camube

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I'm really out of step with the main fandom for Eva Kiss games I think, they'd be basically perfect for me if it wasn't for all the cheating kink built in.
I didn't even know cucking was an option. Or Minerva was an option.

To some degree, you can play this game however you want, including making the 2 MCs not have any sex lol
 
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It's to me that Lena likes Holly as person and even when you're on Lena X Holly solo route. She talks about how great Holly makes her feel in terms of talking to her and kissing her. Compare that to Louise who she sees as friend she fucks when she's bored or horny really.

The funny thing is Lena do not care about how Louise feel about her fooling around with Holly. Holly knows about Lena and Louise I can see this opening up a threesome between them in the future which I am down with.

I feel like when Lena or Holly ask for a relationship Lena will quickly break things off with Louise in a heart beat.
Yeah, Louise is the Robert of females :cautious::Kappa:
And with respect to the female characters, you have complete control. You can make them the equivalent of nuns if you like.
Side note @ control, trying to babysit every single detail to stop Alison from hoeing around has to be the least enjoyable path I've played in this game. You can't miss a single text message, phone call, choice with her, or she goes and sleeps with Jeremy and unless I ran into a bug(I think it was v10.5) I picked every pro Alison option ouside of saying I love her and the bish had the audacity to propose a threesome with Jeremy with the only outcome being her getting pissy that Ian doesn't even entertain that idea.

With now being a blonde, her only redeeming quality is gone, the streets can have her! :Kappa:
 
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We can write it off forever as a player, Lena as a character needs money.
At least some version of Lena that wants to keep sending money to her parent and running out of options.
No, I'm sorry but even in-character as Lena, Seymore was not a good way to make money. The man was megalomaniacal to the point of obvious danger; he literally considers himself the rightful master of all he surveys. Stay as far away from someone like that as possible.
 

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No, I'm sorry but even in-character as Lena, Seymore was not a good way to make money.
It's just about making money.
It's not about a good or bad way to make money.

I'm saying someone that is in dire need of money doesn't have the leeway to choose. To some people, choice are a luxury.
Life of a middle class person is really not the same with the life of a struggling person.

Even prior to dinner, Seymour is already written in the game as lecherous since the first Art Gallery meet.
But Lena has little option to make money.

When someone is in a position of really needing money, they take what they can get.
And what Lena can get at the time is Seymour's offer.

Since behind the scene he orchestrated in such a way that Lena would lose a part of her income, which Lena never know if she is relatively neutral to Seymour's offers.

As much as Lena likes writing songs, Lena herself does not have as strong of a belief that she can make money off of music compared to Ian's Author route. This was shown after the sex scenes in Ch 7 when she asked Ian how does he have the strength to keep pushing the Author route.

Ian has relatively more choice, Lena has relatively fewer.
Unlike Ian with his dad's money as a fallback option, Lena doesn't have that.

A version of Lena "needs" to send money to her family.
So her option if she wants to avoid Seymour is to not send money to her parents. Or steal from Ed. Or do Onlyfans.

Eva also write it in such a way that Lena can draw the line at Chapter 11 and quit.
I think it's really great that Eva is offering that line in the sand exit for a dutiful-to-her-parents Lena in Ch 11 with regards to Seymour.

Ch 11 Lena has Perry the mayor son as a new option.
She also has Emma as a new band mate as another option.

Early chapter Lena that got invited to dinner with Seymour does not yet have those options. It's either Onlyfans or Seymour dinner, or both.
 

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It's still baffling to me that the 3-some we got between Ian and Lena was with Louis.
Confirming that Louise's only existence in game is for being a sex doll for Lena.

EDIT: but most feasible option too as Louise will go along with Lena's request and Lena can easily justify her "If I'm fucking girls it's not cheating! RIGHT?" as Ian would fuck her too. Thus, satisfying Lena's guilt to some extent.
 
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Confirming that Louise's only existence in game is for being a sex doll for Lena.
Jere
EDIT: but most feasible option too as Louise will go along with Lena's request and Lena can easily justify her "If I'm fucking girls it's not cheating! RIGHT?" as Ian would fuck her too. Thus, satisfying Lena's guilt to some extent.
But when do we get Ian fucking dudes and him justifying it as "It's not cheating since I'm fucking dudes"? Jeremy needs to get fucked preferably up his ass.
 

