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I like drama, but I like betrayal more. If both sides are cheating, it's no longer fucked up. They just deserve each other lol. That's why one party is a morally infallible person while the other is a cheating bastard on my two main runs.
I feel in this particular case having one side blatantly cheating while other being Holly-level earnest would be just a repeat of what already happened to them. Which has it appeal, sure, but i went for these two to genuinely try to make things work between them, yet finding a number of hurdles in their way -- neither got over their former partner, so Lena has her axel_desire and genuinely got impressed with Seymour on top of that, while Ian indulged in his fascination with Cindy (though they broke it off afterwards) and now got tripped by Alison.
 
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Emma's community center hasn't done another event yet
Emma's community center has literally just opened in Ch.11 (which, btw was another of these get-together events you say the chapter was lacking) so i don't think this one is particularly realistic complaint :v

the nebulous MMA thing doesn't seem to be on the horizon
Ian pays the signup fee and takes his advanced training in this chapter precisely because the MMA thing is on the horizon and about to happen really soon now.
 
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I did another playthrough and i discovered new little details i never knew about
For bonus points, dominant Ian has different line in that last picture, that makes Lena cum even harder.

The Pikachu thing is Eva's joke, since Lena can only pass the attribute check necessary for that option with cheats enabled.
 

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I feel like that people who ties Gillian to only NTR shit are missing a lot of opportunities. Firstly, we never got background story why she cheated on mc in the first place. When they finally talked with each other, Gillian seem guilty as fuck; she looked like someone who regretted her decision.

Secondly, if she is truly Mike's girlfriend, she could be cucked by Lena and it would be interesting to see her reaction. In another words, she would get the taste of her own medicine lmao. Here we have a lot of interesting scenarios.

If Ian is in relationship with Lena, he gets cucked by Lena and Mike as well. He with Gillian would draw closer sharing the same grief what eventually leads to the restoration of their relationship.

In another case, Gillian develops her own cuckqueen fetish and starts to lose it, or maybe gets vengeful at Lena and starts to sabotage her.

So far, we know for sure that Eva would make netorare route with Gillian for Ian, however, I hope it would not be limited only to it.
 

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I wouldn't really call it yandere level, but i agree Alison was pushy and out of the line there. Though it's not exactly unexpected, given she made quite a few attempts to catch Ian's interest in the past, and her invitation is obviously another such try, easily avoided by simply not going to her place if Ian acts responsibly. So if Ian does take her up on it, she can easily convince herself he's on board with it, hence the drunk attempt.

In my game, since i play mostly for the drama, i've decided that Ian still reeling over Gillian showing up and his earlier dream, Alison's sudden change of appearance and a night of drinking was enough of excuse to momentarily lose himself. I'm planning for him to honestly try to put a stop to it once he sobers up, but if it turns out to create complications, then all the better :sneaky:
I'm suck for big drama, always have in my top games one save, when everything will burn in the end. But one thing I will get around, I will never cheat on Lena. It's just not fair to her.
And I still don't have a run for Alison, her vibes are just boring. I only considered her as a character for sex content in the early episodes, nothing more.
Cherry is much more interesting.
 
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If Ian is an "average guy" then I reeeeeeeally need to just give up on life.
Ian is very clearly around 8 inches. The international average of white males is 5.9 inches. The idea that he is small comes from men who have never showered at a gym, and watch too much porn.

It annoys me as someone who dwarfs the average, because all these fucking weirdoes, who can only fap when they see a guy with elephantitis of the cock, - the literal "one in a million" freak of nature - want me to believe that being a whole 50% bigger than the average is inadequate.

It's like all these stupid fucking women who think $300k is the average salary for a man.
 
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I think this chapter was really well done by EK. Writing is hard. She had to get in a lot of exposition and set up stuff for later chapters -- not the most exciting or explosive developments, but it's necessary. And so she threw in lots of good sex stuff to make things interesting.

One of the biggest things teased in this chapter was the prospect of the whole gang being invited to Perry's beach house for a weekend. A LOT of potential drama there -- that will probably be the chapter where a bunch of things come to a head. But you have to build up some of these plotlines a little more to get there.
This is the moment Alison was waiting for her whole life. She will murder Lena and take her rightful place as Ian's one and only.
 

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LenaHollyCindyAlisonEmmaCherryMinerva
LenaXNo(t yet)AffairNoNo? open?NoY Robert tells
HollyNo(t yet)XNoNoY (Affair?)Y (Affair?)No
CindyAffairNoXAffairOpen?Open?Open?
AlisonNoNoAffairXNoNoAffair
EmmaNo? Open?Y (Affair?)Open?NoXOpen?Open
CherryNoY (Affair?)Open?NoOpen?XOpen
MinervaY Robert tellsNoOpen?AffairOpenOpenX

The latest chapters ended several relationships if Ian dated multiple girls, so was going through a few combinations to sort and guess future developments. No Ivy and Jessica for now, they haven't even started dating Ian.

