VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Horker14]

Also, Ed and Molly take advantage of a mentally crippled person named Perry and make him work for free. These two scumbags are considered to be "good people".

In my last game they actually wanted to hire him. I also tried to help him to score with Cherry but don't remember how that went.

 

[ffive]

Really? Because I was the opposite. I had a relatively open mind about Seymore prior to the first dinner. But one dose of his self-aggrandizing, psuedophilosophical bullshit was all it took to write him off forever. The man was obviously scum, and the less Lena (or anyone else I cared about) had to do with him the better.

I'd agree with camube that the voluntary working with Seymour is quite "believable" -- if Lena forms a positive first impression of him (which is easy enough, she kind of expresses it by default) i can vey well see her getting swept up by Seymour's charisma and rhetoric, combined with the "high class" treatment she receives (particularly if it's high poshLena who is more responsive to displays of wealth etc).

The player might roll their eyes at Nietzche being touted as the top dog of philosophy, but Lena, while potentially intelligent, is still a fairly regular person, one who can easily buy into this mindset (similar how many people come to believe Machiavelli was a political genius because he's such edgelord about it) and the idea she's interacting with top-class intellectual, and strive to match/impress him rather than laugh straight in his face.

 

[camube]

Lena who is sleeping with Mike doesn't ponder what she's doing much, either.

I thnk Lena addressed this once in the Ch 8 or ch 9 scene where her monologue said "fuck morals fuck the world" cuz she's too stressed out

 

[ffive]

She won't bcz apparently she did this to purify the guilty she was feeling of cheating on Ian with her girlfriends. She may reveal this in future that she has been screwing her girlfriends but it may be way down the line and Ian won't react as strong as now if she told him(before her threesome with Louise and Ian).

I mean acknowledge not in the sense of telling Ian (i very much doubt she'll do that) but along the lines of internal monologue that this situation is similar, and maybe making her wonder if Axel felt similar to how she did with her threesome, i.e. wanting to "normalize" the earlier cheating and thinking such action would make up for it, too.

 

[ffive]

I thnk Lena addressed this once in the Ch 8 or ch 9 scene where her monologue said "fuck morals fuck the world" cuz she's too stressed out

Right, but that's as you note it, in a highly stressed moment. Lena never considers this situation with a clear head, when she isn't in the middle of fucking or all hot and bothered and wanting to fuck ASAP.

 

[fatpussy123]

She won't bcz apparently she did this to purify the guilty she was feeling of cheating on Ian with her girlfriends. She may reveal this in future that she has been screwing her girlfriends but it may be way down the line and Ian won't react as strong as now if she told him(before her threesome with Louise and Ian).

I wonder how Eva will handle that confession. I think it will be an automatic interaction similar to how Ian always comes clean about kissing Holly. Lena automatically tells Ian and then we decide how Ian reacts, whether it's no reaction, telling her to break it off, telling her only keep her around for threesomes, or him breaking up with Lena. To me it makes sense for Eva Kiss to get this out of the way considering Lena isn't flagged with the cheating variable for her relationship with Louise, so I don't see a prolonged cheating route with her.

 

[| Vee |]

I mean acknowledge not in the sense of telling Ian (i very much doubt she'll do that) but along the lines of internal monologue that this situation is similar, and maybe making her wonder if Axel felt similar to how she did with her threesome, i.e. wanting to "normalize" the earlier cheating and thinking such action would make up for it, too.

I think she will compare/question herself IF she is willing to go and talk to Cherry/forgive her bcz their talk will open both of them eyes but other than that she will just keep this hidden for long and will have monologues like cheating is bad etc. BUT won't compare herself to Axel or such.

 

[camube]

I'd agree with camube that the voluntary working with Seymour is quite "believable" -- if Lena forms a positive first impression of him (which is easy enough, she kind of expresses it by default) i can vey well see her getting swept up by Seymour's charisma and rhetoric, combined with the "high class" treatment she receives (particularly if it's high poshLena who is more responsive to displays of wealth etc).

The player might roll their eyes at Nietzche being touted as the top dog of philosophy, but Lena, while potentially intelligent, is still a fairly regular person, one who can easily buy into this mindset (similar how many people come to believe Machiavelli was a political genius because he's such edgelord about it) and the idea she's interacting with top-class intellectual, and strive to match/impress him rather than laugh straight in his face.

yeah Lena doesn't have to like Seymour either, she just have to be neutral.
And Eva giving a break-off point in Ch 11 on whether or not Lena would voluntarily dive deeper into becoming Seymour's muse or end it right there after his second advance with the toy is great storytelling.