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I never get why people think Seymour is a good person.

Putting aside the socialist arguments for a second, did you guys forget that Seymour has been sabotaging Lena's means of income and career ever since he met her, and then attempted to blackmail her just so he can "OWN" her?
Seymour is definitely the good guy in this game.
While Ed and Molly use Lena, pay her like she is a child in China, manipulate her by making her do a drawing session for free, Seymour pays very well for a few hours of work not including bonuses, the neckless and the undergarments.
Also, Ed and Molly take advantage of a mentally crippled person named Perry and make him work for free. These two scumbags are considered to be "good people".

Seymour is a known philanthropist and helps people he dont know, he supports local artists like Axel and Ian, Pays for their drinks at The Shine, trying to help Ian and making him a wonderful offer and goes to see Lena plays and sings. Despite being assaulted with a beer by some fat ass communist, he is not pressing charges and forgives the misguided commie.
Also behind the scenes Seymour is trying to modernize this shit little town despite the noisy plebs.
 

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Seymour is definitely the good guy in this game.
While Ed and Molly use Lena, pay her like she is a child in China, manipulate her by making her do a drawing session for free, Seymour pays very well for a few hours of work not including bonuses, the neckless and the undergarments.
Also, Ed and Molly take advantage of a mentally crippled person named Perry and make him work for free. These two scumbags are considered to be "good people".

Seymour is a known philanthropist and helps people he dont know, he supports local artists like Axel and Ian, Pays for their drinks at The Shine, trying to help Ian and making him a wonderful offer and goes to see Lena plays and sings. Despite being assaulted with a beer by some fat ass communist, he is not pressing charges and forgives the misguided commie.
Also behind the scenes Seymour is trying to modernize this shit little town despite the noisy plebs.
It's a good thing that Seymour is a fictional character otherwise it would be quite difficult for you to type all this shit with his cock so far down your throat.
 

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Seymour is definitely the good guy in this game.
While Ed and Molly use Lena, pay her like she is a child in China, manipulate her by making her do a drawing session for free, Seymour pays very well for a few hours of work not including bonuses, the neckless and the undergarments.
Also, Ed and Molly take advantage of a mentally crippled person named Perry and make him work for free. These two scumbags are considered to be "good people".

Seymour is a known philanthropist and helps people he dont know, he supports local artists like Axel and Ian, Pays for their drinks at The Shine, trying to help Ian and making him a wonderful offer and goes to see Lena plays and sings. Despite being assaulted with a beer by some fat ass communist, he is not pressing charges and forgives the misguided commie.
Also behind the scenes Seymour is trying to modernize this shit little town despite the noisy plebs.
If you really think about it, Seymour is the real victim in this story. He pays up the ass not to fuck a girl that many other men and women fuck for free.
 

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Oh, I am sure Seymour will lay his depraved hands onto Lena sooner or later but so far he's a real man of honor. He surely won't touch Lena if she doesn't ask for it. Oh, and she will ask! She will even beg for it. She already squirts like a fountain just thinking about that, doesn't she?
 
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It's probably worth to keep on mind that we, as the player, completely lack the part of the picture that is what Lena has actually seen. We don't know how Cherry has acted towards her, and how it affected her current judgment of the situation and opinion about Cherry. In other words, while the player might think they know better than Lena, they're in reality just as uninformed about the situation overall as she is.
Yeah, absolutely, we're still missing a lot of information. All the more reason to suspect there's some more turn of events left on that path.

I was surprised when Cherry told Ian (and Perry?) her side of it in the wake of the surprise meeting between Cherry and Lena. Considering Axel's manipulative ways, I had expected her to not be fully aware of the implications of what she did with Axel. And then it turned out she knew more or less exactly what she was doing to Lena. But that conversation also implies that Cherry isn't underplaying her blame for what happened—even if Ian gives her a chance to do so by choosing the "I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose" option. I think that's a decent indication that we can trust Cherry's information about all of this—even if it's obviously only one side of the story.
 
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