Lena: Trinity is on the work, Catfight with Cindy will be epic (especially with Axel), Alison can work if Lena and Ian swing, but Alison backs down if Ian is serious. Emma backs down as well, though she doesn't with a swinging Lena I recall? Cherry backs down. A pure affair can work, but if Ian pursues Minerva romantically, then Lena will likely hear it, specifically from Robert. There is also that chapter 2 "Lena making fun of Minerva" flag.

Holly: Trinity, no Cindy, Alison backs down if Ian doesn't dismiss Holly after they slept with each other. Minerva backs off to spare Holly pain. Emma and Cherry are currently open. Open Holly and Chad Ian may entangle with them, but pure romantic Holly may be cheated with Emma and Cherry. However, Emma is too nice to cuck Holly long term, she ought to adress this issue with Ian.

Cindy: Since the premise is an affair, Ian can be with everyone except Holly. Outing themselves to their friends is a gamechanger, regardless, so much drama is to be expected.

Alison: Chad Ian can have her aside other girls, but a romantically inclined Ian can't have feelings for other girls, or she quits. Only Cindy and Minerva are fair game, but only because she doesn't know about these two in particular.

Emma: Free spirited and FwB currently, she only backs down if he is serious with Lena and is only unavailable if Ian wants to have Alison stay. She needs to adress this with Ian if he dates other girls long-term.

Cherry: Doesn't work with Lena and Alison to avoid drama, but doesn't know about the other girls. Needs to properly date Ian in the first place, being seen with Axel bodes ill as well.

Minerva: Similar to Cindy, since their relationship is an affair to begin with. Holly is off the table and Lena may interfer long-term. Ambiguous relationship (do they keep cheating until forever? Would their leave their respective partners?)
LenaHollyCindyAlisonEmmaCherryMinerva
Lenastill WiPCheating / FBCheating / FBNO / FBNO?Cheating / FB
HollyNOCheating / FBYesYesNO
CindyCheating / FBYesYesYes
AlisonNow possible?NOYes
EmmaYesYes
CherryYes
Minerva

FB= Fuckbuddies

Lena/Holly/Ian is a tangled mess I'm not even getting into.
Lena/Cindy is getting adressed sooner or later, considering Ivy and Axels schemes.
Lena/Alison with open relationship still works? I never did it myself, Alison usually broke up. More importantly, we can now cheat on Lena officially with her.
Lena/Emma is just as in chapter 10. Lena "hangs out" with Emma, so a FB/threesome is on the way.
Lena/Cherry apparantly can work with open relationship, I could never made it happen, but now Ian can drop Lena to focus on Cherry? A good move, because both characters hing on not wanting to with each others, so its inconsistent that they allow Ian to fuck them both.
Lena/Minerva works as just FB, but faithfull Lena likely gets informed by Robert.

Holly/Allison may work if Ian casually dates both (my Alison drops him in chapter 8), but as with Lena, Alison can now destroy Ian/Holly.
Wonder if Ian can get both Holly and Cindy one day. If Chad Ian dates Cindy and Holly is on slut path, she may have enough courage to ask him again. Dropping him just because he didn't had time for the book event is giving up too fast.
Still possible to date Holly while dating Emma and Cherry(?), really wonde rhow long Holly will put up with that or if Slut Holly accepts it. Holly/Minerva was ended in chapter 10 and could only get ressurected if Ian corrupts Minerva enough and if corrupted Holly tries a second time to get Ians attention.

Cindy/Alison still works, but she can already lose relationship points with Ian and Alison likely won't accept it when they finally commit. Otherwise, the Cindy path is shut off from most woman not named Lena.

Alison/Emma was blocked, now she can admit her jealousy and likely try again. Its not like Ian and Emma are commiting any time soon, enough time for Alison to give it another go.
Alison/Cherry is still blocked. Cherry is one of the few flags that prevent Alison from seducing Ian. Maybe she would feel more guilty if she betrays her coworker than Lena and Holly, girls she doesn't know personally.

Emma is still loose with almost anyone. Man, if Ian can't get married to her, at least let him be married to her ass to counter Lenas obsession with Jeremys dick.
 

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Does anyone know all the exhibitionism moments in the game so far? I haven't encountered any in my playthrough but it has the exhibitionism tag unless that's just an f95zone thing.
 

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Does anyone know all the exhibitionism moments in the game so far? I haven't encountered any in my playthrough but it has the exhibitionism tag unless that's just an f95zone thing.
Lena can fuck someone and Stan (good relationship, hire as a photographer) stands at the door and watches. Before remaster, he was masturbating to it.
Ian and Lena can fuck in the park (relationship, lust points or Ian doesn't dare to) and Ian notices a stalker. If Lena admitted to having a exhibitionism fetish, Ian should inform her that they are watched for some cream on top.
 
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Does anybody know conditions for the threesome Ian/Mike+Lena+Louise? I got it one time and didn't another.
After Ivy's birthday Lena has option to talk about this with Ian and suggest they could try it. If Lena/Ian don't have open relationship this might require a will point (or sufficiently high lust) iirc. So if your Lena has no willpoint to spend maybe the option doesn't show up, idk.
 
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