute check necessary for that option with cheats enabled.
I feel like that people who ties Gillian to only NTR shit are missing a lot of opportunities. Firstly, we never got background story why she cheated on mc in the first place. When they finally talked with each other, Gillian seem guilty as fuck; she looked like someone who regretted her decision.
Secondly, if she is truly Mike's girlfriend, she could be cucked by Lena and it would be interesting to see her reaction. In another words, she would get the taste of her own medicine lmao. Here we have a lot of interesting scenarios.
If Ian is in relationship with Lena, he gets cucked by Lena and Mike as well. He with Gillian would draw closer sharing the same grief what eventually leads to the restoration of their relationship.
In another case, Gillian develops her own cuckqueen fetish and starts to lose it, or maybe gets vengeful at Lena and starts to sabotage her.
So far, we know for sure that Eva would make netorare route with Gillian for Ian, however, I hope it would not be limited only to it.
Secondly, if she is truly Mike's girlfriend, she could be cucked by Lena and it would be interesting to see her reaction. In another words, she would get the taste of her own medicine lmao. Here we have a lot of interesting scenarios.
If Ian is in relationship with Lena, he gets cucked by Lena and Mike as well. He with Gillian would draw closer sharing the same grief what eventually leads to the restoration of their relationship.
In another case, Gillian develops her own cuckqueen fetish and starts to lose it, or maybe gets vengeful at Lena and starts to sabotage her.
So far, we know for sure that Eva would make netorare route with Gillian for Ian, however, I hope it would not be limited only to it.