 

[| Vee |]

I wonder how Eva will handle that confession. I think it will be an automatic interaction similar to how Ian always comes clean about kissing Holly. Lena automatically tells Ian and then we decide how Ian reacts, whether it's no reaction, telling her to break it off, telling her only keep her around for threesomes, or him breaking up with Lena. To me it makes sense for Eva Kiss to get this out of the way considering Lena isn't flagged with the cheating variable for her relationship with Louise, so I don't see a prolonged cheating route with her.

She may reveal to Ian if it is only in heat of moment(during an intake of drugs or a highly depraved/sexual scene) or Louise may reveal as Louise calls Lena Mistress in my Playthrough when Ian was fucking Louise. Don't know why Ian didn't catch that.

 

[Hung460]

Still don't understand why android is at the 10.3 update and not at chat 11 beta. It's already out everywhere else

 

[camube]

I'm kinda interested if Lena will acknowledge this similarity at some points and has some thoughts on it, although the odds for that are likely low. Lena who is sleeping with Mike doesn't ponder what she's doing much, either.

speaking of something i'm interested in, I want to know asap what Billy's modelling agency would look like.
Considering this is an Adult game, I feel like the new modelling agency would be a cover for porn studio instead of actual modelling.

If that's where it goes, I want to know how would Ivy react to that situation.

 

[ffive]

Louise may reveal as Louise calls Lena Mistress in my Playthrough when Ian was fucking Louise. Don't know why Ian didn't catch that.

Let's be honest, all of Ian's brains were buried in Louise's pussy at that moment.

 

[fatpussy123]

She may reveal to Ian if it is only in heat of moment(during an intake of drugs or a highly depraved/sexual scene) or Louise may reveal as Louise calls Lena Mistress in my Playthrough when Ian was fucking Louise. Don't know why Ian didn't catch that.

Yeah that happened on my playthrough too. I think in the moment he was too preoccupied to care, but I reckon he will ask Lena about it after, maybe even in the epilogue. If Lena isn't Louise's mistress, maybe Ian will just ask Lena how she convinced Louise to do it and that will lead into a confession.

 

[| Vee |]

I reckon he will ask Lena about it after, maybe even in the epilogue. If Lena isn't Louise's mistress, maybe Ian will just ask Lena how she convinced Louise to do it and that will lead into a confession.

YES! I am waiting for this one. Will be interesting to see how Lena will retract on this one.

 

[fatpussy123]

YES! I am waiting for this one. Will be interesting to see how Lena will retract on this one.

On my version of this route Ian is dominant towards Lena, who is obviously dominant over Louise. So I hope there will be an outcome where Lena hands over the reigns for Louise over to Ian. Lena may be the mistress, but Ian is the master.

 

[| Vee |]

On my version of this route Ian is dominant towards Lena, who is obviously dominant over Louise. So I hope there will be an outcome where Lena hands over the reigns for Louise over to Ian. Lena may be the mistress, but Ian is the master.

Same here my main has this one. I am trying to take Ian by hand to the peak of human race and at the end dominating tournament.

 

[DeemLeem12]

Of all the characters in the gallery, I think Marcel, Holly, and Emma are the only decent ones. All the others are can be jackasses or do some cringe stuff. HollyxMarcel might have a fulfilling relationship after all.

 

[ffive]

Something mildly interesting about Seymour, i think: he is, in a way, sort of "evolved Ian" -- where Ian is striving to become a writer, and is someone who makes Lena feel "comfortable and fuzzy", Seymour actually had achieved success as a writer (and then leveraged his position to establish successful publishing house followed by getting in real estate business etc) and rather than comfortable and fuzzy he makes Lena connect with and embrace her "inner hedonist".

 

[| Vee |]

Something mildly interesting about Seymour, i think: he is, in a way, sort of "evolved Ian" -- where Ian is striving to become a writer, and is someone who makes Lena feel "comfortable and fuzzy", Seymour actually had achieved success as a writer (and then leveraged his position to establish successful publishing house followed by getting in real estate business etc) and rather than comfortable and fuzzy he makes Lena connect with and embrace her "inner hedonist".

You just hit nail on the head. As I mentioned before Ian and Seymour's interaction in CH11 Ian can get 4 relationship points with Seymour and depending on how conversation goes Seymour may take Ian under his wing cause Ian needs someone who can mentor him how this all power works, how to reach where Seymour is, how to get things done etc.

In upcoming chapters I believe Seymour is going to need someone(Ian) close to him who after his death can take care of his established wealth and power(remember no child and family ). He may chose Ian as his vessel/heir. Obviously he is not going to hand Ian all this but first Condition Ian to someone power who can handle and maintain.

Whether or not Seymour has is passing his wealth, power to Ian, he is going to take Ian under his wing it's just a matter of time.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Whether or not Seymour has is passing his wealth, power to Ian, he is going to take Ian under his wing it's just a matter of time.

I hope that he will, Ian needs a competent mentor.