VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[dontcarewhateverno]

Is it really forced though?. I only played the epilogue with one of my saves, but I didn't encounter any BBC or cuck content. I had to watch the scenes in the gallery. It's not my cup of tea, specially the cuck part, but I don't see what's wrong with the content being there for those who might enjoy it. Specially when you have to make a conscious effort with your choices to be able to get that content at all.

It is a bit forced. And I'm saying this as someone who wanted more crude fetish content. Unlike most opinions, imo it's more forced from the standpoint of Marcel's actions than Lena's. There were little to no signs of interest towards Lena at all from Marcel in earlier chapters. Or that he'd be the sort of character to do the sort of actions he does in the epilogue. Like that first club scene way back in the first 6 chapters or so where Lena can come to the club in a super-slutty outfit. Seeing that outfit in Lena's room and remembering the bouncer from Ian's previous outing there, I was 100% anticipating an ass-slap, a crude comment, or even just a lustful, intimidating stare once she showed up out front. But nope. Nothing. All business and pretty respectable. Next outing he plays cute and seems generally more interested in the modestly dressed Holly and what she does for a living. Like 'hmm ...maybe he's got some depth there?'

Then the recent poll happens and suddenly... Chapter 11 Epilogue: "Im yo BBC gorilla. Stroke my bamboo shoot, bitch".

Not that I was an advocate for the "oh, he's just a big teddy bear after all" angle like some people were pushing. (That idea came off to me as a pretty cringey eye-rolling cliche too). There just really wasn't any foreshadowing in the turn, with an abrupt change to fetish content.

I'm kind of beyond the point of caring much by now though, with the confirmation that Eva can probably only last a couple more years on this game, tops. 5 years really is quite a long development time for one person on a single project.

 

[desmosome]

I don't see this happening. Emma is not the type of woman Seymour target. In his narcissistic mind, what he is doing and providing to Lena is a privilege, a opportunity. Something that he surely doesn't wanna give to Emma.
But i can see he using Lena to destroy Emma's life and social fights against the take over of the small business of Baluart. Not taking her as he wants takes Lena.

There are multiple times where Lena can tell Emma that Seymour isn't that bad. And convincing her to be more femininee could also be something in the direction of changing Emma from her usual ideals.

It could be Lena doing stuff on her own to convince Emma that Capitalism is good and that Seymour is a good patron, or maybe he might tell Lena to make her friend more reasonable. Either way, I'm thinking there will be an Ending outcome where Emma + Lena are under Seymour's thumb. Sort of like how Nat can become Arthur's bitch in the ending even though Nat x Arthur wasn't really a big part of the story.

 

[ffive]

Tell me an instance where Axel has been truthful? I'll wait.

That's the thing -- the way things are set up, what he says *can* be true for "faithful" Cindy routes, which means the game can have these routes without any contradiction with what was presented so far. It's not like Axel is obliged to lie 100% of the time.

 

[TinFoilHat19]

Is this game have animations? It looks good.

 

[ffive]

There just really wasn't any foreshadowing in the turn, with a pretty abrupt change to fetish content.

While true, I chalk this up mostly to update being an alpha, which is basically a rough draft. There's beta and final revisions to polish the writing/pacing etc. For this matter, this very update can be example of such ongoing polish, as it includes quite a few fixes to earlier parts of Ch.11. I'd expect the Epilogue to undergo similar treatment.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Incidentally, there's a minor addition to Ch.11 proper, that those who only played the epilogue might've missed: Seymour actually puts his foot down and orders Lena to shut down her Stalkfap (like it was expected he would) if she's working with him.

Wow. The one based thing I've ever heard him do. I guess Seymour isn't all bad. (Yeah. Yeah. I know. He did it for all the wrong reasons).

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

While true, I chalk this up mostly to update being an alpha, which is basically a rough draft. There's beta and final revisions to polish the writing/pacing etc. For this matter, this very update can be example of such ongoing polish, as it includes quite a few fixes to earlier parts of Ch.11. I'd expect the Epilogue to undergo similar treatment.

I'm not so sure at this point, really. On some other items in the build.... sure, as I've mentioned myself. But for these sort of situations, I think we're beyond the point of fine details and at the point of "let's get this shit dooone". True proper foreshadowing here would mean retconning Marcel appearances from previous chapters imo and I definitely don't see that happening.

 

[Kekekerkek]

Threesomes are currently Lena x Jeremy x Louise, Ian x Alison x Jeremy and Lena x Ian/Mike x Louise.
So currently, Louise and Jeremy are the easiest to convince.

so you can't share lena with another man right now? i've heard emma can do it with jeremy too?

 

[Dom Toretto]

Can we get the android update link please

 

[Xupuzulla]

It is a bit forced. And I'm saying this as someone who wanted more fetish content. Unlike most opinions, imo it's more forced from the standpoint of Marcel's actions than Lena's. There were little to no signs of interest towards Lena at all from Marcel in earlier chapters. Or that he'd be the sort of character to do the sort of actions he does in the epilogue. Like that first club scene way back in the first 6 chapters or so where Lena can come to the club in a super-slutty outfit. Seeing that outfit in Lena's room and remembering the bouncer from Ian's previous outing there, I was 100% participating an ass-slap, a crude comment, or even just a lustful, intimidating stare once she showed up out front. But nope. Nothing. All business and pretty respectable. Next outing he plays cute and seems generally more interested in the modestly dressed Holly and what she does for a living. Like 'hmm ...maybe he's got some depth there?'

Then the recent poll happens and suddenly... Chapter 11 Epilogue: "Im yo BBC gorilla. Stroke my bamboo shoot, bitch".

Not that I was an advocate for the "oh, he's just a big teddy bear after all" angle like some people were pushing. (That idea came off to me as a pretty cringey eye-rolling cliche too). There just really wasn't any foreshadowing in the turn, with an abrupt change to fetish content.

I'm kind of beyond the point of caring much by now though, with the confirmation that Eva can probably only last a couple more years on this game, tops. 5 years really is quite a long development time for one person on a single project.

Can you blame Evakiss?
All that time writing and pushing male characters and they get beat by the meme BBC bouncer in the polls.
Why stick to your "vision" if the people who pay your bills want only one specific thing?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

so you can't share lena with another man right now? i've heard emma can do it with jeremy too?

You can do it on the Alison route if Ian's got high enough lust stats. No Lena yet, though of course that's coming.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Can you blame Evakiss?
All that time writing and pushing male characters and they get beat by the meme BBC bouncer in the polls.
Why stick to your "vision" if the people who pay your bills want only one specific thing?

I didn't really blame her at all in the post, shown from my aside at the end. I understand the situation at this point, tbh. Though I think it's more about a "les get this shii dooone" (while pissing off as few patrons as possible) dash to the finish by now - which is still a bit of a marathon, to be sure - than it is mere audience catering alone. I'd go mad spending more than 5.5 years on one project too if in her position (admittedly an envious position though, since it beats the hell out of real work). Life's too short when you've got a bunch of other creative projects in your head and the means to fulfill them, the "means" in large part through funding from this game. Would I, as the player, rather wait longer and have as smooth a game as possible? Sure. But it's not the end of the world for me. It's her life, not mine.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

So it's pretty obvious that Mike is Gillian's BF, and that Jeremy has known about that for way longer than he pretends to, right?

God I really hope Ian gets to beat the shit out of Mike in front of Gillian.

Bash shit out of both is my preference.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I didn't really blame her at all in the post, shown from my aside at the end. I understand the situation at this point, tbh. Though I think it's more about a "les get this shii dooone" (while pissing off as few patrons as possible) dash to the finish by now - which is still a bit of a marathon, to be sure - than it is mere audience catering alone. I'd go mad spending more than 5.5 years on one project too if in her position (admittedly an envious position though, since it beats the hell out of real work). Life's too short when you've got a bunch of other creative projects in your head and the means to fulfill them, the "means" in large part through funding from this game. Would I, as the player, rather wait longer and have as smooth a game as possible? Sure. But it's not the end of the world for me. It's her life, not mine.

Or maybe I stand corrected: "It's impossible to say at this point, between 16 and 20, but might be more".

So in the end, it might all depend on how successful the Steam launch is and how much cash-flow she has coming in from that. May not be a rush after all, depending. Though more cash could surely mean quicker updates too.

 

[zoomzoomzoom]

You know what? I think I'll change my opinion on Jeremy. Ian is TOO SOFT on him. Ian helped him bag big ass Emma and he still had no decency to give Ian a heads up on Gillian.

Motherfucker also needed Ian AND Lena's help just to get it on with Ivy. Bro is all dick with no fucking game. Dude can't even last a decent time in bed. He is so lucky that Lena is such a size queen.


Let Ian punch people again!

 

[raja28]

Mac link

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

So it's pretty obvious that Mike is Gillian's BF, and that Jeremy has known about that for way longer than he pretends to, right?

God I really hope Ian gets to beat the shit out of Mike in front of Gillian.

Cock blocking him from ivy is more hurtful than any punch that ian throws at him

 

[FearlessGecko1]

I have to say that at this point in the game I'm a bit disappointed with ORS. Don't get me wrong this I won't throw hate, GGGB is my all time favorite AVN, and perhaps I was over hyped for ORS. When we got a second perspective from the story (and I'm talking about Ian's story) I thought that some of the themes from GGGB would be implemented in it's own way of course. For example the corruption theme, I really praised the use of drugs on GGGB as a corrupting force, whether through lowering the users inhibition or for it's addiction effect. It made sense that a drugged user would be more slutty or resort to sluttier behavior. However in Ian's storyline I haven't sensed (or perhaps gone through a playthrough) that he was being corrupted and changing his personality. I saw Ivy as the main goal of "Ian's" corruption, a girl who is an object of desire but also has a completely different set of morals and priorities as opposed to Ian. I don't think Cindy cheating with Ian means he has changed or he's being corrupted as it has been established that wade is a bad boyfriend (if you see netori as some sort of corruption in this case)
All of this was to say that I was hoping for a more "marked progression" with Ian. Maybe in his quest to beat Jeremy both physically and sexually he turns to PED's or steroids to give him that extra edge, which means he gains a lot of muscle changing his appearance, finally beating Jeremy in a tournament or fight and in the process making himself more appealing to Ivy. However this decision means he has an altered state of mind with "roid rage" or mood swings and also impacts his sexual drive whether with a higher libido or erectile dysfunction. Maybe he can win back a Slutty Lena. This would also of course have an impact in his work either negating his goal of becoming a great writer or just being stuck in his job as a reviewer.
I'm just throwing that out there since the beginning I thought that Ian x Ivy was going to be more prominent in Ian's story.

 

[WatsonJohn]

Kinda wish new girl was the design for Lena from the start now.
She's hotter than Lena

Nah. She looks like the kind of girls I keep seeing in the streets at night just standing and talking to strangers as I go home. Definitely not hotter than Lena, not even close. If it were the case that the original design for the FMC is the new girl, and the new girl uses Lena's model then people will voice out how they want Lena's model be the original instead.

 

[NikzRit]

When this game will be end? Somebody know?